"WAHHH!!! But their signs aren't in ENGLISH!"

[datasuspect]

i guess it was a problem when the germans did it too?
















no irish need apply.

[mema42]

1. They should be multi national

I guess they didn't believe in the pc multinational stuff back then.

[datasuspect]

3. those examples ARE multinational

direct pictorial evidence of american/german cultures and the english and german languages existing side by side in public printed materials.

[benddem]

13. you are so right

it is laughable the way people say that all the immigrants came here and learned the language. There are cemeteries in Wisconsin where all the tombstones are in German. One of the big proponents of English Only was a congressman from WI named Toby Roth. He spoke with a German accent. There were German language newspapers in most cities.

[EFerrari]

24. Has anyone figured out how much longer people have spoken

Spanish on this continent than English?

Edit: Jamestown's date is 1607. Columbus was 1492. Does anyone have better dates?

[TankLV]

25. I don't know, but I seriously doubt there was a Spanish presense in the north or northeast...

I say the second language should be Italian, Polish, German or Ukrainian before it ever is remotely spanish in those areas...

[EFerrari]

27. That sounds right to me. But not so in the South -- Florida

for example. And of course in the West, Spanish was here first.

[yardwork]

41. The Spanish were all over the east coast in the 1500s and 1600s

Look at the place names on the North Carolina coast. Manteo, Oriental, etc. And the ponies on the Outer Banks have DNA proving that they are direct descendants of Spanish horses.

St. Augustine in Florida is the oldest continuously occupied city in the United States. Settled by the Spanish. Before Jamestown. Waaaaay before Plymouth Rock.

[EFerrari]

45. Why do you hate American ponies?

lol

I didn't know that. :hi:

[yardwork]

46. HI sfexpat2000! Here's a fun link about the horses.

http://www.bobshorsetours.com/history.htm

[EFerrari]

47. Well, see! I forgot about Roanoke. 1584!

I'm sending this link to my mom. She lives for her horses - rescue palominos. She'll love this!

[eppur_se_muova]

43. Try Dutch. Remember New Amsterdam (now known as New York)? nt

[PBS Poll-435]

37. Now you are just pulling our legs!

The first words spoken by Columbus after landing in the New World were, "Hey Y'All! Come look at this!"

[EFerrari]

38. lol!

:rofl:

[Clark2008]

39. What about all THESE languages:

A'ane (Aane, A'ananin), Abenaki (Abanaki, Abinaki, Abenaqui), Abnaki-Penobscot, Absaaloke (Absaalooke, Absaloke, Absaroke, Absalooke, Absarokee, Absaroka), Achumawi (Achomawi), Acjachemen (Acjachemem, Acjachamen), Acoma, Agua Caliente, Adai, Ahahnelin, Ahe, Ahtna (Ahtena, Atna), Ajachemem (Ajachemen, Ajachamem, Ajachmem), Akainawa, Akawaio (Akawayo, Acawaio), Akimel O'odham, Akwa'ala (Akwaala, Akwala), Alabama-Coushatta, Aleut, Alutiiq, Algonquians (Algonkians), Algonquin (Algonkin), Aliklik (Alliklik), Alkansea, Alnobak (Alnôbak, Alnombak, Aln8bak), Alsea (Älsé, Alséya), Amalecite, Andaste, Anishinaabe (Anishinabe, Anishinabemowin, Anishinabeg, Anishinabek, Anishnabay), Aniyunwiya, Antoniaño, Apache, Apalachee (Appalachee, Apalachi), Applegate, Apsaaloke (Apsaalooke, Apsaloke, Apsaroke, Apsarokee, Apsaroka), Apwaruge (Apwarugeyi, Apwarugewi), Arapaho (Arapahoe, Arrapaho, Arrapahoe), Arawak, Arikara (Arikari), Arkansas, Asakiwaki, Assiniboine (Assiniboin), Atakapa, Atfalati, Atikamekw (Atikamek, Attikamek, Attimewk), Atsina, Atsugewi (Atsuge, Atsugeyi, Atsukeyi, Atsuke), Araucano (Araucanian), Atzinca (Atzinteco, Atzintec), Ayisiyiniwok, Aztec,Babine, Bahwika (Bhawika), Bannock, Barbareño, Bear River, Beaver, Bella Bella, Bella Coola, Beothuks (Beothuck, Betoukuag), Bettol, Biloxi, Black Carib, Blackfoot (Blackfeet), Blood Indians, Bode'wadmi, Bora, Cabanapo, Caddo (Caddoe), Cahita, Cahto, Cahuilla, Calapooya (Calapuya, Calapooia), Calusa (Caloosa), Carib, Carolina Algonquian, Carquin, Carrier, Caska, Catawba, Cathlamet, Catlotlq, Cayuga, Cayuse, Celilo, Central Pomo, Chahta, Chalaque, Chappaquiddick (Chappaquiddic, Chappiquidic), Chawchila (Chawchilla), Chehalis, Chelan, Chemehuevi, Cheraw, Cheroenhaka (Cheroenkhaka, Cherokhaka), Cherokee, Cheyenne (Cheyanne), Chickamaugan, Chickasaw (Chikasha), Chilcotin, Chilula-Wilkut, Chimariko, Chinook, Chinook Jargon, Chipewyan (Chipewyin, Chippewyin), Chippewa, Chitimacha (Chitamacha), Chocheno, Choctaw, Cholon, Chontal de Oaxaca, Chontal de Tabasco (Chontal Maya), Choynimni (Choinimni), Chukchansi, Chumash, Clackamas (Clackama), Clallam, Clatskanie (Clatskanai, Clackstar), Clatsop, Cmique, Coastal Cree, Cochimi, Cochiti, Cocopa (Cocopah, Cocopá), Coeur d'Alene, Cofan, Columbia (Columbian), Colville, Comanche, Comcaac, Comox, Conestoga, Coos (Coosan), Copper River Athabaskan, Coquille, Cora (Corapan), Coso, Costanoan, Coushatta, Cowichan, Cowlitz, Cree, Creek, Croatan (Croatoan), Crow, Cruzeño, Cuna, Cucupa (Cucupá, Cucapá), Cupeno (Cupeño, Cupa), Cupik (Cu'pik, Cuit), Dakelh, Dakota, Dakubetede, Dawson, Degexit'an (Deg Xit'an, Deg Hit'an, Deg Xinag), Delaware, Dena'ina (Denaina), Dene, Dene Suline (Denesuline), Dene Tha, Diegueno, Dine (Dineh), Djimaliko (Djimariko), Dogrib, Dohema (Dohma), Duhlelap, Dumna, Dunne-za (Dane-zaa, Dunneza), Eastern Inland Cree, Eastern Pomo, Ecclemachs, Eel River Athabascan, Eenou (Eeyou), Eskimo, Esselen, Etchemin (Etchimin), Etnemitane, Euchee, Eudeve (Eudebe, Endeve), Excelen, Eyak, Fernandeno (Fernandeño), Flathead Salish, Fox, French Cree, Gabrielino (Gabrieleño), Gaigwu, Galibi, Galice, Garifuna, Gashowu, Gitxsan (Gitksan, Gitsken, Giklsan, Gityskyan), Goltsan, Gosiute (Goshute), Gros Ventre, Guarijio (Guarihio, Guarijío), Gulf, Gwich'in (Gwichin, Gwitchin), Haida, Haisla, Halkomelem (Halqomelem, Halqomeylem), Han (Hän, Hankutchin, Han Hwech'in), Hanesak, Hanis, Hare, Hatteras, Haudenosaunee, Havasupai, Hawaiian, Heiltsuk, Heve, Hiaki, Hichiti, Hidatsa (Hinatsa), Hinonoeino, Hitchiti, Hocak (Ho-Chunk, Hochunk), Hochelagan, Holikachuk, Holkomelem, Homalco, Hoopa, Hopi, Hopland Pomo, Hualapai, Huarijio (Huarihio, Huarijío), Huelel, Huichol (Huichola), Huichun, Hupa, Huron, Hutyeyu, Hwech'in, Illini (Illiniwek, Illinois), Inca, Ineseño (Inezeño), Ingalik (Ingalit), Innoko, Innu, Inuktitut (Inuit, Inupiat, Inupiaq, Inupiatun), Inuna-Ina, Iowa-Oto (Ioway), Iroquois Confederacy, Ishak, Isleño, Isleta, Itza Maya (Itzaj, Itzah), Iviatim, Iynu, James Bay Cree, Jemez, Juaneno (Juaneño), Juichun, Kabinapek, Kahwan, Kainai (Kainaiwa), Kalapuya (Kalapuyan, Kalapooya, Kalapooia, Kalapooian, Kalapooyan), Kalihna (Kalinha, Kalina), Kanenavish, Kanien'kehaka (Kanienkehaka), Kalispel, Kansa (Kanza, Kanze), Karkin, Karok (Karuk), Kashaya, Kaska, Kaskaskia, Kathlamet (Katlamet), Kato, Kaw, Kawaiisu (Kawaisu), Kechan, Kenaitze (Kenai), Keres (Keresan), Kichai, Kickapoo (Kikapoo, Kikapu), Kikima, Kiksht, Kiliwa (Kiliwi, Ko'lew), Kiowa, Kiowa Apache, Kitanemuk, Kitsai (K'itsash), Klahoose, Klallam, Klamath-Modoc, Klatskanie (Klatskanai, Klaatshan), Klatsop, Klickitat, Koasati, Kolchan, Konkow (Konkau), Konomihu, Kootenai (Ktunaxa, Kutenai), Koso, Koyukon, Kuitsh, Kulanapo (Kulanapan, Kulanapa), Kumeyaay/Kumiai, Kuna, Kupa (Kupangaxwichem), Kusan, Kuskokwim, Kutchin (Kootchin), Kwaiailk, Kw'al, Kwakiutl (Kwakwala), Kwalhioqua, Kwantlen, Kwapa (Kwapaw), Kwedech, Kweedishchaaht (Kweneecheeaht), Kwikipa, Kwinault (Kwinayl), Laguna, Lakhota (Lakota), Lakmiak (Lakmayut), Lassik, Latkawa, Laurentian (Lawrencian), Lecesem, Lenape (Lenni Lenape), Lillooet, Lipan Apache, Listiguj (Listuguj), Llaamen, Lnuk (L'nuk, L'nu'k, Lnu), Lokono, Loucheux (Loucheaux), Loup, Lower Chehalis, Lower Coquille, Lower Cowlitz, Lower Tanana, Lower Umpqua, Luckiamute (Lukiamute), Luiseno, Lumbee, Lummi, Lushootseed, Lutuamian, Macushi (Macusi), Mahican, Maidu, Makah, Makushi (Makusi), Maliseet (Malecite, Malécite, Maliceet, Malisit, Malisset), Maliseet-Passamaquoddy, Mamaceqtaw, Mandan, Mangoac, Mapuche (Mapudungun, Mapudugan), Maricopa, Massachusett (Massachusetts), Massasoit (Massassoit, Mashpee), Mattabesic Mattole, Maumee, Matlatzinca (Maklasinca, Maklatzinca), Mayan, Mayo, Mengwe, Menominee (Menomini), Mescalero-Chiricahua, Meskwaki (Mesquaki-Sauk, Mesquakie), Metis Creole, Mewoc, Miami-Illinois, Miccosukee, Michif, Micmac (Micmaq, Mickmack, Mi'gmaq), Migueleño, Mikasuki, Mi'kmaq (Mikmaq, Mikmak, Mikmaw, Mi'kmaw, Mi'kmawi'simk, Mikmawisimk, Míkmaq, Míkmaw, Míkmawísimk), Miluk, Mingo, Minqua, Minsi, Minto, Miskito (Miskitu, Misquito, Mosquito), Missouria, Mitchif, Miwok (Miwoc, Miwuk), Mixe, Mixtec (Mixteco, Mixteca), Mobilian Trade Jargon, Modoc, Mohave, Mohawk, Mohegan, Mohican, Mojave, Molale (Molalla, Molala, Molele, Molel), Monache (Mono), Montagnais, Montauk, Moosehide, Multnomah, Munsee (Munsie, Muncey, Muncie), Muskogee (Muscogee, Mvskoke), Musqueam, Mutsun, Nabesna, Nabiltse, Nadot'en (Nadoten, Natooten, Natoot'en, Natut'en), Nahane (Nahani, Nahanni, Nahanne), Nahuat, Nahuatl, Naklallam, Nakoda (Nakota), Nambe, Nanticoke, Nantucket, Narragansett, Naskapi, Nass-Gitxsan, Natchez, Natick, Naugutuck, Navajo (Navaho), Nawat, Nayhiyuwayin, Nde, Nee-me-poo, Nehiyaw (Nehiyawok), Netela, Nevome, New Blackfoot, Newe, Nez Perce, Niantic, Nicola, Niitsipussin (Niitsitapi), Nimipu (Nimiipuu, Nimi'ipuu, Nimi'ipu), Nipmuc, Nisenan (Nishinam), Nisga'a (Nisgaa, Nisgha, Nishga, Niska, Nisk'a), Nlaka'pamux (Nlakapamux, Ntlakapamux, Ntlakapmuk, Nklapmux), Nomlaki (Nomalaki), Nooksack (Nooksak), Nootka (Nutka), Nootsack (Nootsak), Northeastern Pomo, Northern Carrier, Northern Cheyenne, Nottoway, Nsilxin, Nuooah, Nutunutu, Nuxalk, Nuxwstlayamutsen, Nxak'amxcin, Oaxaca Chontal, Obispeño, Ocuiltec (Ocuilteco), Odawa, Ofo (Ofogoula), Ogahpah (Ogaxpa), Ohlone, Ojibwa (Ojibway, Ojibwe, Ojibwemowin), Oji-Cree, Okanagan (Okanogan), Okwanuchu, Old Blackfoot, Omaha-Ponca, Oneida, Onondaga, O'ob No'ok (O:b No'ok), O'odham (Oodham), Opata, Osage, Otchipwe, Otoe, Ottawa, Pai, Paipai, Paiute, Palaihnihan (Palaihnih, Palahinihan), Palewyami, Palouse, Pamlico, Panamint, Panoan, Pantlatch (Pantlach), Papago-Pima, Pascua Yaqui, Passamaquoddy, Patuxet, Patwin, Paugussett (Paugusset), Paviotso, Pawnee, Peigan, Pend D'Oreille, Penobscot (Penobscott, Pentagoet), Pentlatch (Pentlach), Peoria, Pequot, Peskotomuhkati, Picuris, Piegan (Piikani, Pikani, Pikanii, Pikuni), Pima, Pima Bajo, Pipil, Pit River, Plains Indian Sign Language, Pojoaque, Pomo (Pomoan), Ponca, Poospatuck (Poosepatuk, Poospatuk, Poosepatuck), Popoluca (Popoloca), Porcupine Indians, Potawatomi (Potowatomi, Pottawatomie, Potawatomie), Powhatan (Powhattan, Powhaten, Powatan), Pueblo, Puget Sound Salish, Puntlatch (Puntlach), Purisimeño, Putún, Quapaw (Quapa), Quechan, Quechua, Quilcene, Quileute, Quinault, Quinnipiac (Quinnipiack), Quiripi, Raramuri (Ralamuli), Red Indians, Restigouche, Rumsen, Runasimi, Saanich, Sac, Sahaptin, Salhulhtxw, Salinan, Salish, Samish, Sandia, Sanish (Sahnish), San Felipe, San Ildefonso, San Juan, Sanpoil, Santa Ana, Santa Clara, Santiam, Santo Domingo, Saponi (Saponey), Sarcee (Sarsi, Sarsee), Sastean (Sasta), Satsop, Savannah, Sauk, Saulteaux, Schaghticoke (Scaticook), Sechelt, Secwepemc (Secwepmec, Secwepmectsin, Secwepemctsin), Sekani, Selkirk, Seminoles, Seneca, Seri, Serrano, Seshelt, Severn Ojibwe, Sextapay, Shanel, Shashishalhem, Shasta (Shastika, Shastan), Shawnee (Shawano), Shinnecock, Shoshone (Shoshoni), Shuar, Shuswap, Sierra Chontal, Siksika (Siksikawa), Siletz, Similkameen, Sinkiuse (Sincayuse), Sinkyone, Sioux, Siuslaw, Skagit, Skicin, S'Klallam, Skokomish, Skraeling, Skwamish, Slavey (Slave, Slavi), Sliammon (Sliamon), Sm'algyax, Snichim, Snohomish, Songish, Sooke, Souriquois (Sourquois), Southeastern Pomo, Southern Paiute, Spokane (Spokan), Squamish, Sqwxwu7mish (Sqwxwu7mesh), Stadaconan, St'at'imcets (St'at'imc, St'at'imx, Stl'atl'imc, Stl'atl'imx, Stlatlimc), Stl'pulimuhkl (Stlpulmsh, Slpulmsh), Stockbridge, Sto:lo, Stoney, Straits Salish, Sugpiaq (Sugpiak), Suquamish, Sulateluk, Susquehannock, Suwal, Swampy Cree, Swinomish, Tabasco Chontal, Tachi (Tache), Tahltan, Tagish, Tahcully, Taino, Takelma (Takilma), Takla, Taltushtuntede (Taltushtuntude), Tamyen, Tanacross, Tanaina, Tanana, Tano, Taos, Tarahumara, Tataviam, Tauira (Tawira), Teguima (Teguime), Tehachapi, Ten'a, Tenino, Tepehuan (Tepehuano, Tepecano), Tequistlateco (Tequistlatec), Tesuque, Tetawken, Tete-de-Boule (Tetes-de-Boules), Tewa, Thompson, Tigua, Tillamook, Timbisha (Timbasha), Timucua, Tinde, Tinneh, Tiwa, Tjekan, Tlahuica (Tlahura), Tlatskanie (Tlatskanai), Tlatsop, Tlicho (Tlicho Dinne, Thlingchadine), Tlingit (Tlinkit), Tohono O'odham, Tolowa, Tongva (Tongvan), Tonkawa, Towa, Tsalagi (Tsa-la-gi), Tsattine (Tsa Tinne, Tza Tinne), Tsekani (Tse'khene, Tsek'ehne), Tsetsehestahese, Tsetsaut (Ts'ets'aut), Tsilhqot'in (Tzilkotin), Tsimshian (Tsimpshian), Tsinuk, Tsinuk Wawa, Tsitsistas, Tsooke, Tsoyaha, Tsuu T'ina (Tsuut'ina), Tualatin, Tubar (Tubare), Tubatulabal, Tukudh (Takudh), Tulalip, Tümpisa (Tumpisa, Tümbisha, Tumbisha), Tunica, Tupi, Tuscarora, Tutchone, Tutelo, Tututni, Tuwa'duxqucid, Tuwa'duqutsid, Twana, Twatwa (Twightwee), Uchi (Uche, Uchean, Uchee), Ukiah (Ukian, Uki, Ukia), Ukomnom, Umatilla, Unami, Unangan (Unangax), Unkechaug (Unquachog) Upper Chehalis, Upper Chinook, Upper Cowlitz, Upper Kuskokwim, Upper Tanana, Upper Umpqua, Ute, Vaniuki (Vaniuqui), Varijio (Varihio, Varijío), Ventureño, Virginian Algonkin, Wabanaki, Wailaki (Wailakki), Wailatpu (Waylatpu), Walapai, Walla Walla, Waluulapam, Wampano, Wampanoag, Wanapam, Wanki (Wangki), Wappinger, Wappo, Warijio (Warihio, Warijío), Warm Springs, Wasco-Wishram, Washo (Washoe), Watiru, Wazhazhe, Wea, Wenatchi (Wenatchee, Wenachee, Wenachi), Wendat, Weott, Western Pomo, Whilkut, White Clay People, Wichita (Witchita), Wikchamni, Wilewakiute, Willapa (Willopah), Winnebago, Wintu (Wintun), Wishram, Witsuwit'en (Witsuwiten, Wits'uwit'en, Wets'uwet'en, Wetsuweten), Wiyot (Wi'yot, Wishosk), Wobanaki, Wolastoqewi (Wolastoqiyik), Wyandot (Wyandotte), Wynoochie, Yakama, Yakima, Yaquina (Yakwina, Yakona, Yakonan, Yakon), Yavapai, Yawelmani, Yaqui, Yinka Dene, Yneseño (Ynezeño), Yocot'an, Yokaya (Yokaia, Yakaya), Yokuts (Yokut, Yokutsan), Yoncalla (Yonkalla), Yowlumni, Ysleño, Ysleta del Sur, Yucatec Maya (Yucateco, Yucatan), Yuchi (Yuchee) Yuhaviatam, Yukaliwa, Yuki (Yukian), Yuma, Yupik (Yu'pik, Yuit), Yurok (Yu'rok), Zapotec (Zapoteco), Zia, Zimshian, Zoque and Zuni.

[EFerrari]

44. . . .

:)

[libnnc]

2. I love history...

Thanks for posting these...:thumbsup:

[datasuspect]

4. ain't it the truth

i love history too.

that's why i know anti-mexican people are full of shit and historically ignorant. they have a long line of hateful progenitors who paved the path for them to continue the quest for excellence in vileness.

[libnnc]

7. Yeppers.

Full of shit is correct. They don't fool me either. :)

[RB TexLa]

5. And the nerve of these folks too

[datasuspect]

6. mon dieu!

you mean they wuddn't speekin murcan back yonder?

[RB TexLa]

10. At least we still keep some of it

I'm sure the Dobbists want it take off.

[ret5hd]

8. AND THESE!

[datasuspect]

9. but you don't get it, EVERY OTHER IMMIGRANT GROUP ASSIMILATES

except the mexicans.

sarcasm.

[EFerrari]

22. What cracks me up is nationalists putting down perceived nationalism.

lol

[stevedeshazer]

36. Those wacky Finnish-Americans

Like my ancestors, who left Finland for Amerika, to find a better life.

Now, I'm thinking they should have stayed!

[ret5hd]

11. Here's a cartoon for all the nativist folks:

[greatauntoftriplets]

12. My mother was the daughter of immigrants from Luxembourg....

and grew up in Rogers Park, which back in the early days of the last century had a largish population of immigrants from Luxembourg.

Most of the parents sent their kids to the school with German nuns, where they would be educated in German.

My grandfather, on the other hand, had studied at the Sorbonne and so had seen a bit more of the world than most. He decided to break with the Old World and so sent his kids to the school taught by Irish nuns and in English. My grandfather was considered odd by many in his community.

[EFerrari]

15. The first house my mom bought was in an Irish Catholic 'hood.

Everyone in the Parish was Irish except us! :)

[greatauntoftriplets]

18. I grew up in an Irish-Catholic 'hood too.

The suburb I live in now has tons of Irish bars (Guinness :beer: :D )and lots of people with Irish surnames...as is mine.

Yesterday, I was in the local appliance dealer's store buying two new air conditioners. The salesman looked up my surname from last year's AC purchase and there were lots of people listed with the same last name. And it is not one of the more common Irish names.

[EFerrari]

21. My old neighborhood went Latino, then Vietnamese.

I don't think there are any O'Reillys living there any more. Things seem to move pretty fast here in the SF Bay area.

[datasuspect]

29. my mother was born in britain

my father was from texas, we lived in a neighborhood which at the time had lots of polish, german, and czechs.

oh, and don't forget the italians.


that was around cermak and western, i'm no worse for wear by having been exposed to MULTIPLE ethnicities, languages, and cultures.


mostly the grandparents of families retained their old ways. but you still had organizations and social clubs of various ethnic groups.

