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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 07:24 PM
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Tired of the chain hate emails?
Check out what a DUer did about one she received! This is what we all need to do to stop this hate from spreading further!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=214&topic_id=130630&mesg_id=130630
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 08:08 PM
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1. Amen!
It's like America is going down the rabbit hole faster than I thought, and I'm helpless to do anything about it. I received the one talked about in this blog--

http://sugarfreak.typepad.com/mobtownshank/2006/09/howdy_folks_wow.html

a few days ago, and it came from my wife's best friend. I rebutted the article--politely--but that touched off a whole malestrom from the woman's brother. My wife has acted as though I was way out of line to post the rebuttal to whole list, and she says that sort of thing isn't "hate speech" (not the term I used in my email response, but is what I said it was when talking privately). Gee, I try to rebut a bigoted spam mail and I'm the bad guy. :eyes:

Going further down the rabbit hole, I received as a "Father's Day" gift, a book that may not be too-well-intentioned, by my sister's best friend, 100 People Who are Screwing Up America. Prominently featured on the front cover are Michael Moore, Al Sharpton, Barbara Streisand, Howard Dean, and Senators Kennedy and Byrd. (Oh sure! It's Michael Moore's fault more than 3000 of our soldiers are dead in Iraq. It's Barbara Streisand who created Gitmo. Yeah, and Howard Dean single-handedly caused gasoline to go up 3 times in price with no energy policy...I could go on and on...)

Maybe I should be glad--that the waste of paper she gave me isn't going to a sheeple who would actually be swayed by its paltry arguments.

Still, it goes to show you...and I'm getting depressed by this...that still, after all that's happened in the country the last 7 years, after all the scandals...too many of those closest to me still don't get it. I wonder if this retarded country ever will.

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 08:20 PM
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4. Your email, your right to reply with facts
They should be glad you are willing to take the time to educate them.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 07:50 AM
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17. well, it's bad form to NOT blind-copy people you send chain emails to.
Edited on Tue Jun-12-07 07:50 AM by Iris
If you must send them at all. But most people who forward such drivel don't understand that. I say you did nothing wrong in replying to all. After all, she was the one who left everyone's email for all to see.

I also find it interesting that people think they an just say stuff like this (and if they feel it's worthy of forwarding, then it can be assumed the agree with each and every point made) and NOT get a response. It's as if they have never heard the word "debate" before. Also disturbing that the simply assume everyone agrees with them.

Perhaps you could give your sister-in-law a copy of Gore's new book.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 08:09 PM
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2. I must be lucky, I don't get any chain hate emails. n/t
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 08:17 PM
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3. I think I have pissed off all my rw friends
They don't send me the hate emails anymore. :cry:
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 08:21 PM
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5. I keep getting them whether I like it or not
So maybe I'd just better shut up and get with the program. Even my wife is pissed at me for objecting.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 08:34 PM
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7. Did you see what kiteinthewind did?
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 09:08 PM
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10. Sure! What kiteinthewind did was perfect!
Unfortunately, my wife's friend nor her brother...or my sister's friend...can be fired for their actions...they only scream louder. ;(
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 08:32 PM
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6. I used to get them, but I would hit reply all and debunk the letters...
I told them if they don't want to hear the real truth, don't send this crap to me.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 08:54 PM
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8. kicked - she did a fantastic job
recommended
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 09:05 PM
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9. That Was An Unbelievable Series Of Events There. Absolute Hats Off To kiteinthewind.
Huge K&R for that. It was communicated maturely and intelligently and was a spot on response to something that hate filled. Huge kudos to her. HUGE.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 10:06 PM
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12. Yes, she did an awesome job.
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 09:58 PM
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11. k&r...n/t
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 10:09 PM
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13. Thanks for the head's up!
Bookmarked for future reference.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 11:44 PM
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14. That was awesome, thanks for sharing.
:hi:
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 12:09 AM
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15. I got a revolting letter about the 'lack of gratitude' the (black) people of
New Orleans displayed toward the (white) people who were there to help them. It came with the addie of the head of a hospital training school in Mississippi. I wrote to the hospital and the faculty senate. They took care of it very well, I must tell you. Step in if they give you a handle. You will save a lot of people trauma. RV, still rinsing my brain over the e-mail.
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Sweet Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 07:44 AM
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16. When I click on your link
it says Missing Topic. (I'll try again later.)

However, I wanted to add, for those who don't know, that DU has a group for debunking propaganda:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=284

I would like to encourage all of our members to use this tool. It makes it easier to find and quickly debunk these e-mails. :hi:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 10:33 AM
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18. WTF?
It had a ton of recommends! Why was it removed?
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 11:35 AM
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23. If it's the thread I'm thinking of
I'd guess it was pulled because at the end of the OP, the person's private home address and telephone number was listed. Hard to think of a reason for doing that, unless it was a veiled invitation to harass them.

Such personal info posting is against DU rules.

(not a mod, I just play one on tv)
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 11:39 AM
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24. LOL, you play such a great mod
I guess I don't remember that part at the end. Thanks for solving the mystery. :)
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 10:36 AM
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19. I received the same message.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 01:00 PM
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28. see post #25
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entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 10:40 AM
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20. I get a "Missing topic" when I click that link
n/t
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 01:00 PM
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29. see reply #25
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stirlingsliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 10:51 AM
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21. "Missing Topic"
When I try to follow the link in your post, I get a message saying that the topic is missing.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 01:01 PM
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30. see reply #25
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 11:23 AM
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22. Can you recap for those of us who missed it?
Seems the thread has been pulled.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 11:42 AM
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25. She got a hate chain letter in an email
It was about Muslims. The woman who started the chain letter sent it from her work email. So kiteinthewind googled the name of the company she worked for and emailed the boss asking if the company approved of this woman using their email address to send out racist emails.

Lots of back and forth followed. The owner of the company was appalled and told the employee to apologize. Employee apologized, but just for using her work email, not for the contents of the email.

Anyway, end of story - the woman no longer is employed there.
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 11:49 AM
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26. Thank you!
Not sure how I feel about that response, but I suppose it's a good lesson about not using your work email to catapult your propaganda.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 11:51 AM
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27. You can also alter them to make them completely crazy. - n/t
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