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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 12:30 PM Original message |
Duke University has its first dish of crow! |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
1. They are going to have to do something |
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Sadie4629 (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
2. Too little too late, in my opinion |
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Solo_in_MD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
3. The Gang of 88 is going to get owned for what they did and rightly so |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 02:43 PM Response to Reply #3 |
15. Here's a reminder of the 88's ad. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 05:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
213. Nothing is going to happen to the 88. |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
4. I hope the academic lynching mob gets their due, |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 01:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Deleted message |
Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 01:14 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. I am sure an apology would be considered, |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
5. Question: I tuned out on all but the most basic details long ago.... |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 01:56 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. It's somewhat arguable what their intent was |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 02:50 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. I don't think the ad implies that the boys were guilty |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 03:22 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. It has to be understood in context of the other posting |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 03:55 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. that's not what they've said about the ad |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. That will be the crux of their defense argument |
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Solo_in_MD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 04:38 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. A smart lawyer will get some to turn against the others and support the flurry of suits that are |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
8. He seems to regret the consternation, not his actions. |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
9. I think it is important to remember that Duke University |
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mediawatch (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
10. I am waiting for the woman who accused these guys |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 02:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. People like her make false charges every day |
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Solo_in_MD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. Concur, she was pretty jacked up at the time, and was easily lead |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 05:07 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. There have been some women who went to jail over false |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 11:59 PM Response to Reply #28 |
48. It's not worth it |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 07:32 AM Response to Reply #48 |
54. I've read about a bi-polar woman who went to jail over false |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 08:33 AM Response to Reply #54 |
60. That doesn't make it right |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 08:41 AM Response to Reply #60 |
64. People go in jail for probation violations. Just ask Paris Hilton. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:53 AM Response to Reply #64 |
133. She was picked up on a drunk & disorderly and taken to detox /nt |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 02:09 PM Response to Reply #133 |
189. I looked it up. The incident with a taxi was in 2002. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:24 PM Response to Reply #189 |
222. Ah, mixed the two up... |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 08:34 AM Response to Reply #13 |
61. Deflecting the argument to her role just diminishes the hideous arrogancy and corruption of Nifong. |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:39 AM Response to Reply #13 |
117. No, Nifong used her just as much as he used the kids |
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demgurl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:16 AM Response to Reply #13 |
150. As a former rape victim, I resent this line of thinking. |
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Ex Lion Tamer (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 03:16 PM Response to Reply #150 |
210. Very eye opening post. |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:32 PM Response to Reply #150 |
223. I don't think she should be punished... |
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demgurl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 09:39 AM Response to Reply #223 |
224. IF she is mentally unstable.... |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 05:17 AM Response to Reply #10 |
50. I'm waiting for other women victims |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 07:35 AM Response to Reply #50 |
55. I have a feeling you really don't have a clue as to what the story |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 08:59 AM Response to Reply #55 |
71. Perhaps you are the one |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:08 AM Response to Reply #71 |
80. I assure you I have never been a perp. |
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knight_of_the_star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 05:12 PM Response to Reply #71 |
214. I am attending college now |
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Ex Lion Tamer (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #55 |
208. Ignore it. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:17 AM Response to Reply #50 |
86. Which woman did you think was "easily frightened" in this case? |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
12. I bet he misses Yale, where he was a Dean |
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Solo_in_MD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 04:33 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. I think this will be the begining of his downfall, and well deserved it will be |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 01:32 PM Response to Reply #21 |
177. Yep, it certainly calls into question his judgment. |
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SoDesuKa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
14. On the Other Hand . . . |
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Solo_in_MD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. xymphora is far from credible... |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 04:38 PM Response to Reply #14 |
24. yeah, right |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 04:50 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. Evidence is needed to take someone on trial. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
25. Those professors aren't going anywhere, especially if they are |
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Solo_in_MD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 05:01 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Until the lawsuits start |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 05:08 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. I don't think they are going anywhere, lawsuit or no lawsuit. |
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Solo_in_MD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 05:14 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Some of the parents have the resources to break your typical college professor |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. What would they be sued over? |
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Solo_in_MD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 05:36 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Lets start with defamation, libel, and slander |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Do you have any evidence for that? |
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Solo_in_MD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 06:04 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Mostly media reports and other discussion that were happening at the time |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 06:13 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Well, as your friend noted, there was a lot of background. |
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Solo_in_MD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 06:35 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. I perceived it as being a bloc within the faculty who were going over the top |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 06:57 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. I watched it unfold right here in town, day by day, and it didn't look that way to me. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 07:14 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. It's very easy to blame it all on Nifong. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 07:26 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. The State Bar blames it all on Nifong. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 07:40 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. I've read their report, but I have a feeling they blame it all on |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 06:41 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. Do these faculty know about presumption of innocence? Due |
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11 Bravo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 06:48 AM Response to Reply #43 |
53. Yes, Duke Law gave us that world renowned lawyer Richard M. Nixon. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 05:21 AM Response to Reply #31 |
52. Their money would be better spent |
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qdemn7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 05:39 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. I sure as hell |
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Retired AF Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 05:12 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Tenure dont mean squat |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 05:19 AM Response to Reply #25 |
51. Nor should they |
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Mike Daniels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:20 AM Response to Reply #51 |
153. What civil trial? |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
35. The satisfaction that some people take over the dropping of charges makes me want to puke |
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Solo_in_MD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 05:47 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Its why they were dropped and that they clearly never should have been filed |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 06:13 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Why not look at tit another way |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-17-07 06:26 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. With "evidence" like this, it's very hard for me to imagine how |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:17 AM Response to Reply #41 |
87. What really blew up the case was an intentionally misleading report |
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live love laugh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 07:51 AM Response to Reply #35 |
56. Says a lot about wealth, power...and more. The "crazy" woman defense |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 08:07 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. My advice-know at least a little bit about the subject you are |
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live love laugh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 08:32 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. My advice, don't be so obvious in your intentions to dissuade people from their own opinions. n/t |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 08:38 AM Response to Reply #59 |
63. You need to know something about the subject to form an opinion. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 08:44 AM Response to Reply #63 |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 08:36 AM Response to Reply #56 |
62. Since you admit you didn't follow the case, you may be excused for not knowing what you're talking |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 08:46 AM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Deleted message |
mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 08:49 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. That's a poor excuse for an informed position, but a good example of the lynch-mob mentality |
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live love laugh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 08:54 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. I assume you were a lawyer in the case, or on the jury? |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 08:55 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. For crying out loud, what jury? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:00 AM Response to Reply #69 |
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live love laugh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:43 AM Response to Reply #69 |
167. My mistake, There was no jury. I still have questions about the case |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 08:57 AM Response to Reply #68 |
70. If you knew anything about the case you'd know there was no jury - and the reason |
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live love laugh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:02 AM Response to Reply #70 |
73. Gee "Joe" |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:06 AM Response to Reply #73 |
77. Only if you consider correcting ignorance of the occassional poster "practice". |
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live love laugh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:20 AM Response to Reply #77 |
89. Why are you are continually drawn to EVERY Duke thread and to my posts? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:21 AM Response to Reply #89 |
92. I think justice and equality are important. I think accuracy is important too, and |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:30 AM Response to Reply #92 |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:31 AM Response to Reply #98 |
101. These young men, in fact, are innocent. Sorry to rain on your lynch-mob. |
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live love laugh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:32 AM Response to Reply #101 |
106. You have your opinion, so do I. Again, your excessive protests against any contrary opinions |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:34 AM Response to Reply #106 |
108. Actually, I have facts and informed opinion. |
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live love laugh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:37 AM Response to Reply #108 |
112. You also have an unhealthy obsession with this case and an inability |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:38 AM Response to Reply #112 |
114. Hm, again when you are proven factually incorrect you cast aspersions on your fellow |
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live love laugh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:40 AM Response to Reply #114 |
119. And your obsession is "cogent"? Where will your "facts" and "informed opinion" take you? nt |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:41 AM Response to Reply #119 |
121. I didn't think posting on DU was taking anyone anywhere, though I am always pleased |
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live love laugh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:49 AM Response to Reply #121 |
129. The fact that the likes of you is so obsessed trying to change others' opinions |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:50 AM Response to Reply #129 |
130. I have no interest in changing your uninformed opinions -- only in exposing them |
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live love laugh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:55 AM Response to Reply #130 |
134. That is obvious and the question is why you are so obsessed with doing so. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:57 AM Response to Reply #134 |
137. No connection other than your continued smears of those who correct your errors. |
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live love laugh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:00 AM Response to Reply #137 |
141. delete |
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live love laugh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:02 AM Response to Reply #137 |
142. I feel sorry for you that you cannot see how transparent you are. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:04 AM Response to Reply #142 |
144. But there are some things that are known - though they are not known by you. |
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live love laugh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:08 AM Response to Reply #144 |
146. You do not know all that happened. At least you admit it. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:13 AM Response to Reply #146 |
149. If I were to shove my opinion down your throat, it would be the first informed one you've |
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live love laugh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:17 AM Response to Reply #149 |
151. You really have only exposed yourself and your ulterior motives. n/t |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:21 AM Response to Reply #151 |
154. So says the person who thought there was a jury. |
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live love laugh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:24 AM Response to Reply #154 |
155. I was wrong about a jury. That doesn't change the fact that you don't have all facts. n/t |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #155 |
172. Not having all the facts beats not having any. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:09 AM Response to Reply #144 |
147. Agreed |
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live love laugh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:33 AM Response to Reply #101 |
161. There are things that you nor anybody who wasn't there do not know. |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:47 AM Response to Reply #161 |
169. Like what? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #169 |
176. They'er like the "questions surrounding" WMDs and Saddam Hussein masterminding 911. |
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live love laugh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:34 AM Response to Reply #101 |
162. Mobs are groups of people--I am a single poster. Now you and your buddies, maybe that's a mob. n/t |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:07 AM Response to Reply #56 |
78. Agree, very predictable |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:09 AM Response to Reply #78 |
81. No esteem for drunken jocks or for lying prosecutors - just esteem for the truth and |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 11:12 AM Response to Reply #78 |
175. Yep. I was just thinking this morning that I've never seen so much support for a "Girls Gone Wild" |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:31 AM Response to Reply #56 |
99. You are incredibly misinformed about this case. |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:31 AM Response to Reply #56 |
100. To summarize your post |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:00 AM Response to Reply #56 |
140. If I were you, I would quit posting on this. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:28 AM Response to Reply #140 |
156. But don't you realize |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:31 AM Response to Reply #156 |
158. Oh, you're right. *smacks forehead* |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:44 AM Response to Reply #158 |
168. These men weren't wealthy |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:29 AM Response to Reply #56 |
157. In this particular case, the woman is a crazy gold-digger |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:41 AM Response to Reply #35 |
122. All I'm going to say is |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 01:38 PM Response to Reply #122 |
178. point is, someone without the resources of these guys' families would have been up shit creek |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 02:04 PM Response to Reply #178 |
187. Being rich is not a crime in this country, as far as I know. |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 02:36 PM Response to Reply #187 |
199. in fact, it guarantees you won't be punished for crimes |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 03:17 PM Response to Reply #199 |
211. If you didn't commit any crimes, why should you be punished |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 05:15 AM Response to Original message |
49. Duke needs to apologize |
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Mike Daniels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 08:30 AM Response to Reply #49 |
58. One could say that of all colleges in regards to their student athletes |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:02 AM Response to Reply #58 |
75. Absolutely, its commonplace |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:13 AM Response to Reply #75 |
83. That May Be True, However. . . |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:26 AM Response to Reply #83 |
94. I seriously doubt |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:28 AM Response to Reply #94 |
96. When you say you doubt "the full facts...will ever come out", are you substituting |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:32 AM Response to Reply #94 |
102. You Can Remove The Chip From Your Shoulder |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:40 AM Response to Reply #102 |
120. Then everyone should move on |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:49 AM Response to Reply #120 |
128. Ok By Me |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #94 |
171. What happened to personal responsibility? |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:02 AM Response to Reply #49 |
74. Should the stripper's school apologize for her behavior? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:05 AM Response to Reply #74 |
76. Deleted message |
LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:13 AM Response to Reply #76 |
82. Why don't you quit accusing other posters? |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:15 AM Response to Reply #82 |
84. Why don't you |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:16 AM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Facts? Have you referenced any facts? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #85 |
218. They cannot be known. It's like the Heisenberg uncertainty principle... |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:19 AM Response to Reply #84 |
88. I feel like you are the one stalking me. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:08 AM Response to Reply #49 |
79. What did the Lacrosse team do - or more importantly what did Duke do - that |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:20 AM Response to Reply #79 |
90. The team had a history |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:23 AM Response to Reply #90 |
93. Facts please, about this team annd these students. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:28 AM Response to Reply #93 |
95. google it yourself |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:29 AM Response to Reply #95 |
97. I see. You've got nothing. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:32 AM Response to Reply #97 |
104. 15 players had prior criminal charges |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:33 AM Response to Reply #104 |
107. And the school should apologize for.... |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:37 AM Response to Reply #107 |
113. For not doing more |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:40 AM Response to Reply #113 |
118. Though you are very comfortable with broad brush smears, I believe people are responsible |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:44 AM Response to Reply #118 |
126. Drunken frat boys |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:52 AM Response to Reply #126 |
132. I don't see how hiring a stripper mitigates prosecutorial misconduct. |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:17 AM Response to Reply #126 |
152. no, they're not angels. But they're not a lot different from other students |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #152 |
182. Threats to "kill & skin the bitches" |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #182 |
183. Except that email was sent after the party |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 02:09 PM Response to Reply #183 |
188. Parsing? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 01:56 PM Response to Reply #182 |
184. What does that have to do with the accused? |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 02:12 PM Response to Reply #182 |
193. Wow. Just wow. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 02:17 PM Response to Reply #193 |
197. Serious lapse in judgement |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 02:34 PM Response to Reply #197 |
198. For a moment I thought you were admitting something |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 02:38 PM Response to Reply #198 |
201. Once again, I repeat |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 02:40 PM Response to Reply #201 |
202. Maybe they are and maybe they aren't |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 02:44 PM Response to Reply #202 |
204. Wrong again |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 03:14 PM Response to Reply #204 |
209. Actually you criticized them for "beating up on women" |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 05:15 PM Response to Reply #209 |
215. And wrong again |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:03 AM Response to Reply #104 |
143. Oh my |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:32 AM Response to Reply #143 |
160. I'm Shocked, SHOCKED! |
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Mike Daniels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:41 AM Response to Reply #104 |
165. Except that none of those offenses are rare among colleges |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:32 AM Response to Reply #95 |
105. Unfortunately sex and drinking go hand in hand with a university education |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:34 AM Response to Reply #105 |
109. Forced sex and violence |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:35 AM Response to Reply #109 |
111. But these men never did that |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:35 AM Response to Reply #95 |
110. Their Reputation As Boors Is Irrelevant To The Legal Issues Here |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:38 AM Response to Reply #110 |
115. Actually, they have behaved very well this school year and did charity |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:41 AM Response to Reply #115 |
123. Then after the charity work |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:43 AM Response to Reply #123 |
124. There is nothing illegal abouut hiring strippers, or - if one is of age - getting drunk. You might |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:47 AM Response to Reply #110 |
127. It's just as irrelevant as the stripper's reputation |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:52 AM Response to Reply #127 |
131. Another Vehement Agreement |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:56 AM Response to Reply #131 |
136. Except |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:59 AM Response to Reply #136 |
138. Are you of the opinion that anyone with any criminal record cannot be the victim |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:59 AM Response to Reply #136 |
139. Not The Three Charged, Though |
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Mike Daniels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #136 |
170. And those arrests were for offenses that are not uncommon on a college campus |
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Mike Daniels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 02:11 PM Response to Reply #170 |
191. Correction - one of the accused (Finnerty) was on probation for assault |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:32 AM Response to Reply #49 |
103. Wow |
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Jade Fox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:39 AM Response to Reply #49 |
116. Thank you. |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:43 AM Response to Reply #49 |
125. What are your connections to the case? |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:55 AM Response to Reply #125 |
135. Just someone who |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:32 AM Response to Reply #135 |
159. Seems at least one of the Duke kids did just that -- avoided the party |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:39 AM Response to Reply #159 |
164. That is what I find so repugnant about him |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:43 AM Response to Reply #135 |
166. You are behind the times |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 01:45 PM Response to Reply #166 |
179. Got a link? |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 01:51 PM Response to Reply #179 |
181. Here you go |
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nosillies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #135 |
173. OK, I'm trying to figure it out here, help me out... |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #173 |
180. "Killing and skinning the bitches" |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 01:57 PM Response to Reply #180 |
185. "Kids like that"? Broadbrush much? |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 02:10 PM Response to Reply #185 |
190. Absolutely, in this case |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:56 PM Response to Reply #190 |
212. Most decent people are offended by guilt-by-association. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #180 |
186. Except that wasn't by any of the men accused! |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 02:11 PM Response to Reply #186 |
192. Tammy, do you like guys who talk this way? |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 02:15 PM Response to Reply #192 |
196. That's the second poster you accused of not being a woman |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 02:41 PM Response to Reply #196 |
203. I'm always curious |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 05:58 PM Response to Reply #196 |
217. The poster believes strongly in GROUPTHINK. You know - all women are supposed |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 07:59 PM Response to Reply #192 |
225. Um, my name's Tammy |
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nosillies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 02:14 PM Response to Reply #180 |
195. And exactly where did I say I supported the student who made that comment? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 11:10 AM Response to Reply #135 |
174. I'm reminded of Bush's certainty about WMD's. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
91. It's good Duke finally said something... |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:07 AM Response to Reply #91 |
145. The University did say something earlier |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:10 AM Response to Reply #145 |
148. Thanks for the link |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
163. Seek Justice, not vengeance... |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #163 |
194. Unfortunately |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 02:37 PM Response to Reply #194 |
200. so would railroading the students to a conviction have better served women's interests? |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 02:48 PM Response to Reply #200 |
205. Appears you're unable to do so |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 03:04 PM Response to Reply #205 |
207. I'm sorry. I missed where I described them as heroes. Care to point it out to me? |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 05:20 PM Response to Reply #207 |
216. The best possible outcome |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 02:54 PM Response to Reply #194 |
206. I hope you are wrong, what I see is that before making |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 06:01 PM Response to Reply #206 |
219. I'm perplexed about how Nifong thought he could sell *nothing* |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 08:36 PM Response to Reply #219 |
220. He forgot Rule #1 |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 08:44 PM Response to Reply #219 |
221. A remarkably stupid man, the County is better off w/o him in |
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