ok, ok.....we are NOT worse than freepers

[Gato Moteado]

and thanks to those who understood what i was really trying to say in that thread. and thanks to those who misinterpreted my poorly written piece and responded anyway. even if you're mad at me or hate me now, i still like you!

i absolutely think that our system of government has become so corrupt and rigged in favor of the big corporations that we need to discuss what it is we can do to overhaul it. same goes for the media...our public airwaves. GOTV, etc is great and i would never downplay the hard work all of the great DUers and other people on the left have done and continue to do to try to bring about change. but we have to realize that the system is so bad that we need to rebuild it. corporate money needs to be taken away from a system that is supposedly "of the people, by the people and for the people". i mean, seriously, knowing what we know about how our government is run, don't you just want to laugh when you see the phrase "of the people, for the people, and by the people"? or maybe you want to cry. i want to know "which people?". it's as ridiculous of a claim as fox news' "fair and balanced". you have to look around at people that buy into garbage like that and realize they aren't sane. i want to live in a world ruled by sanity.

first things first. we need a free and fair media if we are to have an informed populus and a real democracy. so, does anyone have any ideas how we can begin to pry our public airwaves from the clutches of corporate control?

we need change....radical change.

i'd love to see a discussion or exchange of ideas about how we can all band together and change the system rather than trying to work within one in which we, the true majority, can't win.

what are your thoughts?

and one more thing:
DUers rock.
freeptards are garbage.

[bryant69]

1. I think along with cleaning up the airwaves

(and the only way we can do that is construct alternate networks), we need campaign finance reform - for real. We need complete public financing of campaigns, and redistricting to eliminate the current gerrymandering.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[Gato Moteado]

2. no doubt campaign finance reform is top priority

isn't it comical to see politicians, especially repukes, always coming out against campaign finance reform? they're basically admitting that they are crooked little puppets.

[depakid]

3. "does anyone have any ideas"

Sure.

Reinstate the rules that were applied successfully for 50 years prior to the Reagan Administration and apply them to cable as well.

Divest (deconsolidate) and reregulate. Put teeth in license non-renewals (that's called "accountability").

[Donnachaidh]

4. we need to reinstate the MONOPOLY laws first.

Reagan wiped that protection off the map.

Once those laws are reinstated then we can start working towards a free and open media. And we can then go after every corporation that is buying up it's competitors.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

5. We must continue to build an alternative to MSM

(mainstream media). The internet appears to be the way to go with this; what we need to do now is to acquaint more and more people about what they can find via the Internet. Distribution of important documentaries is also important; I have a co-worker who was apolitical until a friend gave him "Loose Change"--now he totally distrusts Bushco.

[Gato Moteado]

8. is loose change a reputable documentary?

is that the one where they said on 911 the real airliners were diverted thru denver airport and the passengers killed by government agents?

the internet is great but the same types of problems are found here as much as on the mainstream news. there's plenty of misinformation here. we really need our public airwaves cleaned up so that people without internet access can be assured to receive accurate information via radio, tv and even newspapers.

[Az]

6. Unfortunately the response to your thread is part of the problem

DU responds just as emotionally as Freeper central. Its the nature of the beast. Go write a well phrased statement detailing what needs to be done and insult no one doing it and you will see the thread drop like a stone.

Contravercy makes a thread stick to the top and guarantees a ton of responses. Emotions. Emotions make things stick in our mind. Reason? Reason doesn't stand a chance against emotionalism. Reason is dry, boring, and unlikely to inspire. But reason is the only way to right this ship. Unfortunately emotions rule our time.

[Gato Moteado]

7. most of the people here probably share my frustrations....

....but there are certainly some here that would rather act as PC police and parse everything you say without looking at the point or misinterpret something and shove it back in your face. they'd rather pretend they were attacked and then attack back instead of actually exchanging ideas. there was plenty of that in that thread. but i think plenty of people got what i was trying to say.

[leftofthedial]

9. we have no government

just a filter that protects the corporations and their money (and the oligarchs who own and control them) from accountability

we do need a complete overhaul

we need a complete purge in DC. only a handful of DCers are worth keeping

[Gato Moteado]

10. exactly! see if you can determine what's wrong with the responses to this....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2879579

this is exactly the kind of thing i was talking about in the thread where i got so much heat from uptight people here. this is exactly it. how can we say we're actually doing something if we let pirates get away with this kind of destruction. people here think the way to fight back is to lob insults at the puppet chimp. go figure.