Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Faux News analyst Laura Ingle: cook your e-coli infected beef thoroughly

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
rec_report Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 04:40 PM
Original message
Faux News analyst Laura Ingle: cook your e-coli infected beef thoroughly
(161 degrees F), and you should be OK!

:puke: :puke: :puke:

The Bush regime's Department of Agribusiness is absof*ckinglutely *useless!*

More news here.

Polar Bear

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 04:42 PM
Response to Original message
1. But we are safer under the bu$h regime
Edited on Sun Jun-10-07 04:43 PM by liberal N proud
NOT!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 04:48 PM
Response to Original message
2. you know, I often jokingly tell my kids that were having shit on a plate for dinner
when they ask. I guess I'm really not that from from the truth.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 05:16 PM
Response to Reply #2
19. Shit: it's whats for dinner! n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 04:48 PM
Response to Original message
3. In the interests of disseminating accurate info:
Edited on Sun Jun-10-07 04:48 PM by pinto
(aside) I have no opinion on the talking head. I've never seen her, don't ever plan to. This is from the CDC.

Escherichia coli O157:H7

What can you do to prevent E. coli O157:H7 infection?

Cook all ground beef and hamburger thoroughly. Because ground beef can turn brown before disease-causing bacteria are killed, use a digital instant-read meat thermometer to ensure thorough cooking. Ground beef should be cooked until a thermometer inserted into several parts of the patty, including the thickest part, reads at least 160º F. Persons who cook ground beef without using a thermometer can decrease their risk of illness by not eating ground beef patties that are still pink in the middle.


If you are served an undercooked hamburger or other ground beef product in a restaurant, send it back for further cooking. You may want to ask for a new bun and a clean plate, too.


Avoid spreading harmful bacteria in your kitchen. Keep raw meat separate from ready-to-eat foods. Wash hands, counters, and utensils with hot soapy water after they touch raw meat. Never place cooked hamburgers or ground beef on the unwashed plate that held raw patties. Wash meat thermometers in between tests of patties that require further cooking.


Drink only pasteurized milk, juice, or cider. Commercial juice with an extended shelf-life that is sold at room temperature (e.g. juice in cardboard boxes, vacuum sealed juice in glass containers) has been pasteurized, although this is generally not indicated on the label. Juice concentrates are also heated sufficiently to kill pathogens.


Wash fruits and vegetables under running water, especially those that will not be cooked. Be aware that bacteria are sticky, so even thorough washing may not remove all contamination. Remove the outer leaves of leafy vegetables. Children under 5 years of age, immunocompromised persons, and the elderly should avoid eating alfalfa sprouts until their safety can be assured. Persons at high risk of complications from foodborne illness may choose to consume cooked vegetables and peeled fruits.


Drink municipal water that has been treated with chlorine or another effective disinfectant.


Avoid swallowing lake or pool water while swimming. (For more information, see the CDC Healthy Swimming website.)


Make sure that persons with diarrhea, especially children, wash their hands carefully with soap after bowel movements to reduce the risk of spreading infection, and that persons wash hands after changing soiled diapers. Anyone with a diarrheal illness should avoid swimming in public pools or lakes, sharing baths with others, and preparing food for others.


from:

Escherichia coli O157:H7

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dbmd/diseaseinfo/escherichiacoli_g.htm

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 05:14 PM
Response to Reply #3
17. Thanks. And this: grind your own meat. We like rare burgers but don't buy
packaged ground beef or other meat...we buy big hunks (roasts) and grind them up at home. Chances of E coli in a large cut are small and can be safely washed off if there happens to be some. And we grind a lot of deer that WE have butchered and we KNOW it was done properly. Also there is no 100% guarantee that even home-grown vegetables are free of harmful bacteria - no way to know what roving bird or animal has dumped on your garden.
Which is why washing them is important.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 04:48 PM
Response to Original message
4. During the Reagan administration, E. coli would have been considered a vegetable.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rec_report Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 04:57 PM
Response to Reply #4
7. Yes, RayGun was the world's most dangerous terrorist until...
Dictator Bush was installed.
Polar Bear
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 04:50 PM
Response to Original message
5. SIgh....even Trader Joe's got some bad beef......
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rec_report Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 05:02 PM
Response to Reply #5
9. The Bush regime has curtailed/eliminated most of the safety rules/inspections.
I often think that the Iraq invasion was/is a cover for skyrocketing corpora-terrorism.
Polar Bear
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 04:52 PM
Response to Original message
6. I've had e. coli and it is AWFUL
I thought I was going to die. I swear I did. That is without a doubt the sickest I've been in my life. Though to be fair, I've been generally pretty lucky, health-wise.

Just cook your meat, people. Don't trust any ground beef at all. I don't even eat hamburgers because there is no way to have a burger taste good and ensure it's cooked through well enough. Actually, I can't remember the last time I had ground beef in any dish at all. I just don't trust it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 05:00 PM
Response to Original message
8. irradiate it
Seems I've read that's what they do with the beef they put in canned food.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nosmokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 05:06 PM
Response to Reply #8
12. and then you're just eating irradiated shit. no thanks. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 05:09 PM
Response to Reply #12
13. No, better to start stocking up on adaptive dna.
Might help to adapt suddenly, start eating uranium ore people. Make it a salt replacement. Stick you head in the microwave and dry your hair more often. :crazy:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 05:13 PM
Response to Reply #12
16. That was tongue-in-cheek
I was just commenting about another method used with our food that people might not be aware of. I wasn't actually suggesting people irradiate rotten food and eat it, although we probably eat some of it without knowing about it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nosmokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 06:58 PM
Response to Reply #16
23. oops!
sorry SnS:hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Man_in_the_Moon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 07:36 PM
Response to Reply #16
26. Actually irradiating it would work
contrary to popular misconception irradiating foods does not make it radioactive or harmful in any way.



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rec_report Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 07:27 PM
Response to Reply #12
25. Exactly. The Bush regime will do *anything* rather than force....
agribusiness to spend the money to produce safe food.
Polar Bear
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 05:03 PM
Response to Original message
10. Well, we all know she eats home cooked meals and
hahahaha just kidding. I'm sure her 'manager' allows her to eat at appropriate times.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nosmokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 05:05 PM
Response to Original message
11. Organic Grass fed free ranged beef that has *NEVER* been feed lotted is as
safe as it gets.Nothing in life is 100%, but when you take animals out that environment and start dealing with real people that are your neighbors that you build relationships of trust with that go far beyond any USDA stamp, real people that take pride in their work and their product instead of trying to squeeze every last penny out that beeve they're selling then you're gonna get a quality piece of meat that you can trust a damn sight further than anything that came out of any chain store, including whole foods or wild oats or trader Joe's or any other pig all dressed up in frills and lipstick.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 05:11 PM
Response to Reply #11
15. My understanding is that e. coli gets in during processing
Edited on Sun Jun-10-07 05:12 PM by gollygee
it gets on the blades when meat is processed, which is why it's so much more of a threat in ground beef - the blades have been all through the meat.

Edit - what I mean is that it's about processing more than raising.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nosmokes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 06:49 PM
Response to Reply #15
20. True, but the feed-lotted beef has spent weeks standing around
in it's own filth and that of hundreds or thousands of other head, eating a diet it was bever intended to eat which is gonna make it sick. consequently feedlot beef is usuallycovered with manure on it's hide and commercial slaughter houses don't do a whole lot more than rinse before they kill and gut, so even if they're careful about making sure the colon contents don't contaminate the rest of the meat there's the whole problem w/ how contaminated the beeve is going into the facility.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 05:10 PM
Response to Original message
14. Moran's Ground Beef? Who would buy hamburger from Moran's?
http://www.nbc11.com/news/13473948/detail.html
# .4- and 3-pound trays of MORAN'S 75/25 ground beef.
# 1-pound chubs of MORAN'S 80/20 ground beef.
# 1.3-pound trays of MORAN'S All Natural HAMBURGER PATTIES 80/20.
# 1.25-pound trays of MORAN'S All Natural 85/15 ground beef.
# 3-pound trays of MORAN'S All Natural 85/15 ground beef.
# 1.25-pound trays MORAN'S All Natural 85/15 'chili grind' ground beef.
# 1-, 1.33- and 3-pound trays of MORAN'S All Natural HAMBURGER PATTIES 85/15.
# 1.25-pound trays of MORAN'S All Natural 90/10 ground sirloin.
# 1.25-pound trays of MORAN'S All Natural SIRLOIN PATTIES 90/10.
# 1.25-pound trays of MORAN'S All Natural 93/7 ground beef.
# 1-pound trays of MORAN'S All Natural HAMBURGER PATTIES 96/4
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 05:16 PM
Response to Original message
18. Sold at WALMART
Shoot me before I ever set foot in a WalMart.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 06:51 PM
Response to Original message
21. Glad I do not eat beef...or meat for that matter..
I thought the it was the Governments job to protect us from such things? Sounds like they are trying to kill us off.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 06:53 PM
Response to Reply #21
22. Actually no, they have been out of the business of protecting us
from such things - like our food supply for about 3 years now. It was just recently they gutted the FDA and said you don't have to tell people crap about what we put in their food. Corporations loved that idea, who knew?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-10-07 07:14 PM
Response to Reply #22
24. Appalling! nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 12:44 AM
Response to Reply #24
27. It is.
Hopefully someone will bring back regulations one day - if we all survive another year or so.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sun Nov 03rd 2024, 09:03 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC