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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:35 AM Original message |
Shocking New Details Of Abu Ghraib: Father & Son Forced To Do Acts Together |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
1. I know!! |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
74. here's the new yorker link to the ten page article. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
2. no one should shocked or surprised that our soldiers lost it. |
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Schema Thing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:44 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. I hold the individual soldiers responsible.... as well as their leadership |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 01:46 PM Response to Reply #6 |
36. I agree |
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TheMadMonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 02:01 AM Response to Reply #36 |
81. Unfortunately, you wouldn't be given the chance to air their... |
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Tigress DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 10:18 AM Response to Reply #81 |
90. I remember a high percentage of soldier suicides at the beginning of the war. |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #6 |
53. Agreed! |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
55. I ABSOLUTELY agree!...n/t |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:44 AM Response to Reply #2 |
14. So you think that the military personnel involved in this |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:57 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. what i think is that there was implicit agreement for those soldiers |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 11:37 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Yeah, but revenge for WHAT? The Iraqi people didn't have a |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 12:20 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. ok -- we agree -- i'm not sure what you're asking me here. |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Okay, but I will never go for the line 'I was just following orders'. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #28 |
39. yes, that's fine -- i'm not saying |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #28 |
43. You've never been in the military have you? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. Deleted sub-thread |
MaraJade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 01:01 AM Response to Reply #43 |
77. This sounds suspiciously like |
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kbqr (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 08:09 AM Response to Reply #77 |
85. "I was only following orders" |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 09:15 AM Response to Reply #77 |
88. So you think our soldiers are frightened and stupid? |
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The Wizard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 02:45 PM Response to Reply #77 |
92. This is why we need |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 03:02 PM Response to Reply #23 |
46. "19 of my Saudi intimates did 9/11" - Commander AWOL |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 04:19 AM Response to Reply #46 |
83. that image IS photoshopped |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 03:50 PM Response to Reply #83 |
93. "Smooooooooooch" - Commander AWOL |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 06:09 AM Response to Reply #93 |
94. I agree--whether or not it was PS'd is just "a question of semantics" |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 03:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
45. In the military, you don't think; you follow orders. |
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neuvocat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:21 PM Response to Reply #14 |
68. One of the qualifications for commissioned officers... |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #2 |
61. Torture is as American as apple pie and baseball (n/t) |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
70. Killing soldiers' humanity |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
72. I think the lunatics who pushed for this war did say torture prisoners |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
3. k&r |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
4. They should have known... |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:12 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. As each day passes I see many Dems for what they are - traitors |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 01:43 PM Response to Reply #7 |
35. It's hard to stomach... |
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liberal renegade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:52 PM Response to Reply #35 |
69. lack of a conscience, i'm sure...... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 02:27 PM Response to Reply #69 |
91. that should be a fatal affliction |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #7 |
38. "Father & Son Forced To Do Acts Together" |
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lala_rawraw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 02:06 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. These are the screams Hersh |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 03:14 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. The Sounds of "Compassionate Conservatism" |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
5. No wonder THEY hate 'US' for our PERVERSION. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
8. this has been rumored for so long that we have outrage fatigue |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 12:06 PM Response to Reply #8 |
25. as intended - the Dem power names would NOT back up the call for Rumsfeld to go |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Yes, that has really upset me since the spring of 2004 |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
9. Good Lord. Good Lord. |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:39 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Do you honestly believe the Iraqis don't already know what has/is |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:44 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. I know it's not right to hide the truth--I'm just concerned for our soldiers' safety, that's all. |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:48 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. To me, the more these atrocities are known, the more pressure |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 01:14 PM Response to Reply #13 |
31. I can't accept that. I'm sorry. |
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TheMadMonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 03:38 AM Response to Reply #13 |
82. Given the "exchange rate" those few innocents are very small potatoes indeed. |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 05:51 PM Response to Reply #12 |
63. Female detainees at Abu Ghraib were begging their male counterparts |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:05 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. Yes, the horrors that were perpetrated there have only been |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 01:15 PM Response to Reply #9 |
32. Don't you think the Iraqis know what Bush has been doing to them? |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
10. BushCo knew, all right |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
11. I'm sorry - these are war crimes. |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 12:55 PM Response to Reply #11 |
29. Yes. All of them. |
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MaraJade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 01:03 AM Response to Reply #29 |
78. They MUST be punished. . . |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
15. Most Americans justify the torture, 'those people' attacked us. |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #15 |
54. Most Americans are stupid in that case. |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 05:52 PM Response to Reply #54 |
64. Toture is as American as apple pie (with apologies to |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #15 |
56. "Most"? |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
17. "Just Frat Pranks and Radical-Left-Wing Exaggeration" |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
19. Makes me wonder if they purposely wanted high profile tortures. |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #19 |
60. The two most powerful dynasties in the world... |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
20. Family values? Oh give the world a break, Bush! |
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theNotoriousP.I.G. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
21. In addition to that disgusting "new development" |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. . |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
22. Welcome to Bushworld. This is their normal. nt |
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jasmeel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
26. I just emailed my senators and rep (Feingold, Kohl, Sensenfuck) |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
33. Deleted message |
BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:17 PM Response to Reply #33 |
58. That is a terrible thing to say. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
34. Blitzer tries to put the spin - with Hersh |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
37. Is this America or Darfur? |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
41. Family values?? |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
42. Also, Iraqi women in Abu Ghraib wanted their men to come and kill them... |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 04:19 AM Response to Reply #42 |
84. "They are in total terror it's going to come out." AND...? |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
44. MEMO TO REPUBLICON EVIL DOERS; Stop the torture in the name of the USA |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 03:19 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. The Congress, DOD, Media & Busholii Regime are |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
49. . |
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Broadslidin (949 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
50. Clearly Showing the World, the government encouraged "American Way" |
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triguy46 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
52. "fraternity pranks" according to limpballs. n/t |
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MediaPatrol (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
57. White House Hiding Behind Pictures |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 05:44 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. WELCOME TO DU! |
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diane in sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
59. This Republican sexual sadism came from the top Bush people. |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
65. It's not new,...just never approved by the JUNTA that inspired the sadism. |
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New Era (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
66. Hey, just shout |
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liberal renegade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
71. How much more of this are we gonna take? |
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Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
73. Wow, who'd have thought it? |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
75. This should be frontpage headlines at the Washington Post and the NY Times |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
76. We're all being tortured by Bush -- |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 09:22 AM Response to Reply #76 |
89. I agree with you. Welcome to DU! |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 01:27 AM Response to Original message |
79. Making sure that the perps responsible are held accountable is NOT on the table |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 01:33 AM Response to Original message |
80. There's only one place to find justice for this: |
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pansypoo53219 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
86. hmmm, rape rooms |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
87. I told my husband about this last night and he |
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