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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 08:37 AM
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So just WHY is the US bee population being killed off by neoconitoids?
Edited on Sun Jun-17-07 08:38 AM by Bucky
Beekeepers suspect neoconitoids
Scientists Examine Cause of Bee Die-Off


Scientists from Penn State and the U.S. Department of Agriculture are leading the research into colony-collapse disorder, including study of the yet-to-be identified pathogen, a microorganism capable of causing disease.

But commercial beekeeper David Hackenberg isn't waiting to take action. He's asking growers whether they use pesticides on fields before bringing his bees for pollination...

He said he is convinced pesticides, and in particular a kind of pesticide called neoconitinoids, were harming his bees.


What the hell is it with these PNAC nutjobs? Why do they hate our bees so much that they're releasing their neoconitoids to destroy the world's honeybees? Do they hate insects? Flowers? Or do they just hate anything sweet?

Or is it something more insideous than that? Maybe they're not satisfied simply controlling the world's oil and the world's water supply. Perhaps they're destroying the bees because Halliburton has a hidden supply of giant artificial honey making machines and they see natural honey as a free-lance threat to their world domination agenda. Or maybe the honeybees were producing their sweet sweet nectar for euros instead of US sucro-dollars.

Little by little those neoconitoids are creeping in to control all of the planet's fluids. Today it's the honey; maybe tomorrow they'll be going after our precious Gatorade supplies. These bastards must be stopped now!
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MisterHowdy Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 08:44 AM
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1. Are you sure its the government responsible for releasing these pesticides?
I thought those kind of decisions were made by individual farms/farmers.
I think farmers have choices as to what kind of pesticides they use and when they choose to use them.
So I find it hard to blame PNAC for causing this.

Don't get me wrong, I hate PNAC.
And I wouldn't put anything past them.
n/t
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Sadie4629 Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 08:48 AM
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2. Um . . .
I think the OP was at least partially tongue-in-cheek over the use of the term neoconitoids. Get it? NEOCONitoids?
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MisterHowdy Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 09:23 AM
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4. Oh no! I'm stupid
I didn't even see that.
lol.



Sorry Bucky
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 08:51 AM
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3. France "banned" them in 2000 - our banning them has been postponed by the Bush folks for 7 years
Edited on Sun Jun-17-07 09:04 AM by papau
Is the government responsible for releasing these pesticides?

yes

Should imidacloprid, marketed under a variety of names including Gaucho, be banned?

Good question.

The bee population started down in France when it began to be used in 94 on sunflowers. - it was banned for sunflowers in 99/00.

It was still used for corn.

The bee population continued to decrease.

Studies seem to indicate the effect begins at 10 times the usual dose obtained by hanging out in an area with the chemical around - or so they say. New studies indicate it might have bad effects at as low as 1/3rd the dose a bee gets from hanging around an area treated with it. Who knows the correct answer? Cumulative effect is not tested or known - and Bayer is suing anyone that says it harms bees.
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dmosh42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 09:54 AM
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5. maybe Monsanto?
A couple years ago, one of the big Ag/chemical companies started releasing a new corn seed carrying a genetic engineering poison that kills the butterfly catepillar that sometimes feeds on developing corn. It must also affect other insects. Brave new world!
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Babsbrain Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 09:58 AM
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6. If we kill them THERE....
they won't attack us HERE
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-17-07 10:49 AM
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7. bwahahahahaha-- that is SO funny....
Excellent catch!
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