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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:06 AM
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Paris Hilton does not belong in jail!
Let her stay out. That girl could not stand jail. For her, it would be cruel and unusual punishment.
The sheriff did the right thing.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:08 AM
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1. are you fucking joking me? i dont care about paris one way or the other
but to think that just because someone is a rich kid, they are beyond punishment, because punishment to them is cruel and unusual is beyond ridiculous
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:11 AM
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6. Two things
that you may not be aware of:

{1} They attempted to give Paris a hot dog & beans for lunch.

{2} Paris felt sad.


Surely her name belongs on the short list with Nelson Mandela.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:13 AM
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13. Oh, the humanity! She - gasp! - felt sad?
:rofl:
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:16 AM
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18. She did.
This is evidence that she is no mere "poor little rich girl." Few human beings have demonstrated the capacity to feel sad in jail. Poor people love incarceration: that's why they are always crowding into the cells.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:39 AM
Response to Reply #18
33. exactly.
I do believe that Babs Bush might have made a few brilliant insights along those lines.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:48 AM
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43. I often hear wingnuts assert that people like jail
It is a roof over their head and 3 square meals per day for free!

But for Paris, it is a step down. No wonder she couldn't take it!
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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 02:32 PM
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117. Too bad hotdogs give you pancreatic cancer...
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:17 AM
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19. the FIENDS!!!
hot dog AND beans???

:scared:
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:22 AM
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23. I hope
she sues. Someone must be held responsible.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:39 AM
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34. WHAT WILL WE TELL THE CHILDREN?????
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:25 AM
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66. To eat their
hotdogs and beans.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 01:58 PM
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103. And always
wear clean underwear
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:57 AM
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Paris cannot eat beans!
She might get gas! Paris does not need to get gas!
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:17 AM
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20. Nelson Mandela was unjustly imprisoned for many years. His name
Edited on Fri Jun-08-07 08:18 AM by bluerum
does not even belong on the same page as Pair Trash Hilton.
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:19 AM
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21. Errrr...you caught the sarcasm, didn't you?
I'm sure you did. Carry on.
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:33 AM
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27. Did not see a smiley,,, I was hoping but assumed nothing. eom
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:30 AM
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69. Some sarcasm is so blatantly obvious that it needs no smiley.
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:38 AM
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73. if you say so nt
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:22 AM
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22. Well
I was thinking of John the Baptist. But Paris had said she was going to meditate on those things that she might do for the betterment of the world. John the Baptist seems so parochial in comparison.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 01:50 PM
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100. ROTFLMAO!
"Surely her name belongs on the short list with Nelson Mandela." OMG...that's so funny, H2O Man!:rofl:

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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 03:21 PM
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125. I can only conclude
Edited on Fri Jun-08-07 03:22 PM by H2O Man
that you are in complete agreement with me on this. The book she penned while in the pen will be better than Mandela's "Long Walk to Freedom." My guess is that it will take "Soul On Ice" off the charts.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 10:05 PM
Response to Reply #125
136. Totally in agreement!
:thumbsup:
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minkyboodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 03:18 PM
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124. LOL
This subthread is cracking me up!!! Beans and Franks,
oh the humanity :nopity:
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 03:22 PM
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126. She is lucky --I have seen things served that could not be identified, hotdogs are premium meals...
Honestly, our jails used to serve three(3) meals a day for each inmate for less than $1/day.

I have seen things delivered to inmates that no one could identify.

She should be so lucky.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 01:30 AM
Response to Reply #126
143. Yep, try beans
with beans and cold beans and some kind of unidentifiable "fish patty" on a bed of beans...
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DawgHouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 07:10 PM
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134. LOL! You're so funny!
:spray:
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 12:59 AM
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139. ...
:rofl:
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:43 AM
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37. Why is the answer in America to throw someone in jail?
Edited on Fri Jun-08-07 08:44 AM by tabasco
I strongly disagree with unequal application of the law.

But why does America have more people in prison, both absolutely and proportionally, than any country on Earth?

