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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 11:43 PM
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"Hold someone accountable today!" (A new meme.)
Pass it on, DU! We can make it heard around the internet(s) and the world!
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-16-07 11:52 PM
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1. We've got one K&R. We can send this message to Congress...
and to the American people!
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liberaldemocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 04:21 AM
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27. I have WORKED to hold Republican donors accountable since 1998.
I have WORKED to hold Republican donors accountable since 1998.

I hope you will join me.

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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 04:28 AM
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28. Let's make it our meme and work on it together...
This great forum's strength is its people, just as our party's is. Accountability is a righteous word and it's deserving of every one of us.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 09:44 PM
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70. Kick!
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 12:18 AM
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2. As In Hold Clinton and Edwards Accountable?
For their votes on the IWR, both 'Patriot' acts, permanent 'free' trade with China, and so forth?

Not gonna' happen - apparently,virtually nobody holds anyone accountable for their voting record anymore. The rhetoric du jour trumps all.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 12:22 AM
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5. Everyone should be held accountable, starting at the top...
and all the way down.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 05:09 AM
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69. Kicking this thread again.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 12:21 AM
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3. Exactly.
:toast:
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 12:25 AM
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6. Thank you, Pard.
:toast:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 12:38 AM
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8. If we don't have accountability, what do we have?
:kick:
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 12:58 AM
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9. Not a doggone thing, which is what this admin has done for us!
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 12:22 AM
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4. Actually, That's Not A Bad Bumpersticker At All.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 12:27 AM
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7. Thank you, and you know we can get it some cyberspace.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 01:14 AM
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10. Excellent idea, BikeWriter!
I am thoroughly sick of hearing "I don't recall," "I don't remember," "I'm not sure", and my personal hated favorite, "Mistakes were made."

Being accountable, and taking responsibility, is sometimes a difficult thing to do, but damnit, it's the ADULT thing to do! And if you don't want to be held accountable for what you do, then don't do anything wrong -- especially of the blatant type of wrong we have going on now.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 01:19 AM
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11. All we have to do is reflect on the IranContra felons that got off
Edited on Sun Jun-17-07 01:19 AM by sfexpat2000
and who are still in our government and see that NOT holding people accountable doesn't work.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 01:22 AM
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12. Exactly!
Jane and Joe Citizen can't get away with it (unless they are rich), so those in our government shouldn't either!
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 02:00 AM
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14. Damned right! They are still doing the crimes but not doing the time!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 02:29 AM
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15. Our current Sec of Defense did everything in his power
to shut down the Iran Contra investigations.

Eliot Abrams is still meddling, now having us fund militias in Gaza.

Negroponte is still free.

Criminals never held accountable, still screwing up policy, still getting people dead.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 02:44 AM
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16. Yes'm, it is high time for accountability in our government...
We need more recommendations!
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 01:58 AM
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13. Thank you, Ma'am! This MALadministration needs to be told...
You work for us and we are holding you accountable!
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 03:49 AM
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20. "You work for us...." Damn straight, yet so many of them seem to
forget that once they take office, and I include Dems as well as Repukes. Perhaps they all need to be sent a copy of the US Constitution. They so often seem to forget the "We the people..." part.

Hell, I have a copy that I refer to often; I'd be willing to send it to Bush. Oh, wait. Dictators don't need no freakin' Constitution. :grr:
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 03:59 AM
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23. Hey, Lady. I know you're right! I swore to protect that Constitution...
...in 1965, and these bastids are hell bent on destroying it for their puppet masters!
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 04:05 AM
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24. I know, and I am so angry about it.
I do love this country. I do NOT love what these bastids are doing to it. I am torn between :grr: and :cry: about it.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 04:11 AM
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26. I know, Dear,and many a night my beard has been wet with tears...
I love our America, and it's time we took it back from the corporations!
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 04:31 AM
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29. Exactly! And one of the ways to do that would be public financing
of elections. When candidates of ANY party take lots of money from corporations and special interest groups, you can't tell me they don't feel an obligation to do their bidding. Not to mention the fact that elected officials have to spend so damned much time now on campaining and raising money that they don't pay attention to We The People. (Unless we are one of the very rich.)

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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 04:35 AM
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31. Yes'm, election reform is imperative! If we organize effectively...
...we can force it! Our Congress is in our employ, not the corporations! They should answer to us.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 04:40 AM
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33. Heard an interview today on AAR with someone who supports
public financing (forgive me, I can't recall the gentleman's name). He said that in the states that do public financing, it has worked very well, and a number of candidates who opted in to it won. They got a lot of small donations, got matching money from the state, and it worked out well. AND, most importantly, they were not beholden to the ABC Widget Company or the XYZ Rob-You-Blind Corporation.

I really like that idea!
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 04:44 AM
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35. Yes'm, and every candidate would be elected on his or her...
performance, not on whose pork barrel project they supported.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 04:52 AM
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37. Absolutely. I am so disgusted at what is going on in this country
right now. Corporations are given the status of "individuals"????? Sheesh. I am so with Randi Rhodes. She says that when corporations have to undergo a prostate exam or a mammogram, THEN they could be considered "individuals." And the thing is, the corporations do not have the same accountability that individuals like Jane and John Q. Citizen have. THEY get to offshore their accounts. THEY get to fudge on their taxes. THEY get all kinds of breaks that Jane and John don't.

Sigh. Sometimes I feel like Alice, after she feel down the rabbit hole. x(
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 05:00 AM
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39. There are many of us who believe as you do. This country...
...could run efficiently on a fraction of what it costs now, if the pork generated by election promises and lobbyists were slashed.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 05:08 AM
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41. Amen to that!
This country needs to be returned to it's people. Most corporations don't care about We The People. I am not anti-capitalism; I am not against a company making a profit. But I am against corporations and their bottom lines taking precedence over the Everyman and Everywoman who inhabit this land.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 05:15 AM
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43. To your Amen, I can only add say Hallelujah! I am not religious...
...but I was raised in a religious family and I still feel some spirit now and then. Especially during righteous dialogues such as this one.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 05:17 AM
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44. I'm not religious either, in the traditional sense of the word, but
I think that anyone, regardless of belief, or non-belief, has the power to help do some good.

Sometimes, righteous dialogue, and righteous indignation, is a very good thing!
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 05:21 AM
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46. I know you're right, Lady, and I'd say my love of this country...
... and its patriots is the closest thing I have to religion today.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 05:27 AM
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48. You know, even though I'm Catholic (by choice, if you can believe that)
and have tried several other churches, I never last a long time with any organized religion. I do try to live by the Golden Rule, because I think it is a good one. To me, any good cause (and I mean good, as in supporting people in a positive way, among other things), is worthy of one's time and attention, whether that thing be associated with religion or not.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 05:43 AM
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51. I can grok that, and am receptive to water brothers and sisters....
...I do my best to respect the religion of everyone, except the arrogant and intolerant.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 04:32 AM
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30. I take it you are former military?
Pardon my ignorance. If so, what branch of the military were you in?
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 04:38 AM
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32. United States Air Force, here are my duty stations...
Lackland, AFB TX. 1965
Sheppard AFB TX. 1965-66
Ent AFB Colorado 1966-67
Pleiku AFB, Republic of VietNam 1967-68
Sparrevohn, AFS, Alaska 1968-69
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 04:41 AM
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34. Wow, I lived just outside Lackland, in the mid-70's. My ex was in
the Air Force for 4 years. He also served in England.

I thank you, sir, for your service, and for your continuing fight for this country we love.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 04:47 AM
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36. Thank you, Ma'am, and thank you for supporting our military...
...It is often our familys who suffered most.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 04:58 AM
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38. Oh, I know. The son of a friend of mine was in Iraq for 18 months.
It absolutely tore her up. Fortunately, she had a lot of people to lean on. I know that some families don't, or feel that they don't, and that is so wrong. I cannot imagine how horrible it would be to feel that you have to deal with having a loved one in a war zone all by yourself.

You know, one of the biggest things that is wrong about this war is that We The People have not been asked to do anything except go shopping. I'm not saying that there aren't people who DON'T do something, like volunteer at a VA hospital, be a shoulder for a military spouse, protest the war, etc. But what is missing is a President who asks for true sacrifice, true giving, from the citizens of this country. I believe absolutely that the Iraq War was and is the greatest political blunder in the history of this country, but even with that, if Bush could order the invasion, than he could also ask for something more substantial than SHOPPING on the part of American citizens. That man is fucked up beyond anything I've ever seen.

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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 05:03 AM
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40. Hee hee hee! Yes'm, but you see he was asking us to shop...
...at his corporate puppet master's stores.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 05:08 AM
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42. Oh, my bad!!!!
:rofl:
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 05:18 AM
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45. Ha ha ha ha ha! You have to understand * has priorities...
...they are all based on cash!
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 05:24 AM
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47. :snerk:!!!!!
Gives new meaning to the phrase "cash cow" huh?

Oh wait. Dubya doesn't HAVE any cows on the "ranch". :rofl:

And I hear he's afraid of horses!!!! :evilgrin:
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 05:34 AM
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49. Hee hee hee! I'd heard he'd leased cows from some real Texans...
...for stage props. He may have given that up after tripping on a few cow patties. I also heard he'd refused a horseback ride with Vicente Fox, but then you may have noticed Vicente is taller than Jorge. Oops, I did not mean to gossip, except our fearless leader is traumatized when in the presence of a taller male...
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 05:38 AM
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50. I heard that too. I'd like to see him try to milk a cow, except for the
fact that I'd feel sorry for the poor cow! :evilgrin:

You mean to say that Jorge has "Little Man" Syndrome? Who'da thunk it? :rofl:
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 05:50 AM
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52. Hee hee hee! Look at every picture he's in with GHW *...
The bastid son is two inches shorter and seething! Uh, another thing I think upsets junior... Poppy and Mommy... Well, I'll leave that to your imagination in the interests of the thread's longevity.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 02:56 AM
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17. Five votes! Get thee to the Greatest Page!
This IS a good one.

Like it a lot, BikeWriter:

"Hold someone accountable today!"
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 03:03 AM
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18. Thanks, calimary! BikeWriter is so right.
Edited on Sun Jun-17-07 03:04 AM by sfexpat2000
:kick:
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 03:35 AM
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19. Thank you, thank you, thank you! Calimary, you're in on it...
and it is moving!
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 03:55 AM
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21. Can you spell l-a-n-d-s-l-i-d-e? It starts rolling, and it gains momentum...
...and eventuallly it sweeps everything around it in and under. What we have to do is stay focused on one thing. Accountability!
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 03:57 AM
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22. Absolutely! And that means Dems, Repubs, Indies, Greens, etc.
Whoever happens to be in whichever office needs to be accountable. Period. End of sentence!
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 04:07 AM
Response to Reply #22
25. Again, Lady, you are on target!
We have the commitment, and we know what we have to do!
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 05:55 AM
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53. "Hold someone accountable today!" I just Googled it...
...and it brought me back to DU.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 11:10 AM
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54. GD or the Lounge?
lol
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 12:10 PM
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55. LOL! Actually the Lobby. :-)
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 12:19 PM
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56. Would somebody kick this up now and then? I'm accountable...
but I need to take a break for a bit. :)
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 12:53 PM
Response to Reply #56
57. kick
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 01:05 PM
Response to Reply #57
59. Thank you, Pard!
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MatrixEscape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 01:01 PM
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58. We The People!
We are the ones, all of us, you and me, who should be held totally accountable for what is going on. The blame and the buck stops here.

If we don't and can't take that, we then, (as we have been doing) only relinquish out power to the self-interests that only want to exploit our needs and takes us down a slippery slope to a form of total oblivion, be that personal, familial, or societal.

There is nobody to blame but those who buy what they are told to and watch what they are supposed to and believe what has been inserted into their minds from childhood on, never taking the time or enduring the pain and uncertainty of stopping to ask questions, think critically, and be willing to make important and powerful sacrifices to effect personal, and even, much larger, more impacting changes.

We grab at what we are taught to. We value what we are told is valuable. We allow ourselves to be inserted into comfortable, hermetically-sealed reality where all we can really say is "I could give a shit about it if it does not effect my comfort, wealth, or myopic self interests." The problem with that head-in-the-sand idealism is that it is just as vulnerable, in the long-term, as the paycheck to paycheck lives of the working poor, only with a delayed reaction. Do you really think, if you are in the xk to xk income bracket, (as opposed to insanely wealthy) that you are immune to the overall results that will effect all of us in the end? Think again. There is a line. There is a margin where you are able to be save and prosper or where you too will lose more than you imagined. Look back on the Great Depression, and as V2 looms, think about what you could do to wake up now and expand your self-interest to include more. Your selfishness could start to include those who do what you need to allow you to be so selfish in the first place. From there, much enlightenment can ensue. In fact, you might just see, barring the Elite controlling families who are obscenely wealthy and entrenched, we are all in this together and the downfall that you are contributing to in your bubble of delusion will certainly come if you don't start to open your eyes to a greater picture.

And We The Poor don't have any excuses either, if we are not so disaffected that we are totally homeless and raising our children out of automobiles rather than homes. We have to stop, look around, and wonder if our dire circumstances are merely serving to distract us, (with our day-to-day struggles and problems) from what it is that could actually lighten our load an bring us a better, more comfortable and secure life, in the end. And what a legacy that could be for our children, rather than a future of greater servitude and even lower expectations than we, ourselves, can imagine right now.

Our crises is of very great and tangible proportions right now. The course of events falls upon us, from the very poor and downtrodden to those who are well-off, but living in a virtual dream-world that is merely supported by circumstances than a substance with longevity. This is probably one of the most pivotal times in history and a strong awareness and reaction from the people could be substantial and effective. I only fear that the media, television, and the endless distractions of things to buy will prove to be our downfall by default. This is one of those times when going with and by the prescribed status quo is a certain path to a mutual form of destruction when it comes to what we all value and truly desire in a very deep and Existential sense.

The American People are failing their own system, one by one, and too many of them do not have a clue that this is the very map to the solution need so very badly in these tumultuous times.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 03:01 PM
Response to Reply #58
60. We the people can change it, too!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 03:03 PM
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61. Yes we can! Si se puede!
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 05:38 PM
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62. Thank you!
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-19-07 05:18 AM
Response to Reply #58
68. 21,000 posts
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momaloney Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 09:48 PM
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63. Ya Done Good Bike Writer!!
BW..you rock man!! Let's hope "Hold Someone Accountable today!" is running around
the internet and the world all week....keep banging away at it. I know I will be
adding it everywhere I go. This forum should hit all those "WE" miss!! ;)
Keep up the good work my friend....you are the best!

Moesie
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 12:05 AM
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64. Thank you, Sweety. It's getting some exposure. I hope it helps!
:hi:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 12:06 AM
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65. kick
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-18-07 03:33 PM
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66. Thank you.
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