C-Span Doing a "Talk Show Host" panel....Anyone see it? tired, tired, tired.

[KoKo]

I just flipped it on surfing and there were maybe 12 people bloviating about their "Audience" and most seemed to be conservative talk show hosts like Lars Larson, Gordon Liddy and others that I don't know but they all seemed to be saying the same thing: "Clinton, Clinton, Janet Reno, Cut & Run Dems, Win in Iraq, Gotta WIN in Iraq...blather, blather, blather.

The three that seemed to be trying to represent Moderates or Progressives were Stephanie Miller, Lionel and Bill Press. Bill Press and Lionel seemed tired of the whole Repug Litany of "Clinton, Sex, Hillary, Vince Foster, Democrats are Criminals" crap and Stephanie tried but seemed drowned out of the group.

She tried to bring up that Gonzalez should be gone...he lied to congress, he tried to obstruct justice by getting a sick man (Ashcroft) to sign an illegal wiretapping...but they just shouted her down with Janet Reno didn't prosecute anyone, she did nothing, she was a Clinton whore...the Democrats did worse the Democrats are....blah, blah."

It made me tired. I thought about how I've been hearing this Crap so long that it goes in one ear and out the other. Panels stacked with bloviating Repugs who say the same thing to their brain dead listeners and a few Progressives/Moderates who try to do something but never seem to be able to withstand the onslaught of language and lies.

Why bother......

I wonder if their viewership is dropping? I don't see statistics on how these Talk Shows are doing. I had my doubts about that Lionel on AAR...This is the first time I'd seen or heard him. He wasn't impressive to me...but I know some DU'ers like him.

Anyway...tired...tired...old stuff...same old stuff.

[IndyOp]

1. C-SPAN didn't have the courage to invite Thom Hartmann, huh?

Thom + Stephanie + Sam Seder + Randi Rhodes or Rachel Maddox === now THAT would be worthwhile viewing.

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[KoKo]

2. Now that you mention it...that's what made me so tired...because it was only

limited to the most "vocal" and not the others who are working like Thom Hartmann and the others on AAR that were there. I like Stephanie Miller ...and she seemed the "newest voice" but Stephanie does alot of comedy/sarcasm on her show. I guess "insider Bill Press" stood in for Hartmann?

Maybe that's what they were doing? The ones with the highest ratings? Does "Lionel" have huge ratings after only a few weeks on AAR, though? That's what I wonder.

[IndyOp]

3. I have no idea what kind of ratings Lionel has...

The people who put together that kind of event are always a year or two behind current -- to them Stephanie Miller is cutting edge, when she really isn't.

Thom Hartmann is whupping Rush Limpball's arse in a bunch of markets in which they go head-to-head.

I don't know what their logic was or even if they were trying to be logical...

:shrug:

[KoKo]

4. Don't know either...but lots of Progressive Hopes are hinged on New Voices....

and it get's harder and colder...when we see what happens. :shrug: