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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 12:21 AM
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Rudy The Dictator
Two great Giuliani posts combined at CrooksandLiars:

Rudy the Dictator

Posted: 09 Jun 2007 05:55 PM CDT

nathanrudy at DailyKos reminds us of our “pre-9/11 thinking”:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/6/9/9012/51293

But the horrors struck our nation in New York, Pennsylvania and Washington DC and things changed. Obviously, one of the major changes was that the primary for New York City Mayor was scuttled and had to be postponed. ...

But in the following days we got to see the real Giuliani. It’s easier to be heroic in front of cameras while people are afraid. Strongmen for all time have been able to do that, gathering the fears of the people together into a small place and whipping them up into a frenzy of passion that lifts the strongman to greater power.

Giuliani knew that, and tried to benefit. On September 26, 2001 - two weeks after the worst attack on our mainland since the Civil War - Giuliani proposed that he be able to hold on to his office for three more months. ... There was no law that supported such an extension, no tradition that offered it, no constitutional power that allowed it. Giuliani simply thought that the law of his city, state and nation should be aborted for his own personal glory.

Let me say that again: Rudy Giuliani used the most horrific moment of the last fifty years to try to maintain power for himself...

Sam Sloan reminds us of how NYers viewed Rudy in the days prior to 9/11 here:

http://www.samsloan.com/greenwin.htm

That last link is a GREAT Giuliani-mythbusting resource




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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 12:26 AM
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1. Recommended and kicked.
Everyone needs to read all the stuff at both these links. I truly believe that Rudy is one of the most frightening candidates that have ever run for the White House.
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Vexatious Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 12:35 AM
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2. Giuliani is a piece of work indeed.
Here's a link to a great column on "Americas Mayor" by my favorite political writer Matt Taibbi:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/14952564/giuliani_worse_than_bush
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 12:35 AM
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3. Yeah, well, this quote kinda blows away...
much of the credibility the author might have had:

"Giuliani can be counted on to retire quickly to the Bahamas or some third world country such as Afghanistan, because the crimes committed by this mayor are too numerous and well known for him to escape criminal prosecution."

I know these are strange times, but Rudy ain't from the Permanent Government that keeps Bushes and such out of the slam.

One of my fondest moments of the Rudy Regime was when he walled of City Hall long before 9/11. This was the City Hall that every Mayor had kept open, and where Koch used to hold fun stuff on the steps at least once a week. Not Rudy-- the citizens of new York, and even the City Council, were never to set foot in their City Hall again. Or even get close to it.

About his extending his term-- we all remember that. Something about how only he, the Great One and renowned expert, could possibly lead New York through that fearful time. New Yorkers, the courts, and pretty much everyone but Rudy's toadies and asslickers, called bullshit on that one and rather loudly encouraged him to go off on his merry way.

Little did we know the sorry-ass fucker would run for President. We suspected it when he bailed from the Senate run, though-- an ego like his doesn't quit a race unless there are far bigger fish to fry.

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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 12:39 AM
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4. It was written several years ago, of course.
but you would've thought that prediction would have to be true, because it SHOULD be true. Sigh.

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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 01:13 AM
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6. The walling-off of City Hall,
I remember that one. They were calling it "The Rudybunker".
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 01:06 AM
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5. Guiliani is a joke, a very bad joke, albeit a very dangerous one.
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Faux pas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 02:40 AM
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7. kick
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 04:14 AM
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8. My biggest fear of Guilliani is that he would be another
authoritarian type.

For those who say Guilliani is a joke, this guy just might win.

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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 05:00 AM
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9. There was a good article on him in Vanity Fair
and it did not paint a good picture of him.

He kids hate him. And while they did not say they were fat, it did say that Rudy used the NYC police dept as babysitters for them and the police feed them police food, lots of police food :rofl:

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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 10:08 AM
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10. Rudi would do th the Planet, what he did to NYC
A safe place as long as you're White, Wealthy and willing to look the other way.


Good Germans had nothing to fear from the Reich.
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