Lifelong Republican Attorney's SWORN Affidavit That ROVE IN CHARGE Of DOJ Firing

[kpete]

It is a curious process by which some questions of dubious import get pressed endlessly and others, which matter far more, are entirely ignored. I think we have one of these cases here. And if you'll indulge me I'd like a moment to explain what I mean.

A lifelong Republican attorney from Alabama, Dana Jill Simpson, has come forward and sworn out an affidavit claiming that in 2002 a close associate of Karl Rove claimed that Rove had told him that he'd gotten the Department of Justice to investigate then-Alabama Governor Don Siegelman (D) and that he was sure the investigation would eventually take Siegelman out of politics. Is the claim true? Was Rove successfully using the DOJ to pursue politics by other means as far back as 2002?



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http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/docs/rove-affidavit/
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http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/014525.php

[MadMaddie]

1. So the question has to be asked...can Rove be arrested for this?

[tom_paine]

16. Rove, Gonzales & Cheney already have more than enough evidence to arrest them

That is clearly not the problem. The problem is finding enough people of spine and principle in these degenerate times to risk their lives and the lives of their families (not to mention any potential victims f a Bush-orchestrated nuclear 9/11 (God Forbid) which becomes more likely the closer any Royal Bushies come to going to jail.

[MiniMe]

22. Only if the Justice Department pursues it

Which seems unlikely

[Missy Vixen]

2. Proud to be the first R

This is explosive.

Julie

[Gabi Hayes]

4. and will be ignored, except for the usual places. there are more important

topics for the M$M to cover, like the conditions of Ms. Hilton's house arrest

hope I'm wrong, of course, but how many stories like this have surfaced, only to be flushed down the memory hole?

[malaise]

6. Send it to KO

and the rest of MSM.

[Gabi Hayes]

9. I'm thinking he already has it, but that's not a bad idea. not that his

coverage of the caging story has had any effect on the other "journalists" out there, including his own parent company

can you imagine the outcry if it had been reported that Clintonistas had pulled BS like this?

just remember that they ginnned up Whitewater out of NOTHING (the Clinton's were described as the VICTIMS of Hale, McDougal, etal, in the first Whitewater trial, which fact was ignored completely in the M$M), and kept it going until Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, and Monica crawled out of their respective rocks with the help of Brock, Isikoff, Starr, and his elves

now I'm REALLY pissed!

[grasswire]

11. yeah, the difference was Richard Mellon Scaife's money...

....that funded the VRWC. That's the difference between the spotlight on Bill Clinton and the chirping of crickets re: the Bush scandals.

[Gabi Hayes]

14. ahhh....the good old days: Ted Olson, David Bossie, the Arkansas Project.

back when things were so terrible. gas was, what, a dollar and a quarter a gallon?

only a quarter of the Muslims on earth wanted us dead?

we still had most of the bill of rights?

the supreme court consisted of only a minority of raving fascists?

what am I leaving out?

and whatever happened to Gene Lyons?

[grasswire]

17. all those freaks appeared from nowhere

John Fund, Kelly Ann Fitzpatrick (she married an elf later), the Toensing-diGenovas, Todd somebody, Barbara Comstock....I hope someone has this all written down. Accessories to a crime.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

3. Every Day There Is Something New In This. At Some Point Things Have To Just Bust Wide Open.

Let's hope things do.

Thanks for the constant updates on stuff like this Kpete. K&R.

[sutz12]

5. If only we could crowbar this info into the M$M.... nt

[L. Coyote]

10. This is a TIME magazine story! They broke it. Expect a Culture of Corruption cover

anyday that resembles a wanted poster.

Rove Linked to Prosecution of Ex-Alabama Governor
By ADAM ZAGORIN/WASHINGTON
Friday, Jun. 01, 2007
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1627427,00.html?xid=rss-nation

In the rough and tumble of Alabama politics, the scramble for power is often a blood sport. At the moment, the state's former Democratic governor, Don Siegelman, stands convicted of bribery and conspiracy charges and faces a sentence of up to 30 years in prison. Siegelman has long claimed that his prosecution was driven by politically motivated, Republican-appointed U.S. attorneys.

Now Karl Rove, the President's top political strategist, has been implicated in the controversy. A long time Republican lawyer in Alabama swears she heard a top G.O.P. operative in the state say that Rove "had spoken with the Department of Justice" about "pursuing" Siegelman, with help from two of Alabama's U.S. attorneys. ..............

[malaise]

20. Great news n/t

[L. Coyote]

7. Abramoff and Kark Rove Linked to Prosecution of Ex-Alabama Governor and Campaign Finances

Which of the USAs was fired? I thought both AL USAs presumedly did Rove's bidding in this matter??

Abramoff and Kark Rove Linked to Prosecution of Ex-Alabama Governor and Campaign Finances
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1023111

[IChing]

8. I hope this as big as I think it is

the Hatch Act, the Ricco Act have been broken from
what I understand of the law.

But no blow job.

[L. Coyote]

12. NOT: The SWORN Affidavit DOES NOT SAY that.

Not that "ROVE IN CHARGE Of DOJ Firing" but only that someone said they talked to Rove. Rove is a hearsay player in the affidavit.

[gordianot]

13. How Rove might be arrested? No way he is above the law.

No crime is too outrageous, no lie to great, slander, libel, theft, and treason. The fact he is still in Government is proof that the Republic has succumbed and the Constitution is irrelevant.

[L. Coyote]

15. First, he must be charged with a crime. That requires evidence, and a prosecutor.

Where is the evidence? In the United States, a nation of laws, being hated is not a crime. And hearsay is not admissible.

The fact that he is still in government is only proof that Bush wants him in government still (and that there is still no evidence that Rove committed a crime). He is not above the law, as you say, and he might be arrested, but a process must come to a proper fruition first. This is a significant moment, but not the end of the story, just the beginning.

[originalpckelly]

18. I'm very disappointed by all sides...

our side for trying to make it look like Bob Riley was being supported by the Klan, and the far bigger problem of a lawyer from Riley's team being a lawyer for the other side and convincing that candidate to resign. All around, this is disgraceful. I don't care if these people think it's not a big deal, and I don't care about any possibility that this is a long tradition, it is wholly totally un-American.

And then there's that whole *small* part about Rove controlling people at the DOJ.

[Kurovski]

19. Oh well.

K&R.

[Hubert Flottz]

21. K&R

[KharmaTrain]

23. Still No Smoking Gun...

While I wish it were, we still have yet to see a memo directly from Rove or some hidden recording of him giving a briefing about this. Yes, I know he's hiding a lot of this stuff, but he learned the lessons of Watergate and other political bosses well...leave a very thin paper trail.

Unfortunately all evidence remains circumstantial...as I believe those in possesion with real evidence are intimidated by Rove and his current power. He also created a web of Goodlings and others to further innoculate him from direct complicity in many of his crimes as he trained his foot soldiers so well they could do his bidding without him being directly involved.

Hopefully, the more people are investigated, the more cracks appear and somehow/somewhere a real piece of damning evidence will surface....and I suspect it will. This is just one more step in that direction.

[NewJeffCT]

24. I know, and I know exactly how they'll respond

"disgruntled former employee"

which means, how can we trust her word, she probably has an axe to grind.

[The Backlash Cometh]

25. So, what was the information they had on Don?

[thereismore]

26. Isn't it hearsay? nt

[lmarcotty]

27. Yes, it is

You're right. An affidavit from someone saying that someone else told her that Rove said he committed a crime is hearsay and not admissible, that I can tell. Witness A could testify to an out of court statement made by Rove if Rove is ever a defendant (or party to a lawsuit); but Witness B can't testify to A's statement as to what Rove said unless B's statement falls within a hearsay exception. I can't think of one that would apply here.

Of course, a search warrant doesn't have to be based on admissible evidence....

L-A

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

31. An objection would probably be sustained during a trial

but this isn't testimony offered during a trial. If what someone said to another couldn't be reported because it is "hearsay" then 90% of our news reporting wouldn't take place, and police would have virtually no leads to pursue during criminal investigations.

[Kurovski]

28. Kick. (nt)

[Swamp Rat]

29. k&r

[Kurovski]

30. Kick. (nt)