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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:31 PM Original message |
I'm told that welfare reform worked. |
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
1. I know Welfare Workers. |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. more or less my thoughts, |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
138. I would argue it has worked and it is better than the old system |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
2. It did work. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Might want a quick edit of your SL; it gives an entirely different meaning |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Fixed |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. she means your subject line. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Ohhhhhhh.... that. |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:38 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. why, I drove past one just Thursday of last week |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:46 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Reading? |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:51 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. it's a life of luxury, I tells ya! |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 08:08 PM Response to Reply #7 |
75. Homeless guy told me |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
4. WE do have a greater proportion of our population living below the poverty line now. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 05:14 PM Response to Reply #4 |
19. So, before welfare reform those recieving welfare were above the poverty line? |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 06:56 PM Response to Reply #19 |
36. You think they are better off now? Maybe they were in poverty but at least they were not all |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 08:35 PM Response to Reply #36 |
49. How many people have starved to death compared to before welfare reform? |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:37 PM Response to Reply #49 |
57. I think I remember how to use the ignore button now |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:44 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. I suppose that's easier than admitting that you are wrong |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 02:48 PM Response to Reply #49 |
87. When did we start stats on people starving to death in the US? |
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Rosemary2205 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
6. Yes the only goal was to chop the welfare rolls |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. while I agree with your subject line, |
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ikojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 07:34 PM Response to Reply #6 |
42. Bill Clinton campaigned for and signed welfare |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:10 PM Response to Reply #42 |
51. In 1992 Democratic primary voters chose Clinton after he promised to reform welfare |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 03:20 PM Response to Reply #51 |
101. Or perhaps most Americans didn't understand what the bill would really do. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
11. I don't think the rolls shrank. |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:45 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. good point. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 05:30 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. Welfare's been privatized... |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 05:42 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Pay big business to hire them |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 06:14 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. Well, not exactly. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 07:26 PM Response to Reply #29 |
39. That is where many of them went |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 08:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
45. Multi-million dollar non-profits |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:48 PM Response to Original message |
14. Like anything else in the realm of government, success is defined |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
17. Who told you that? Did they merely use 'welfare rolls' without including tracking of,... |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 05:11 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. I read it on the internets. edited |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 09:29 PM Response to Reply #17 |
131. we have kept track of people leaving welfare |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
21. I think it did work |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 05:45 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Providing benefits for working moms |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Question |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 05:51 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Oh I absolutely believe that |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 06:04 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Show me one |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 07:24 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. Why? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 08:26 PM Response to Reply #28 |
47. Startling statistics |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 04:02 PM Response to Reply #47 |
63. Nice try |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 07:57 PM Response to Reply #63 |
74. That was just two that I grabbed |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 10:56 AM Response to Reply #74 |
80. Never denied that |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 12:06 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. One out of five |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 02:18 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. I read your link--apparently you didn't |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 05:18 PM Response to Reply #85 |
90. The REST of the link |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 11:02 AM Response to Reply #90 |
95. Now we are getting somewhere |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 11:45 AM Response to Reply #95 |
96. No |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 03:08 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. Let me get this straight |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 06:24 PM Response to Reply #98 |
105. That's where you are |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:16 AM Response to Reply #105 |
108. You didn't refute a thing |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 01:06 PM Response to Reply #108 |
112. Except |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 02:58 PM Response to Reply #112 |
116. On that we agree |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 03:50 PM Response to Reply #116 |
121. Oh brother |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 04:05 PM Response to Reply #121 |
122. I agree |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 04:15 PM Response to Reply #122 |
125. Here's what you said |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #125 |
126. Yes I did say that |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 05:13 PM Response to Reply #26 |
127. Question: SSI and Welfare the same thing? |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 09:41 PM Response to Reply #127 |
133. Welfare and SSI are NOT the same thing. Welfare reform had nothing to do with SSI. n/t |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 09:33 PM Response to Reply #23 |
132. welfare reform has had no effect on mental illness |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. of course you do. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 06:02 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. You can always count on me |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 06:15 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. and I do! |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 06:27 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. so the gauntlet has been thrown |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 06:34 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. LOL - Nederland's a free-range capitalist |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 06:37 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. "welfare reform recipients decline while poverty rate increases" |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 08:04 PM Response to Reply #33 |
44. I think we are seeing an increase in armed robberies too |
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OnionPatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 08:21 PM Response to Reply #33 |
77. Hmmmm, don't you mean |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 12:35 PM Response to Reply #77 |
83. Yeah... sorry about that. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 02:29 PM Response to Reply #31 |
86. Question |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. Why do you think that is odd? |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 03:14 PM Response to Reply #88 |
99. Disagree |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 03:46 PM Response to Reply #99 |
104. I am not sure what you are talking about |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:39 AM Response to Reply #104 |
110. Do the math |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 01:22 PM Response to Reply #110 |