[greatauntoftriplets]

42. My grandfather was sort of determined to out-American the native-born Americans....

because he was lucky enough to pretty much have found the streets here paved with gold. When my mother was a kid, they had housekeepers, gardeners, even a chauffeur because "Pop" had done well in the painting contracting business. Unfortunately, he had sold most of his real estate and invested heavily in the stock market before he died in May of 1929. You can guess the rest....

[Mrs. Overall]

14. And those pesky Norwegians in WA State:

[Miss Chybil]

16. I've always felt, if you can't understand what something says

and you really want to know - learn the language. It's really not that hard. The people who complain the loudest about store signs in Spanish would never patronize those stores anyway - even if the signs were in English. Most people do not REGULARLY patronize businesses that operate outside their own culture. The sign "problem" is more simply based on people's own fears of displacement, "occupation" and change. It will pass, but probably not very soon. At least, not until the next migration and the language in question is say... Arabic, or some such thing.

[CGowen]

17. Isn't there a place called china town? n/t

[itsrobert]

19. Looks like they are waiving the US Flag and not the German Flag

Very different than waiving the Mexican Flag at an anti American Union Worker rally.

[EFerrari]

23. What rally was that? I missed that story. n/t

[datasuspect]

30. that's one example

plus the german flag has changed many times since the 1800s.

people fly foreign flags at all kinds of ethnic events/parades. st. patrick's day ring a bell?
and what's anti american about unions?

[itsrobert]

32. Taking a Union Worker's job

is Anti-American.

[datasuspect]

34. globalization is anti-american

hey, but that's the market in a global economy.

what kind of union jobs are mexicans "stealing?"

doesn't that comprise one of the pillars of the classic mexican ethnic stereotype? thievery?

but i forgot, the other classic mexican ethnic stereotype colors them as "lazy."

[petersjo02]

20. The Decorah Posten

The Decorah Posten was a Norwegian language newspaper published in Decorah, Iowa, from the mid-1800s to the 1960s and was distributed all throughout the midwestern states. As with all groups of immigrants and their families, the original Norwegian immigrants from the Old Country continued to speak Norwegian, maybe picking up a few English phrases. Their children, 1st generation Americans born to immigrants, spoke both languages, Norwegian and English, fluently with their English having maybe a touch of Norwegian accent. Their offspring, 2nd generation Americans, spoke mostly English, retaining only a few words and phrases of the language of their ancestors. The 3rd generation offspring spoke only English. I works that way with every single group of immigrants and their American-born offspring, no matter where they originally came from. I am one of that 3rd generation.

[TankLV]

26. It's not about SIGNS...

The only constant is the xenophobia that never ends from the beginning of the country on...

[marmar]

28. I remember walking along the Rue du Rivoli in Paris, next to some fellow American tourists...

Who were loudly and vocally complaining about all the signage being in French ....... IN FRANCE!!!! :crazy:

I guess it's that Anglophone sense of entitlement. :nopity:

[entanglement]

31. Kick

[kevinbgoode]

33. Ohhh...do you have a link for this?

I'd like sooooo very much to borrow these examples. . .

[datasuspect]

35. just random pics i've culled in web searches related to historical

immigration trends.

[baldguy]

40. People who said that on the 1850s were called "know nothings"

[july302001]

48. These were from prior to World War One

World War One killed all that fremdspreche. No kraut-speak was allowed in schools or on the street. This affected whole communities of beer-loving individuals and families in Ohio and Pennsyvania.

All of these people now speak zilch other than English.

[datasuspect]

50. a century (give or take) does much to aid assimilation

i wonder why people maintain that this could never possibly happen with mexicans.

[Lilith Velkor]

51. They said the same thing about the Irish/Italians/Germans/etc. back then

The more things change...

[datasuspect]

52. the funny part is that the average anti-mexican bully thinks they are proferring a unique

perspective, but it's just the same old xenophobia.

[Heidi]

49. Kick.

:kick: