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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 09:36 AM Original message |
Questions about single payer National Healthcare (peek inside) |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 09:40 AM Response to Original message |
1. "If?" The loss might be more than made up in drastically reduced administrative and |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 09:48 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. I am part of PNHP and I was on the phone to the executive administrator |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 09:52 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. I did answer your questions. I may not be a physician, but have |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 10:00 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Thanks for your reply, you didn't really answer the questions |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 10:09 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Would it be fair for the doctors? |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 10:11 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. awesome, thanks. Energy reform is my issue, but healthcare is #2 |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
2. oh let's take it back to *the poor doctor's" argument |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 09:44 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I suspect that's the next talking points we'll be hearing--methinks that a meme is being floated |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 09:54 AM Response to Reply #3 |
9. I'm not floating a meme, I'm just trying to get some progressive thinker |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 09:58 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Okay, sorry. Now would your respond at leaswt to my points re: administrative costs? nt |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 10:09 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. It's simple, if you cut out administrative overhead, you will save money |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 10:15 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. I think they can if you educate them a bit. I've been insulin dependent for |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
4. PNHP |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 09:49 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. read post #5 |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
6. A) I don't think the Dr & Nurse salaries would be much impacted |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 09:57 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Exactly. I'm more than willing to let my doctor (and each one of them is RICH) |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
10. You should have heard the DR. Thom Hartmann had on a few days |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 10:04 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. That's awesome, and that's what I'm encouraging PNHP to talk about |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
19. The first two questions are loaded. |
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Giant Robot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 11:20 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Thank you for the rational reply |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. For me, it's rather simple. If your kid breaks her arm, the first thought in your head should be |
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Giant Robot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 11:54 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Right now I am thinking |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #19 |
30. Nice response, thanks. |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 12:56 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. They are loaded in the sense that it's a framing for those opposed to single payer |
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stirlingsliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
20. Screw The Doctors! |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 12:38 PM Response to Reply #20 |
31. This is a different matter, but let me illuminate. |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
23. What a bizzare post... |
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Giant Robot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 11:59 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. I agree with a lot of what you say in your post |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 01:59 PM Response to Reply #23 |
42. What the heck is this supposed to mean? |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 03:10 PM Response to Reply #42 |
53. Not many of you guys left... |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
26. I understand your question, but I think the premise is faulty |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 12:42 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. I have no premise. It might be that physician/nurse salaries could go up. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 01:04 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. I don't think it's politician like -- it's that most have read Paul Krugman |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. I love Paul Krugman, one of my favorites :) |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 01:36 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. You have no premise? |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
27. I imagine we'll hear this quite a bit from people opposing |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
28. a doctor's right to obscene pay is not more important to my right to life itself |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 12:45 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Wow. I thought this was Democratic Underground. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #28 |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. You sound like a bully |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 02:06 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. I'm a bully and universal health care will cost too much. |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
29. I agree that "the question is a researchable one".... |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Research has proven difficult, I've thus far been unable to find... |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 12:53 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Yes, I read your post. n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 02:02 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. This isn't the kind of discussion board for people to shout people down |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 02:06 PM Response to Reply #44 |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 02:33 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. You are wrong, though you may not know it. Read all of my posts |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 02:51 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. What part of "You are perpetuating lies while pretending to be concerned" |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 03:19 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. No, I just think you are being hateful and I'm not sure why. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 03:22 PM Response to Reply #40 |
56. As of last year, the Iraq War was costing $10 million per hour |
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some guy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
47. answers |
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Bread and Circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 02:30 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Sweet, thanks for the reply. I agree with you on all points. |
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some guy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 03:05 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. except for |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
50. Re the salaries - |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
54. Phrase it like this: |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
57. The question is pointless |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 04:22 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Indeed--it was the phrasing that made me think "industry." nt |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
58. OOOOOOH--I love this, gang... (link to another DU thread): |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
60. There was a doctor on Thom Hartmann's program yesterday, who worked both in |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
61. While lower MD salaries are an admitted possibility |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-15-07 05:15 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Well, in other countries, med school is tuition free to |
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