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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 05:22 PM Original message |
It takes 450 pounds of corn to make 25-gallons of ethanol |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
1. How many pounds of petroleum does it take to make 25 gal. of gas? |
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MazeRat7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. WTF ? Just wanted to be first and kinda had a brain fart ??? - LOL |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 05:42 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Why? |
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MazeRat7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 06:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
27. Because there is no market definition of "surplus" since the ethanol-craze... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 06:24 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Hmm. |
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MazeRat7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 07:22 PM Response to Reply #29 |
40. No, it's in soda because its cheap....(for now).... |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
2. or one Big Mac. |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
3. How many pounds of corn does it take to make methane? |
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Chemical Bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 06:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
36. Actually, you can feed it to the cows afterwards. n/t |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 06:58 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Interesting. |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
4. But what other products do they get out of that 450 lbs of corn? |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
5. Thank you. I wonder if BushCO didn't hold out that carrot to enthuse rural folks. n/t |
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Parche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
6. Too Corny |
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blues90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
7. Hardly seems worth the effort - |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
8. The corn mash left after fermentation can still be fed to cattle. |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
9. Rather the cash go to farmers, ADM, whomever.. |
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smtpgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 05:53 PM Response to Reply #9 |
22. Yep, there are farm subsudies already for corn, soybeans and |
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sakabatou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
11. Whatever happened to switchgrass? |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 05:43 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. Also sugar cane stacks are another potential source but we still |
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Auggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 06:34 PM Response to Reply #11 |
33. Miscanthus -- a tropical grass -- is causing quite a stir |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
12. Yep. Another boondoggle. n/t |
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durrrty libby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
13. One would think the geniuses could come up with something better |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
14. How many BTUs of heat are required to make one BTU from ethanol? |
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smtpgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 05:59 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. E85 burns at a faster rate that pure petroleum |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 06:02 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. What does that have to do with anything? |
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smtpgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 08:02 PM Response to Reply #25 |
41. So what gets wasted are the nutrients in the soil buckethead |
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smtpgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 08:48 AM Response to Reply #25 |
42. If more fuel is burned, then more fuel is used, thus |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
15. But do you know |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
17. I have heard that sugar cane is far better than corn and has been incredibly successful in Brazil. |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
19. should feed the corn to animals and collect their poop for methane! |
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anotherCTliberal (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 06:22 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. Vermont has an initiative for what you are suggesting |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 06:54 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. and no more exploding outhouse jokes |
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smtpgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
20. Again, the US wants to destroy more land for corn. Corn |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
21. Growing switchgrass for cellulosic alcohol is better. |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
24. Which, at about 7 pounds per gallon would weight about 175 pounds - the rest is hog feed |
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juno jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
26. It's the fact that all other use of corn is about to grind to a halt to service those SUV's |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 06:26 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Diversify, |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
31. And 100 gallons of fresh water are used to make that same 25 gallons of ethanol |
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Matsubara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
32. Of course. Ethanol is no energy solution at all. |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
34. The problem with corn ethanol is the non-renewable energy used |
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LostInAnomie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
35. Anything to get us away from oil... |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
38. That'd be a big ol ear of corn, that would |
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