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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 06:58 PM Original message |
Al Gore's Greatest Lapse in Judgment Ever! And I Mean, Ever. |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
1. I concur. |
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yourout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
2. Without a doubt. |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
3. I think Gore felt at the time that he could net the middle-of-the-road Democrats/centrists with Joe |
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movonne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
4. I really don't believe that he picked him....just think if Gore had a |
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Journeyman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 07:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. So you think someone else makes Gore's decisions for him? . . . |
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movonne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 08:51 PM Response to Reply #10 |
48. I think the powerful DLC could have pushed him on Gore..just a thought.. |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 10:10 PM Response to Reply #10 |
62. Cheney picked himself as Bush's running mate! |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 11:13 AM Response to Reply #4 |
83. That's the sense I got |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
5. If Gore had won in '00, I'm convinced we'd have President Lieberman by now |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 07:05 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. I don't see how. Either Al would have won a second term or a Republican would have won. |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 10:58 AM Response to Reply #5 |
81. I agree, big Al wouldn't have lasted through the first year. |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 11:00 AM Response to Reply #81 |
82. His biggest lapse may be that he does not support impeachment. |
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muntrv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
6. Undoubtedly. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
7. Joe is an interesting contradiction |
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frogcycle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 10:31 PM Response to Reply #7 |
66. agreed |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
8. I agree - and it is very baffling . . . |
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Jonathan50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
9. My eyes... |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
11. Even though I wasn't entirely comfortable with Gore's pick, in 2000, to say that it's his... |
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datadiva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
12. That's a fact |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
13. Yeah, now that was an assault on reason. |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 07:06 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. LOL! |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 07:17 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. I think your post was more of an Assault on Reason. |
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LSparkle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
15. Yup ... I'll bet he regrets that decision BIG TIME now. |
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dave29 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
16. It was his way of saying FU to Clinton |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 07:09 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. It was his way of swinging Florida... |
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Jim Warren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 07:12 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Better he had Jeb Bush |
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wakeme2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 07:29 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. But Bob Graham would have landslided Florida |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 07:37 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Which probably makes the case for the idea that at least part of Gore's... |
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wakeme2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 07:45 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. 80% of Florida's 60,000 Muslim-Americans voted for BUSH |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 07:47 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Yeah, and Florida jews voted for Buchanan. |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 07:51 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. No, no. I'm saying that Bob Graham would have been a good pick but Joe... |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 07:42 PM Response to Reply #18 |
29. Fridays Child - I truly admire your consistency... |
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Fridays Child (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 08:34 PM Response to Reply #29 |
44. Yep. He won it both ways. |
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stlsaxman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 06:54 PM Response to Reply #29 |
96. This is a photo of the EXACT moment the 2000 Election was stolen- |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 09:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
49. Except Lieberman's policy twin and close, longtime friend is Bill Clinton. |
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cmkramer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 06:00 AM Response to Reply #16 |
76. I went back and read the speech not too long ago |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
19. I'm still kicking myself for voting for that SOB in 2000. Who knew what |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 07:18 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Gore endorsed Dean in the primaries, NOT liberman in 2004, that says everything |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
22. Remember 2004 when lieberman was running. Gore didn't endorse him |
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Peregrine Took (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
24. As I recall one of his daughters advised him to go with Lieberman. n/t |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
25. When Gore announced Lieberman as his pick, I remember going, HUH? |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
27. I was dreading this post |
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bleever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 09:28 PM Response to Reply #27 |
58. At least the Republicans can't use it against him |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
31. Sigh. Yep. |
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iamahaingttta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
32. It was a different world back then. |
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pink-o (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
34. I blame Tipper and Donna Brazille |
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pansypoo53219 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
36. you just know |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
37. Where are all the Holy Joe supporters? Oh, that's right. There was just one... |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
38. Frickin' A |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 08:05 PM Response to Original message |
39. Ditto |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 08:05 PM Response to Original message |
40. There is no debating that one! |
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RestoreGore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
41. And dredging up the past is so relevant now |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
42. True! Next worst: Donna Brazile. |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 08:35 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. I would have to second your second, DemBones DemBones |
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Dukkha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
43. He probably sees him like a bad ex-girlfriend |
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Malikshah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
46. Gore was still to entangled with the DLCers at the time. Lieberman |
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PBass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
47. Forget about policy and the hawkishness, |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
50. LOL |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
51. Yep! |
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Swede (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
52. Now that is an inconvenient truth. |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
53. Oh Man... Has Anybody Contemplated What Holy Joe Would Say If... |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
54. He obviously took the advice of some "expert" who said it would guarantee him the Jewish vote. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
55. A primary reason why I voted Nader that year |
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European Socialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
56. Beating up Ross Perot over NAFTA ranks right up there, too. |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 10:29 PM Response to Reply #56 |
65. NAFTA is it for me |
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bleever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
57. That's what I was hoping you'd say. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
59. in retrospect, it was a mistake |
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BadGimp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
60. as a friend would say: "That's an Ultimate Truth" |
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Schema Thing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
61. It shows a stunning lack of good political instinct, imo |
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stlsaxman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
63. CORRECTION: Gore's ONLY lapse in judgment ever! And I mean EVER! |
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ToeBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 10:40 PM Response to Reply #63 |
70. Don't forget NAFTA! n/t |
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stlsaxman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 05:38 AM Response to Reply #70 |
75. sorry, did Gore sign Nafta into law or Clinton? |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 09:17 AM Response to Reply #63 |
80. I disagree |
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stlsaxman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 06:23 PM Response to Reply #80 |
93. y'know I think that a man can get a LITTLE bit of redemption for his activities since he supported |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 01:12 PM Response to Reply #63 |
85. "Flawless" |
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stlsaxman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 05:55 PM Response to Reply #85 |
92. you noticed, huh? |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
64. yep |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
67. I gotta agree - that really bit the party in the ass |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
68. I'm thinking more along the lines of this: |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
69. Yes, but it's important to remember that the circumstances of 2000 were a Universe away from where |
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InvisibleTouch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
71. Sad but true. |
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sakabatou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
72. D'oh! |
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Patchuli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
73. Don't forget his 2000 Campaign Manager!! nt |
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flaminbats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-12-07 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
74. his position on healthcare reform in 2000 was a huge failure.. |
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Dragonbreathp9d (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
77. I saw him for the rat bastard he was back then |
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northernsoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
78. #2 was marrying PMRC Tipper |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 01:17 PM Response to Reply #78 |
86. Like they said, she's less than a friend to the arts. |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 01:18 PM Response to Reply #78 |
87. Marrying Tipper was Al's best move ever. (ever). |
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stlsaxman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 06:38 PM Response to Reply #87 |
95. Thank you, Sir! |
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lpbk2713 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
79. If it weren't for that I'm sure he'd be in his second term right now. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
84. And, the greatest lapse in judgement that ultimately led to this lapse > |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
88. I knew what it would be before I even clicked on the link - and I agree |
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hippiechick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
89. ... but now we must ask, was it *his* judgement ... |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-14-07 10:48 AM Response to Reply #89 |
97. Dem powerstructure forced it, imo. Joe's policies match Bill Clinton's to a tee. |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
90. "President’ Lieberman: A Cautionary Tale" By Robert Scheer |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
91. With benefit of hindsight, yes, but judgment must be exercised at |
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rec_report (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-13-07 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
94. K&R. n/t |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-14-07 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
98. Nearly drove me from the party |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-14-07 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
99. I was disappointed and perplexed when he chose him. |
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