113. I question whether AFDC/TANF recipients had outside income. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #113 |
115. My fucking god - you CAN'T |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 03:22 PM Response to Reply #115 |
118. the question was about the past, about AFDC |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #118 |
120. Same program, new name |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 09:54 PM Response to Reply #115 |
135. yes, you can have income and get TANF...its on a sliding scale, just like food stamps. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 12:29 AM Response to Reply #135 |
139. They aren't getting a cash payment |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 01:18 AM Response to Reply #139 |
140. the gross income limit for TANF in my state is $1,050 for a family of 3 |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 02:13 AM Response to Reply #140 |
141. And they won't get any cash |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 02:31 AM Response to Reply #141 |
142. they won't get the full payment but they will get a payment if they earn less than $1,050. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 02:37 AM Response to Reply #142 |
143. It depends |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:14 AM Response to Reply #143 |
145. here's how it works in MY state |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 11:08 PM Response to Reply #145 |
148. 49 dollars?? |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 09:52 PM Response to Reply #104 |
134. TANF is no where near $10,177 per year nation wide |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 03:09 PM Response to Reply #134 |
147. that's actually a very good point |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 07:55 PM Response to Reply #99 |
106. I'm sorry, what are you saying? |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:20 AM Response to Reply #106 |
109. No |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 01:02 PM Response to Reply #109 |
111. Not when you have the facts |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 01:37 PM Response to Reply #111 |
114. important to note that food stamps and housing subsidies |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 03:04 PM Response to Reply #111 |
117. Do the math |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 03:27 PM Response to Reply #117 |
119. AFAIK food stamps were not affected by welfare reform |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #119 |
123. We have a semantic problem |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 09:11 PM Response to Reply #123 |
129. that's a different argument |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 11:13 AM Response to Reply #27 |
81. so what about kids who grow up with every material advantage |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
34. There are more homeless... |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
35. It didn't work, it's "working"... give it 6 months... |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 07:00 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. we're sending a surge of good jobs? |
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foxsux (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
40. It still sucks. |
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ikojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
41. Just as one is no longer considered unemployed |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:16 PM Response to Reply #41 |
54. So, you don't think that any of these people are capable of getting jobs like |
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ikojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 05:06 PM Response to Reply #54 |
69. I am of the belief that most people can work, |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
43. Want to reduce welfare rolls? Fight poverty. |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 04:13 PM Response to Reply #43 |
66. that's both too easy and impossible. |
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KG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
46. another great piece of progressive legislation championed by St Bill |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:14 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. I suppose if Democrats didn't want this they shouldn't have nominted Clinton in 1992, |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 03:27 PM Response to Reply #53 |
103. Well, he lied about worker protection in NAFTA, dropping them once in office. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:22 PM Response to Reply #46 |
55. and the all-important defense of marriage act... |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
48. it worked in many instances |
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ItNerd4life (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 12:21 PM Response to Reply #48 |
60. Agree, same type of personal story too. |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 03:51 PM Response to Reply #48 |
62. how often do you figure it worked out that well, though? |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 05:12 PM Response to Reply #62 |
70. It didn't work for everyone - I know this |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #48 |
65. What about mothers who can't get babysitting or day care? |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 04:42 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. They should get assistance for that too |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:00 PM Response to Reply #65 |
136. that was one of the provisions Clinton insisted on in passing welfare reform, more money for child |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
50. The so-called "safety net" is riddled with rotten threads |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
52. well- you don't see all those cadillac-driving welfare queens tooling around anymore, do you...? |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-18-07 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
56. Well, look at it historically... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 11:56 AM Response to Reply #56 |
59. poverty is good for business |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 03:50 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. a wee |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 07:49 PM Response to Reply #56 |
73. this also corresponds with the war on unions |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #56 |
92. That is a measure of relative poverty which is a little different |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
64. Welfare Reform is a good idea in theory, if we had other social services |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
67. It did work. It "triangulated" Bill into the White House. Too bad about the poor. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 05:19 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. eh, who cares, right? |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 07:17 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Certainly not the politicians who put their ambitions first. |
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GOPisEvil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
76. It "worked" as far as saving money and transferring public roles to the private sector. |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-19-07 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
78. "COMFY" on Welfare? And where are all the jobs for "off the rolls?" |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 10:32 AM Response to Reply #78 |
79. If only we could recommend posts... |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 07:25 PM Response to Reply #79 |
93. Thank you! The pervasiveness of myths about welfare is a testament |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #78 |
97. Great post! Especially this point: |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 05:41 AM Response to Reply #97 |
146. Very true. No middle class jobs left. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 08:02 PM Response to Reply #78 |
107. Deserves its own thread |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 04:14 PM Response to Reply #78 |
124. I recommend this post... |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 09:18 PM Response to Reply #124 |
130. Thank you raccoon, sandnsea, and butterfly77 |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:02 PM Response to Reply #78 |
137. welfare reform did not change anything about education |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 02:50 AM Response to Reply #78 |
144. Truth demands a 5th unofficial recommendation. |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
84. I'm told trickle-down economics works too! |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 04:59 PM Response to Reply #84 |
89. well said n/t |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
91. Food Stamps have taken its place. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
94. Star Parker would agree! ;) |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
100. Well, when people are forced off of welfare and die, they tend to cut the numbers. |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 08:22 PM Response to Reply #100 |
128. it's hard to ask questions. |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 11:24 PM Response to Reply #100 |
149. Yeah and they die in the summer without air conditioning. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
102. GORE encouraged Clinton to overturn 60+ years of Welfare Guarantees -- |
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