Secular Progressives check in!

[Zomby Woof]

The loudmouthed psychotic Bill O'Reilly throws around the term like it was an epithet. To me, it's an honorable label which we should use with pride. Being a secular progressive means we embrace the humanistic ideals of reason, justice, equality, freedom, and progress.

Freedom in its truest sense. We're free of superstition and unreasonable fear. We define freedom differently than he and his fellow ideologues, who see freedom as the inalienable right to fuck over others, consume more material goods and resources than they possibly could ever use, deny others healthcare, offer work for low wages, mask their racism as "immigration reform", or just otherwise be jingoistic chest-beating yahoos about the world in general.

Those non-secular reactionaries (not the most poetic of antonyms, but they don't deserve poetry) are people of authoritarian impulses, and are fear-ridden, superstitious, hostile to reason, science, and the humane treatment of other people and other species. Their defense of raping civil liberties, their support of torture, and their constant need to force the rest of us to bow before their invisible sky-deity is beyond mere annoyance or irritation.

So it is time to embrace being secular and progressive as virtues worth praising openly and aggressively. SP's unite! :7

[ananda]

1. Secular liberal leftie here!

I spose that includes progressive .. but more.

[johnfunk]

2. Secular progressive present and accounted for!

As for Billo? He's the modern Father Coughlan...

[JHB]

3. A hand up here

It's just amazing how many people claim to worship a guy who stressed faith, humility, and forgiveness yet manage to display none of those traits.

[Ganja Ninja]

4. Freedom loving American here.

Sweet Jesus I hate Bill O'Reilly.

[bryant69]

5. Secular when it comes to politics at any rate

And hopefully progressive.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[ThomCat]

6. I'm here.

:hi:

[More Than A Feeling]

7. A secular progressive is a wonderful thing to be.

I think O'Reilly misfired on that one. I doubt it will immediately arouse hostility the way other epithets the right has come up with for us.

[wryter2000]

8. Proud SP here

Oaktown is full of them. :bounce:

[Arugula Latte]

9. Yo!

Present! :hi:

[IChing]

10. Religion is the frozen thought of man

out of which they build temples.

Billo, Hitler and Mussolini etc are only the primary spokesmen
for the attitude of domination and craving for power that are
in the heart of almost everyone. Until the source is cleared,
there will always be confusion and hate, wars and class antagonisms.

It is no measure of health
to be well adjusted
to a profoundly sick society.


Checking in.

[liberalEd]

11. I am a secular progressive

I don't care how Billo spits it out, it's a compliment as far as I'm concerned.

[geomon666]

12. Hi

:hi:

[alfredo]

13. I got my membership card in the mail today.

[catmandu57]

14. Checking in

I used to be called a secular humanist whatever that was, if they want to call me a secular progressive now that's fine by me.

[Solly Mack]

15. Solly the Secular

teehee


Oh, leave me alone or I shall taunt you

Help! Help! I'm being repressed

[Az]

16. Card carrying Secular Humanist liberal progressive checking in SIR!

:hi:

[EstimatedProphet]

17. I'd call myself a secular progressive

I do believe in god, I just don't masturbate to his image.

[Az]

19. Thats fine

You don't need to be an atheist to see the wisdom of governance of the people being a matter of the people.

[EstimatedProphet]

30. Exactly

[Zomby Woof]

20. I like that motto

:D

Non-secular progressives are included with SP's by default, since I am sure O'Reilly and his minions do not consider non-masturbating believers to be the "real" kind.

[GreenPartyVoter]

25. Same here. I am a thinking spiritual person and have waaaaay more

in common with my secular brethren who weigh everything than the lockstep blind religious reich.

[Desertrose]

18. Don't know if thats me or not, but....

:hi: and Happy (belated) Birthday!
Hope all is good:)

:hug: :party:
:loveya:
:party:
:toast:
:bounce: :bounce:
:hug::loveya:
DR

[Zomby Woof]

21. Of course it's you!

If you don't believe in O'Reilly's extremely narrow definition of a bearded white deity, then you are SECULAR. :P

Thanks DR! I am 40! Weeeeee! :woohoo: :D :hug: :loveya:

[Desertrose]

27. No way!! Are you serious?!!

I mean being 40 not the other crap.
Dang...guess so. Well hope ya partied good,dude. I mean bad...well you know.
:woohoo::hug:

O'Reilly who? :evilgrin:
Don't get me started on that nutjob.....:grr:

:loveya:DR

[Zomby Woof]

32. I am NEVER serious about that other crap

:P

Yep! I was but a young sprout of 35 when I first checked out AZ, lol.

We spent the weekend in San Diego, my birthplace. Made the traditional drive-by of my grandparents' house and spent some time in the sunshine of Mission Bay Park. It's one beautiful place, San Diego. B-)

Maybe we'll surprise you with a visit to Sedona this year! :bounce:

[Az]

58. You checking me out?!?

:rofl:

[Zomby Woof]

60. HAHAHA!!!!

From your Grand Canyon to your prickly cacti! :rofl:

[Warren DeMontague]

22. Reporting For Duty!

http://www.cafepress.com/impeachw.103974923

I'm also socially or left-libertarian, there's another word that gives certain authoritarian-minded people hives. :o

[ProfessorGAC]

23. You Can Count Me In

I'm a "nothing". Not a person of faith. Not an atheist. Not an agnostic. I just don't care. If i'm right; don't care. If i'm wrong; don't care.
GAC

[Zomby Woof]

33. That's along my lines of thought

I rarely ever describe myself as an atheist because it lends itself to a dogma of its own kind at times.

[nini]

24. I'll be anything that pisses Billo off

:D

[Zomby Woof]

28. See my reply to Desertrose!

"Secular" includes EVERYONE here, lol. :D

(Litterbox transition complete - Kiko watched with utter fascination, but he hasn't broken it in yet!) :o

[nini]

39. LOL

I'm sure he will soon.. open all the windows!!!

:nuke:

[TechBear_Seattle]

26. Secular liberal right here! n/t

[Mandate My Ass]

29. far left fringe feminazi commie pinko checking in

and secular progressive too. BTW, Loofah O'Lielly can blow me. :patriot:

[no_hypocrisy]

31. Here I am.

I refuse to be locked into a label.

I'm a Humanist, atheist, freethinker, and Unitarian.

[GeorgeGist]

34. They hate us ...

for our freedom from their vapid deceptions.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

35. I'm Not Sure Of The Technical Meaning You're Implying.

Do you mean being a progressive or democrat that doesn't believe in religion, or a progressive or democrat that is religious and has faith in God but doesn't let that faith intersect with their politics? I'm not sure exactly what the specifics are to your question.

[Name removed]

37. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

43. I Asked You An Innocent Question. Your Response Was Pathetic.

Not sure why you answered like such an ass.

Your OP was about more than O'Reilly. You put some other stuff in there that went far broader than him alone. Why were you so sensitive about being asked for clarity about what exactly you meant? If this was just a "if you're a democrat you're an SP cause O'Reilly says so" thread, then why all the other stuff you put in the OP? That's the only reason I asked for some clarity, because I wasn't sure how deep you intended the context to go.

But to get all huffy puffy and attacking, and calling me a freeper and all that other immature bunk, is pretty pathetic in response to a genuine question. Get a grip.

[jus_the_facts]

61. "Not sure why you answered like such an ass."

:rofl:

[Az]

42. Secular refers to the method of Governance

A sectarian approach to Governance attempts to combine religious doctrine with law. Secular eschews religious doctrine and instead leaves matters of Governance to the people based on the needs of people rather than the utterances of the divine.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

45. Yes, I Understand That. I Just Wasn't Sure How The OP Was Using It And Wanted To Check.

Just because a definition exists, doesn't mean that all people use it in context correctly. :)

[Zomby Woof]

47. Are you the Christian-bashing police?

It is typical of the paranoia about such I have seen you display all too often.

I am sure you combed my OP very carefully for any sign that I am out to get christians! :eyes:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

53. Dude, Take A Chill Pill. My God! Paranoia May Destroy Ya.

:rofl:

[Az]

48. Semantics is unfortunately much more important than one would wish it to be

;)

[Jonathan50]

73. It seems this is my week to disagree with you, AZ

I wish semantics were *more* important.

It is a lack of rigorous semantics that allows the Republicans to get away with smearing those who do not share their views.

[Az]

84. I am not dismissing the importance of semantics

I am lamenting the fact that so often such things can prove to be the primary burden in a conversation. More often than not great disagreements come from the fact that two participants have a different understanding of the context. It would be very nice if that were not the case. But getting the semantics ironed out is typically the most important aspect of the conversation.

[jus_the_facts]

36. Sweet FUCKIN' Jesus.... I HATE BILL O'REILLY!!!!!!11

:D



:hi:

[Zomby Woof]

38. LOL!!!!

Stephanie Miller mentioned that book on the air yesterday. :rofl: :hi:

[jus_the_facts]

49. Sweet Jesus, I hate Bill O'Reilly, International..... their mission statement... hehehe...

:7

Sweet Jesus, I hate Bill O'Reilly, International is an organization
dedicated to the dissemination of information that exposes Bill O'Reilly
for what he is: an ego-driven, biased individual who spreads fear, hate
and misunderstanding. While he sees himself as a culture warrior, his
views are firmly anchored to the political right. He works tirelessly to
enrage Americans and pit them against anything he considers "liberal"
or, worse yet, "secular". Mr. O'Reilly uses highly manipulative forms of
presentation, phrasing and, yes, "spin". Also, he's completely nuts.

http://sweetjesusihatebilloreilly.com/

...they even have a myspace account!!! :D

[Zomby Woof]

50. "Also, he's completely nuts."

LO fucking L! :rofl:

[Quantess]

40. Count me in!

Great post! I'd like to add: I don't appreciate insincere "Christians" who say they're so religious just to enhance their image. Hypocrites, and all that..

[flakey_foont]

41. Reporting for duty

[SusanaMontana41]

44. I'm in

and proud to be on one of O'Lielly's enemies lists.

[blondeatlast]

46. Secular progressive believer here. nt

[KansDem]

51. You may include me...

Freedom in its truest sense. We're free of superstition and unreasonable fear. We define freedom differently than he and his fellow ideologues, who see freedom as the inalienable right to fuck over others, consume more material goods and resources than they possibly could ever use, deny others healthcare, offer work for low wages, mask their racism as "immigration reform", or just otherwise be jingoistic chest-beating yahoos about the world in general.

Just last week I spotted a bumper sticker that read something like, "Conservative and Proud to be Everything that Annoys Liberals." I thought of a list similar to the one you give here. I thought, "So you're anti-free speech, anti-civil rights, anti-choice, anti-affordable health, anti-environment, anti-anti-lie for war, etc. etc. etc. I really couldn't think of anything a conservative would be proud to be in this day and age!

[Greyskye]

52. Secular Progressive Humanist checking in

Bill'O can bite me!

[annabanana]

54. I'm a secular progressive AND an Episcopalian...

stupid term....

[StudentsMustUniteNow]

55. Religious progressive n/t

[mudesi]

56. Secular LIBERAL, checking in! (nm)

[ChairmanAgnostic]

57. Present, sir!

and accounted for.

[kimmylavin]

59. Present! n/t

[eppur_se_muova]

62. Secular Progressive is a GREAT title to wear!

O'Reilly's aim is as good as ever, that is to say, nonexistent.

[WindRavenX]

63. Another godless SP here!

:)

[Hell Hath No Fury]

64. On board!

Reporting from the Secular Progressive headquarters of San Francisco! :hi:

[Pastiche423]

65. Secular, that's me

[RiverStone]

66. Secularily yours...

With ya there! :)


RiverStone~

[roguevalley]

67. Flaming liberal secular progressive who believes in and loves

God. I want the Old Republic back and O'Reily in jail. Not necessarily in that order. :)

[Bluebear]

68. That would be me! nt

[Bragi]

69. Need a secular humanist?

I'm here to apply for the job.

- B

[blm]

70. Raising a hand here.

.

[hfojvt]

71. Is there a shortage of them here?

What about non-secular progressives?

[Seabiscuit]

72. Here! How can anyone imagine us "secular progressives" to be a "bad thing"???

[Forkboy]

74. You rang?

:)

[LeftishBrit]

75. I am a secular progressive too!

I'd say that it's more accepted in the UK, however. E.g. we got our first openly atheist MP in 1880, and plenty of current MPs are atheists or agnostics - my MP is an official in the National Secular Society.

[Mrs. Overall]

76. Here!

[me b zola]

77. Yoo-hoo, here I am!

:hi:

[Danascot]

78. To all of you who posted to this thread:

You're MY kind of people! I'm in good great company here!

:hi: :party: :toast: :loveya: :grouphug: :pals: :yourock: :applause: :woohoo:

[Ishoutandscream2]

79. That be me!!

At your service!

[Coexist]

80. here!

[LBJDemocrat]

81. Christian progressive here n/t

[Kingshakabobo]

82. YO!

[sutz12]

83. I'll wear that label with pride....along with most of our founding fathers. nt

[KamaAina]

85. Can I be a secular progressive even though I go to church most weeks?

Extenuating circumstances: It's a Religious Science church. Its beliefs would be described as "New Thought", though ignorant knuckledraggers have been known to confuse us with (gulp) Scientology. :scared:

So since it's clearly a godless, heathen church :sarcasm: -- all we need is Fred Phelps and his "Fag Church" sign to prove it -- can I still play? Please?

[eridani]

86. Some religious people are secular also

They are the ones who hold what they have in common ethically with people of different faiths or no faith at all higher than they hold their own particular beliefs.

[ProgressiveAmPatriot]

90. If you believe in God, you are not secular! (where do people come up with such ideas???)

Religion is faith based, a belief in something for which there is no rational evidence. Part of religion is a belief in the superiority of your religion. What would be the point of Christianity if Jesus wasn't considered special? If all Gods are equal to God, there is no God in the Christian sense. Many religious progressives adopt secular viewpoints, such as supporting world religion classes which do not make value judgments on various religions, but present their theology and culture. However, these progressives have not given up the intolerance that is at the heart of religion, they have simply ceased to act on it in the modern world. I know many progressive Christians, who share my political views, they are in many ways secular in their political outlook, and yet I (and Unitarians who are the closest to practicing what you are describing) go to hell in the end according to them. If you are a "secular Unitarian," recognize that religion is purely faith based, and believe that no religion has the monopoly on the truth, become an atheist or agnostic already for Christ sake. Because as long as you lend religious faith credence, it will pose a threat to the secular world. As long as you teach that faith alone is ample evidence for belief, you can't call religious conservatives crazy.

[flying rabbit]

87. Word

to the Darwin fish

[Tyo]

88. Godless, left wing, pusher of the gay agenda here

O'Lielly can bite me.

[dkofos]

89. If oriley thinks it's bad, it must be good.