The only reason people are screaming for Hilton to be in jail is because we have become conditioned to think this way by the police state.

Hilton's problem is substance abuse and jail is not the best way to fix it.

I am aware if it was me I would be still sitting in jail. But that doesn't change the fact that jail is not where Paris Hilton belongs.

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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:46 AM
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40. thats fine. i find the idea that jail is cruel and unusual punishment ONLY for her and her type
to be ridiculous.

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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:53 AM
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45. It is ridiculous.
The republicans have made it this way with their worship of money above all else.

It is a crime to be poor in America.

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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:57 AM
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46. that was my objection. i think we jail too much as well.
but just cos someone is rich, is not the reason he/she shoudlnt be in jail.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:54 AM
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82. Not so ridiculous as all that.
How many people having to do a 30 day sentence are immediately put into isolation because putting them in the general population would be a threat to their health, safety, or even life?

Considering the hatred I see here, coming from reasonably liberal, enlightened people, how do you think the really sad cases you'd find in jail would respond to the 'spoiled, rich bitch, white chick'? Sure, half the people in jail are just regular folk, but the other half are angry, delusional, dangerous and insane, who NOBODY should have to spend time with. Those people would generally ignore regular inmates, but a celebrity inmate would draw them like flies. So she goes into solitary confinement, for her own protections - and solitary confinement IS cruel and unusual when applied to short term, non-dangerous prisoners.

What she needs is house arrest and a mandatory treatment program - maybe repeated viewing of those 'Blood on the Highway' films we used to see in HS. Jail, for her and for 50% of the current jail population, is really unnecessary.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 01:16 AM
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141. House Arrest?
Seriously? What kind of punishment is that? She lives in a fucking mansion....with all the material needs and wants a person could ever desire.

Part of justice IS punitive. She broke the law. She needs to face the consequences. And if that means taking the risk of dealing with "public school bitches" so be it. She may have learned a thing or two having to interact with the general prison population.

And spare me this "oh she's a celebrity and could be a target" bullshit. Either we live under the same justice system - or don't.

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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 01:37 AM
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145. For once
Edited on Sat Jun-09-07 01:38 AM by ProudDad
I think you're wrong. I'm as anti-jail and prison as they come, I feel that in 99.999% of all cases they make things worse rather than better.

But...

This is a rich, privileged scoff-law who AIN'T gonna' get it until she's kicked in the head.

I DO feel a little pity for her because she was sent into jail, got out and was sent back in. That's pretty cruel but the the system is USUALLY cruel, unusual and counter-productive.

But I'm hoping that she "gets it" this time and stops threatening people's LIVES with her behavior and begins questioning her obvious sense of "entitlement" just a little.


Let me tell you a couple of things that you probably don't know -- 23 days of "solitary" in the VIP cells at LA county are a FUCK of a lot better than one day in general population.

You also have your percentages way off -- In jail, about 1 out of 20 inmates are at all "delusional, dangerous and insane, who NOBODY should have to spend time with." Most are minding their own business, doing their own time. In prison, the odds are a little more weighted toward the more violent but that's just because that's the way the state wants it.
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 02:00 PM
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104. Thank you. The punishist posse exists on DU, too.
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Xmark Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:01 AM
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48. Yes, that's right. How badly she felt is neither here nor there.
Jail isn't supposed to be a pleasant experience!!

She simply needs to live with the consequences, period. Other inmates have to struggle with adjustments...SO CAN SHE.
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:04 AM
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51. Well, then, the other inmates should be movie stars too!
You don't put celebrities like Paris in jail! Why can't you understand that?
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Xmark Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:09 AM
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54. movie star (?????) or not
she needs to buck-up and live with it.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:13 AM
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55. Know weigh.
The Constitution illegalizes crude and unusual punishment. But Paris was sad. Most inmates enjoy incarceration, and return to the comforts of the prison setting over and again. They are as different from Paris as she is from them.
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:15 AM
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58. Sad? Just sad? The poor girl was mortified.
Who could be mean to Paris? How would you like to be Paris, and get locked up?
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:17 AM
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60. I think the
home sentence is a bit stiff. She should maybe be sentenced to a nice vacation, just a little European get-away with a few of her friends.
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redwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 10:26 AM
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92. I would like to be incarcerated at a Hilton Mansion for 30 days.
Is she allowed to have friends over? Or is she, like, totally grounded?
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 01:21 AM
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142. Could I be locked up in the Hilton Mansion
WITHOUT Paris Hilton?

If it's WITH her, then I suppose it'd be like being sent to hell...having to spend time with someone so empty headed and shallow.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:15 AM
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59. Did you forget the sarcasm thingy?
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:17 AM
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62. I didn't think I really needed it.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:32 AM
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70. whew okay
For a minute there I thought you had gone completely insane!

:rofl:
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:33 AM
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71. It's a pretty poor commentary on DU if we need an emoticon tag....
to identify the above exchange as sarcasm.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:50 AM
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78. Well... I've seen some pretty bizzare opions over the years, nothing surprizes me anymore
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:08 AM
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2. Jail made
her feel sad. Few prisoners have ever experienced that feeling.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:43 AM
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38. There will now be a rash of lawsuits
all sad prisoners will be suing to complete their time under house arrest because they feel sad in stir.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:10 AM
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3. Perhaps she should have considered the possible ramifications of
her actions and automatic assumptions of superiority before engaging in those actions.
Her unjustified release is a slap in the face to anyone who has or might run afoul of the "laws" and it undermines the very notion of "nation of laws, not men."
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:11 AM
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4. Joking, I'm sure.
:eyes:
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:11 AM
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5. Yeah but other kids her age who get arrested for similar offenses
are in jail, and for them it isn't cruel and unusual punishment? What makes it cruel and unusual for her in particular? Why isn't it also cruel and unusual for kids who are not so white and not so wealthy? The issue is that she's being treated differently.
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koopie57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:11 AM
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7. let her out
but rather than sending her home send her to work as a nanny for a single mother working two jobs and living in the inner city.
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:12 AM
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10. I wouldn't want her to work as a nanny for my kid
:scared:
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koopie57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:14 AM
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15. *LOL*
You have a point there!
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:23 AM
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24. Her Show
There was a episode of her and Nicole Richie's show were they babysat kids at a party. It was pretty bad. Richie did the worst thing of getting the family's kid mixed up with some other family's kid, but Paris was not that much better. I do not really remember the details of the show, but I think Paris really did not listen to the family on how to take care of the kids, especially the youngest kid. I think at time she really did neglect the youngest kid. So I think you are right she most likely would not be a good babysitter for the inner city mother unless the mother threatened her with bodily harm. I think that might lead to the mother being put in jail and nobody would want that.

No, I am not a regular watcher of Paris Hilton's show. On that day I was just flipping through the channels trying to find something to watch. I happened to find Hilton's show, which was the episode were her and Richie were to plan a birthday party for a toddler and watch the kid during the day. In addition, to what I said before Hilton cursed at the kids birthday party. I think she said the "b" word.
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:36 AM
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29. You'd saddle a single mother
trying to make her way in theis world with that irresponsible idiot? :)

I say make her clean the garbage off the highways.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:12 AM
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8. They wouldn't even let her bring in a Prada version of the striped jumpsuit!
So cruel.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:12 AM
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9. Really. I mean, she's white. Her panties cost more than the prison guards make in a year.
Where is the justice for the privileged and entitled? I mean, her daddy probably got the Sheriff elected.

:evilgrin:
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 01:57 PM
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102. That's pretty expensive panties. No wonder she won't wear them out.
Okay, I don't exactly mean "wear them out."
:eyes:
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 12:56 AM
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138. LMAO
Oh, this was too good of a comment to go unremarked!

:applause:
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commander bunnypants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:13 AM
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11. yea
I felt sad in my little juant in the pokey and they screwed up my meds (when I got them)

She should be on a chain gang


CB
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:13 AM
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12. Do the crime...
Do the time.
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:14 AM
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14. Neither do a lot of other people who are in jail
But they don't get the media attention, or have the bucks, or have the celebrity and power to get out.

How can anyone see this as a "justice" system if the rich and powerful get a "get out of jail free" card when the "least" of us have no such luxury?

This is just further and irrefutable evidence that our legal system has nothing to do with justice.



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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:15 AM
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16. If other people who commit similiar crimes get the same sentence, then she
should serve the same thing. But, all in all, I really don't care what happens to Paris. She is famous for being a rich daddy's girl, right?
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:16 AM
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17. Make her do community service for a year.
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erpowers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:42 AM
Original message
Good Idea
I think that is a good idea. I do not know how effective she would be since what had been seen of her so far is that she does not like to take too many things seriously. However, I think she should be required and forced to work with poor inner city kids, hopefully the ones who are working hard trying to get out of their bad neighorhood. Maybe seeing that there is a group of people who want so much to succeed, but have nowhere near the money she has will make Hilton at least try to make the world a better place.

I think that is also something that makes some people angry with the Hilton sentence. Hilton has a ton of money with which she could really try to change the world for the better. Even if she does not want an education she could give money to schools or setup scholarships for kids who do not have the means to get the education they want.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:43 AM
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delete
Edited on Fri Jun-08-07 09:41 AM by hnmnf
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:43 AM
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36. That for her is truly cruel and unusual punishment
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:24 AM
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25. Agreed, the wealthy & beautiful deserve a higher form of justice.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:39 AM
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32. This just isnt true, even the Sherriffs department questions her sentence....
First off, its not uncommon, because of overcrowding, for the Department to release non violent first offenders after having served less than 10% of their sentence. Second off, even the Sherriffs spokesman questioned the 25 day jail sentence for a non violent driving infraction. The fact is, she got MORE time than the average person because she's wealthy and a celebrity. Not the other way around.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:47 AM
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41. I think they were just sick of hearing her pitiful sobbing.
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:50 AM
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44. "she got MORE time than the average person because she's wealthy and a celebrity"
Bullshit.
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:35 AM
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72. I thought it was because she had contempt for the law
she didn't show up to her trial, right? Or maybe it was her sentencing?

Regardless, the fact that Paris felt that she didn't have to follow the rules like the little people do is precisely why she should serve her full sentence. This early release crap is bullshit and a slap in the face to all of those that have to follow the law and cannot afford good representation.
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:24 AM
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26. Well played! Inflammatory statement followed by thread abandonment!
A+!
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:58 AM
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47. Thanks dude!
Or dudette, whichever the case may be.
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triguy46 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 10:56 AM
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98. You guys are faster at arriving at what I consider to be the correct assessment. n/t
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:34 AM
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28. Snerf...
This post made me spit out my diet coke.

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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:37 AM
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30. "For her, it would be cruel and unusual punishment."
Long lines of average Americans are forming! Rumor is, Paris is serving cake for everyone!
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:37 AM
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31. Justice must be handled the same for all, or it fails be be justice.
Are all others disturbed with being imprisoned for their actions allowed to claim mental distress and thus freed to house arrest? Then Paris is meremy making a mockery of our sysem just like the * administration.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:14 AM
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57. 'Just Us', the super rich & famous.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 01:43 AM
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147. There has NEVER been "justice"
Edited on Sat Jun-09-07 01:44 AM by ProudDad
except by accident. Paris' little adventure may be one of those accidents. Time will tell.

The system is NOT set up to administer justice but exists to cast blame and exact revenge.

The whole criminal-injustice system's total bullshit...
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:42 AM
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35. A lot of people in jail don't belong there. Abbie Lowell talked about this on the Kornheiser Show.
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Fox Mulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:44 AM
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39. How about we release all prisoners who can't stand jail?
:eyes:
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:48 AM
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42. Jail is for poor people...
PERIOD!
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 10:19 AM
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89. Paris should be sent to Iraq ... entertain the Troops....?
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 01:48 PM
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99. She should be sent to Iraq as one of the troops.
The infantry could use a new point lady!
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 04:44 PM
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129. I can see her on RECON....LOL......Prolly do a good job too
Them Insurgents would love to capture HER and hold her HOSTAGE....

Wait a minute...that would make a good plot for a movie.....Mission to Free Paris...OMG...there would be tons of volunteers......
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 06:43 PM
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130. Pariszilla meats the Hong Kong Dong...OR...
Is Paris's Burning?

She walks she talks she crawls on her belly like a reptile!...Mile after Mile!

Parasite Hilton is getting free room and board from the taxpaying poor in Kolley-4-knee-ya.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 07:59 PM
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135. Is she in the slammer yet...for the full 40 days? I can't keep up, they keep changing the damn thing
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:02 AM
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49. Okay. n/t
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:04 AM
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50. Paris----Don't Do The Crime If You Can't Do The Time nt
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ElboRuum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:08 AM
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52. You forgot your sarcasm emoticon.
Oh wait, were you serious?
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:09 AM
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53. I hope when I get busted, that I will be able to avoid jail because I
just don't want to be there.

I suppose you think bush and his entire administration shouldn't be in jail,
because they are rich and important.
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:13 AM
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56. They're not movie stars.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:17 AM
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61. NONSENCE..TELL THAT TO SOMEONE IF SHE KILLS SOMEONE ON THE ROAD!!
tell that to every kid who has done less and gone to jail!!

if that was my son ..and he cried his eyes out and puked 24/7 they would keep him in jail if he had broken the law like she has repeatedly!

there are consequences to our actions..even if you are Paris Hilton!

the jail she spends today, may be a life that is saved in the future!

any other young or old person who committed the same crime would do the time!!

she is no exception!!
nor should she be!

fly

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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:19 AM
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63. What if she mowed down a bunch of cops with a submachine gun.
Huh? What if she did that? Same thing.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:21 AM
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64. Every time
a strong leader arrives on the scene, they are attacked. I think there is a republican plot to derail the movement to draft her for the democratic nominee for president.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:45 AM
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76. lol..no kidding!!! ..tree hugging for Paris..join here!! eom
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:50 AM
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77. Soledad Sister
George Jackson wrote of how prison would either bring out the best in a person, or absolutely destroy them. She survived the attempt to entice her to eat a hot dog & beans for lunch. Few people could endure that.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:42 AM
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74. we are not discussing a 20+ year old with a sub machine gun..but driving is a privilege
and she could easily mow down a bunch of cops drinking or doing drugs driving..or mow down a bunch of young children or take out a family in a car..by mowing them down with an automobile while intoxicated!!

like i said there are consequences for illegal behavior..no one should be above the law!! and this is not her first time..so if we give her a pass again..what is next time?. a dead family..or a mom with a child in the car..or a dad and the family is left without the father..what??

how many passes does a rich 20 + get over everyone else's 20+ kid??

I was hit head on by a 21 year old in Los Angeles..who's parents had just turned the insurance into his name..he had $15,000 dollars of insurance..he was on drugs..

my hand was shattered..and my foot was shattered..
my car was totalled..i went through several surgeries..and 4 years of therapy..and nerve damage to my elbow..to get 2% use of my hand..today as i get older..i have a hard time walking and shuffle alot to hide the pain in my foot that was shattered ( yes i am vain about it) ...and yet i know...i was lucky..i wasn't killed..and i had to sue my own insurance..for under insured..and then had to go through awful depositions and humiliation by the insurance company to get any monetary relief of my medical bills...

the young man had to pay the consequences..he went to jail a lot longer than 23 days..and i ALWAYS FEEL GUILT OF THAT..but that was the consequences of his behaviour.

i still have only 2% use of my left hand..its why my typing is so damn lousy!!

I used to love to play the piano..a joy in life to me..now i can only play with my right hand..that was taken away from me..as well as many other things...to numerous to write about..

and it took a year of my life with casts on my foot and hand..on opposite sides..so i couldn't even use crutches!!

i was out of work for a very long time and then had to prove i could do my job after years of rehab...and hard work to get my skills back..

and today my right hand is getting carpel tunnel because it takes on all the work of both hands..and aches very badly most of the time..

yes there are consequences for breaking the law..and this girl needs to learn them before she kills someone ..or someone's. Or destroys others lives.


fly
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 10:18 AM
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87. We aren't discussing your car wreck.
We are talking about a poor girl who can't possible endure a time in jail. You're getting all worked up. Sorry about your hand though. But don't take it out on poor Paris.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 01:47 AM
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148. you've got to be KIDDING
Where's your little :sarcasm: thingie???
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:24 AM
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65. This issue really has little to do with Paris personally
It doesn't matter who she is except that she's rich and famous. The point here is that there are two justice systems in this country, one for the rich and/or famous and one for the rest of us. Whether it was Paris or some other rich person doesn't make a difference. If a poor "nobody" received this sentence, you can be certain they would have to fulfill it and I'm betting even if they had a very serious medical condition they would have to stay in jail. This whole episode enrages me when I think about it but not because I like or don't like Paris Hilton.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:53 AM
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80. exactly..look at Foley still on the loose..in Fl...but don't worry he went to rehab!!
rehab is the jail for the rich and privledged!!

break the law go to rehab and everyone forgets that you broke the law!!

and ..how many kids is Foley around..well we just don't know now do we??

what consequences has he paid legally??

none that i know of..other than losing his job...

but how many kids lives that that perv effect??

yes privledge does have it's benefits...

now how many poor people's kids are in jail?? and our sympathy's lie where??:sarcasm:

bet they don't just get 23 days in jail..for breaking our laws!!

fly
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:26 AM
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67. poor thing
the rich are different from the rest of us, don't you see?
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 03:16 PM
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123. Paris has special needs.
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watercolors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:30 AM
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68. Well if not jail
how about a rehap center where she is with real people!! Sick of thses rich bimbos getting special treatment, if it were your daughter or mine, they would be in jail!
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:44 AM
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75. Paris thinks she has problems.....
http://www.imedinews.ge/en/news_read/42732


Brandy responds, files lawsuit on crash
May 31, 2007, 03:01 AM

LOS ANGELES, May 30 (UPI) — Singer Brandy and another driver in a fatal December auto accident in Los Angeles blame each other in lawsuits each filed against the other.

Mallory Ham sued Brandy, full name Brandy Norwood, for negligence and motor vehicle damage, E! News reported. The suit filed last week said the Moesha star carelessly and negligently owned, operated, entrusted, leased, repaired, modified, maintained and/or controlled a 2007 Land Rover Range Rover so as to cause a multi-vehicle accident that severely injured plaintiff Mallory Ham and killed another person.

Norwood countersued Ham, contending that Ham caused the fatal crash.

She's just responding to pieces of litigation as they come in, Brandy attorney Edwin McPherson told E! News.

Norwood also responded to the three other suits filed as a result of the four-car collision in which Awatef Aboudihaj died in a hospital of injuries she received when struck by another vehicle.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:56 AM
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83. EXACTLY!!..the jail paris spends today may save lives!!..she needs some growing up!!
and realizing her rights to drive don't supercede others rights to live !!

fly
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:53 AM
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79. She's a citizen and should be treated no different than other criminals.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:53 AM
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81. Joking aside
Edited on Fri Jun-08-07 09:56 AM by mmonk
I knew a man that hung himself in jail. His offense was a DWI (which is serious given the danger) but for having to spend a night in jail, it wasn't worth it (could have took his license and impounded the car instead). Jail should be for violent offenders or flight risks. Carry on. I'll add traitors like Libby (should stay in jail a long time).
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 10:00 AM
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84. BREAKING NEWS : She's now going to "appear" before the judge today BY PHONE!!!
Yeah...all men are equal before the law! :eyes:
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 10:11 AM
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85. Well, that makes sense.
How can anyone expect her to get out of bed, get dressed and have the county sheriff's dept. drive her to court? That's asking way too much of a wealthy heiress before 9am on a Friday.
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 10:20 AM
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91. Well, she is still all shook up.
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Sukie1941 Donating Member (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 10:14 AM
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86. Send Paris on a one-way ticket
to Paris!

Maybe the inmates at the LA jail should hold a "cry-in" so maybe they can go home, too!
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 10:19 AM
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88. They are not movie stars.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 10:19 AM
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90. DAMN THIS OUT OF CONTROL JUDGE!!! WHERES TOM DELAY WHEN YOU NEED HIM!!!
Edited on Fri Jun-08-07 10:19 AM by LSK
He knows how to control these reckless activist judges!!!!

:D
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 10:31 AM
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93. I agree but not for your reasons.
I don't think alcohol or drug related infractions should be punished by jail time unless there was a crime committed involving a victim like manslaughter, murder or rape for instance. A simple DUI, which is what Hilton did should have put her into rehab and resulted in her driver's license being revoked for a year or more. That's where they all belong who have committed alcohol or drug violations, not jail. A parole violation, which is what I believe got her sent to jail is certainly overkill. She's just a rich spoiled brat, but not a felon.

Certainly, we can spend our tax money on real felons. Taking away her driver's license for a year and making her do community service every week for a year would accomplish, I believe, what the judge was trying to do, teach her a lesson without the excessive, draconian punishment. All it did was complicate matters with someone who can afford all those lawyers and psychiatrists to achieve what it turns out it did.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 10:38 AM
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94. Her driver's license was suspended and she was on probation.
She violated her probation by continuing to drive with a suspended license. That's why she got the jail time.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 10:50 AM
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97. It's still overkill.
She's not a felon, just someone who believes driving laws are for the little people. I think putting her out on the freeway picking up trash for a certain number of hours a week for six months should be sufficient. Everytime, she violates her probation, they should add more hours a week and more months until she gets the picture. I would certainly use jail as a last resort and only if for instance if she actually does commit a felony like assaulting someone, maybe the judge.

If she goes to jail for this, that will set a precedent that everyone will go jail for minor infractions who can't afford all the lawyers and psychiatrists that she can.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 03:04 PM
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121. Driving while suspended is rightfully considered a pretty serious
crime because it shows CONTEMPT FOR THE JUSTICE SYSTEM, which until that point had given her the benefit of the doubt and not jailed her right away.

She violated the public trust.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 03:43 PM
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128. You have a good point but still she
hasn't really committed a crime involving a victim except herself. Beverly Hills and Bel Air are full of snotty, entitled little heirs and heiresses like her, who break the law all the time because they can. Yet, daddy's money always bails them out and there really isn't much you can do about it as long as there wasn't a car accident with death or injuries involved.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 10:54 AM
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151. When you're in the public eye, it's harder to get away with
cheating the system or buying off the judge. She should have known that.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 10:39 AM
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95. Perhaps she could be exiled to Versailles? n/t
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 10:41 AM
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96. "It's so cruel what has happened to her," the friend told OK! "She wasn't allowed to wax or use
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 01:54 PM
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101. This whole conviction trauma has been punishment enough for her.
If anything, I think LA County probably owes this poor woman a refund.

Sure, you can say she has enough money on her own as it is. But can you really put a price tag on justice?
.
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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 02:00 PM
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105. I agree with you. She is caught in the middle of an absolutely
horrible circus. I'm starting to feel really sorry for her.

One attorney said this morning that most people who had done what she did would never have spent anytime in jail. The jails are too overcrowded. Somebody off the stree would have been sentenced and then would have spent 10% of their sentence in actual jail time.

But because she is so famous she got the book thrown at her - just to show that rich people aren't given special deals.

I don't really care at this point. This thing is a circus.
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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 02:18 PM
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113. Waaaaaah, donate to the Paris HIlton's fund!
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 01:50 AM
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149. Oh yeah

"One attorney said this morning that most people who had done what she did would never have spent anytime in jail. The jails are too overcrowded. Somebody off the street would have been sentenced and then would have spent 10% of their sentence in actual jail time."

Unimpeachable source :sarcasm: Total bullshit....

She didn't even do 1/10th of her "time"... Now she will.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 02:04 PM
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106. Community Service would have sufficed.
Something like, making her pick up garbage along the freeway, for a month. That would also have been a terrible punishment for her. And that way, she's be doing something for her community instead of being a goldbrick.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 02:08 PM
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108. The straw that broke the camels back was disrespecting the judge.
Showing up late to court is not smart.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 02:06 PM
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107. Who belongs in jail?
No one. So WTF are you talking about. She's earned her stay as much as anyone. 2 crimes including a probation violation and late to court. She's earned it.
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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 02:17 PM
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112. I suppose the OP meant that if you are poor and uneducated, jail is not so bad
compared to not being in jail.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 02:29 PM
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116. Oh, the Barbara Bush mindset.
Interesting :freak:
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 02:11 PM
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109. And the award for best subversive non-use of the sarcasm tag ever...
...goes to Coal King!
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 02:15 PM
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110. The media has decided we talk about Paris Hilton
and so we do.

I think Al Gore mentioned something about this sort of thing.
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firefox_fan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 02:16 PM
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111. The argument: Because she is a spoiled jerk jail is too harsh for her...
Tough, I'd say. Jail is cruel and unusual punishment for anybody who's not been in jail before!
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 02:20 PM
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114. she should make community service pornos instead--or give free conjugal visits at the man jail
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 02:26 PM
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115. LOL!
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 02:34 PM
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118. I am not a big fan of Jail time for things like this but this girl needs a hard lesson
and since most Black and Hispanic girls who do the same thing get jail time Paris most definitely should as well.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 02:36 PM
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119. Bring me the head of Paris Hilton!!
To which Paris replies, "Okay, but let me get the video equipment set up first. While Jeeves is doing that, you can pull down your pants and lay down."
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 02:46 PM
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120. Boohoo. If she wanted to stay out of jail she shouldn't have driven drunk
the SECOND TIME, after she already got convicted.

The judge was lenient once, and that spoiled twit violated his trust. Throw her back in and let her cry.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 03:15 PM
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122. 100% agree! Keep Paris free
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 03:23 PM
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127. You right. Prison food makes Paris farty and bloated.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 10:07 PM
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137. Actually, her skin got so dry in there because she was not allowed
to moisturize. The horror, the horror of it all.
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 06:46 PM
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131. k&r...n/t
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 06:49 PM
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132. You bleeding heart liberals are at it again!
(IS DU becoming a Colbert Nation skit or is it just me?)

Well, you are actually probably correct for her-it's the end of the ego consciousness-it's practically a peyote trip. But, I really believe suffering is good for the soul. Not torture, but you know, hard times. It's how you gain empathy and character. But maybe she doesn't deserve that, which means actually you don't want what's best for her. Sometimes tough love really is love.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 06:59 PM
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133. Tell it to the mother
of the paraplegic son who was sent to jail for smoking pot.


Oh yeah...he died there after a few days.
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 01:10 AM
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140. you
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 01:31 AM
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144. Sorry I don't agree
Had Paris been a Paris Jones from South Central LA, there would have been no negotiation.
Glad she's back to serve the full sentence and hope something good comes out of it...
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 01:41 AM
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146. That's your reason???
Gimme a fucking break.

:eyes:

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 02:05 AM
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-09-07 12:02 PM
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152. If they really wanted to treat her cruelly
Edited on Sat Jun-09-07 12:03 PM by symbolman
they'd force her to learn to write words and stuff, and count cash, maybe stacks of nickels with her bare hands...

I think they should let her out, send her home with that GPS unit on her leg, attached with a chain to a front end loader tire, and just for fun, send the REST of the women in that jail to HER HOUSE under House arrest..

The ROOF, the ROOF, the ROOF is on FIRE!

Yo, Paris, where da Caviate?
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