Couple Wants 50k To Not Abort

[Nomad559]

What The Hell Is This?

Are These People For Real?

http://www.helpmybabylive.com

About Us
As happens to many young couples, my girlfriend and I have found ourselves confronted with a decision to make about having a child, and we're not sure what to do. There are many options available to us, and a difficult evaluation of the responsibilities and obligations, as well as the joys, that come with raising a child.

Our two real options are either having and raising the child, or aborting. While we'd like to think that adoption is a viable option for us, my girlfriend doesn't believe that she'd be able to give up a child after giving birth to it, and that's not something I'm going to pressure us into doing. We also don't want to be subconsciously resentful of a child that we kept when we weren't ready for it. If we're not ready to raise it, we're not going to bring a baby into the world.

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We Need Your Help
It comes down to this. If we can't raise the $50,000 in the next 3 months, we'll have to choose abortion. We don't like it, and we don't like the nature of our appeal, but it is what it is. We're asking you to donate money to us using the link to your left. Anything you can give would be appreciated.

Understand that you are giving the money to us, with no obligation on our part. We want to remain anonymous, for our sake and for that of our child, if we have one. We don't think it'd be right for anyone to know that their existance depended upon a fiscal calculation, regardless of the rationality of that decision. We're not going to contact you, we're not going to post pictures, we're not going to give you status updates. After three months, our decision will be made, and this site will go away.

:wtf:

[HCE SuiGeneris]

1. I'll provide 1K

swift kicks up their backsides. F'n idiots.

[DS1]

8. Damn

I was about to hit you up for some money for camera gear

[firefox_fan]

29. Can science have the stem cells if they abort?

[Deja Q]

2. Send them here:

http://www.house.gov/

http://www.senate.gov/

http://www.whitehouse.gov/

[Solly Mack]

3. They should ask for more

I'm betting they'll get takers

Of course it's BS

[Horse with no Name]

4. Emotional extortion.

Nobody seriously approaches the issue of abortion this way. This is someone who is just trying to make some cash by playing on the sympathies of the Anti-Abortion movement.

[aquart]

13. And I think it's lovely.

Put your money where your big fat mouths are, duckies.

[Fridays Child]

31. Remember the guy who ran the savetoby.com site?

He made something like $27,000 before the people running PayPal decided to place themselves in the position of censor and shut down his account.

P.T. Barnum's rule applies here, as well. Suckers who are, indeed, born every minute will send this person money. And, since it's the ultimate in cynical capitalism, wing nuts had best not complain. I just love it when their rhetoric bumps right up against itself, don't you?

[Faux pas]

89. I'm with you on this. I've always wanted some poor woman fighting

through the pro-lifers picket lines to get into to an abortion clinic to ask any of those a-holes if they wanted to raise her unwanted/unplanned for child. If not, then shut the F up and get outta the way.

[DS1]

5. Fucking Hell. Talk about a winner for the GOP

A) If they don't get the money, all the pundits can point to the liberal left bloggers who don't put their money where their mouth is
B) If they don't get the money, I'm assuming they're NOT going to send back all the checks/paypal orders
C) If they don't get the money, Mitt Romney, McCain, Guiliani etc can jump in and be the 'hero'
D) If they do get the money, they're 50 grand richer anyway, and could just "change their mind" or have a GOP prez candidate

this stinks of right-wing plant

[Horse with no Name]

14. Actually I think it is a nut on the Pro-Choice side

Kind of a put up or shut up.

[mondo joe]

18. Me too. Let all the anti-choicers put up the $.

Even if it's a scam, it's a better use of their $ than terrorizing Planned Parenthood.

[Montauk6]

69. Quick curiosity about Point A, DS1

Though it's true the freepers can spin to the point of gross absurdity, this one baffles me. Wouldn't the onus be on the right to raise the cash as they're so against abortion? I can understand if, say, the con artists (and I'm convinced this thing is a total scam) were crying, "if we can't raise (INSERT RANDOM DOLLAR AMT HERE) to abort, we're going to have to bring an unwanted child into the world blah blah blah."

[onenote]

6. one of the more transparent scams ever

My guess is that there is no couple, no baby, no anything. Just some whacky idea by an abortion foe to do something that they stupidly think will make the pro-choice side look bad, which of course it doesn't.

[shadowknows69]

7. Interesting way to blackmail the fundies though

gotta admit that. Churches put your money where your mouth is and help this couple "choose life".

[BurtWorm]

60. Interesting. You know I think I'm starting to feel a little pregnant myself...

:think:

[LisaL]

64. I would pay them if they promised to not reproduce.

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[blondeatlast]

10. Extort much? First on the terms and conditions:

You are _giving_ us money, with no expectation of getting anything in return, ever. We are not obligated to do, or refrain from, anything as a result of your or anyone else's donation.

In other words, fork over the cash and we'll still do what we want.

[Dukkha]

11. something PT Barnum said comes to mind

something about one being born every minute. :eyes:

[Infomaniac]

12. WTF?

Truly bizarre.

[WindRavenX]

15. Please. This screams scam.

And if it is legit, hey--ain't American grand? :eyes:

[Caution]

16. Sadly they'll get the cash too.

As soon as the right to life whackjobs find this one. hell they'll probably make a cool million.

[LisaL]

17. What on Earth?

And of course they are anonymous, so is there even a way to prove she is actually pregnant?
By the way, what are the laws on how late into pregnancy can it be terminated?
Presumably she would have to be some time into the pregnancy (to know that she is pregnant), and if they are going to wait another three months?

[blondeatlast]

27. Read the T&Cs, it doesn't matter anyway.

They specifically state they will do what they want to do and won't disclose whether they raised the cash or not.

[bettyellen]

19. Bev Harris, is that you?

[sniffa]

21. *snort*

:rofl:

[blondeatlast]

23. Geez--it does sound like her SOP, doesn't it? Yikes. nt

[gollygee]

20. I wouldn't assume there is actually any pregnancy behind this

I bet it's someone wanting to make a quick buck.

I hope nobody is stupid enough to give them money.

[w13rd0]

22. How long...

...until some right winger files a criminal complaint that this couple is "holding an infant hostage for ransom"?

[Warpy]

24. More power to them

I seriously doubt this is legit. In fact, the vision I'm getting is of a couple of dissolute college guys hammering the website out between drunks, giggling insanely all the way.

Anyone who can get the antiabortionists to cough up has my blessing, though, since those are the last people to care about somebody else's problems beyond making sure they wring the last bit of misery out of them.

Oh, and the bottom line for choice is whether or not the woman wants that child at this time. Period.

[Miss Chybil]

25. Three months...

Cutting it kind of close, isn't it? No names. No photos. What a scam.

[Joe for Clark]

26. Well, takes at least that to give a child a chance - Agreed.

We need to know you keep the kid or you refund the monies.

That is reasonable and fair.

Can you do that?? And what exactly does your church say??

Joe

[DS1]

30. Show us an ultra-sound signed by a notary public first

which of course, itself would be easy to fake

[Joe for Clark]

40. Something - You know??

Not asking much - just reasonable.

If it were true - I have no problem helping out.

I would like to know if the church is - A left wing christian, but reasoned thing I guess.

I don't assume more than this reasonable thing.

If it is your potential childs life against reasonable questions - you answer the questions.

If you can't or won't - guess that "life" didn't mean much to you to begin with - right??

Joe

[firefox_fan]

28. Let me understand. They are asking us money so that they can

duplicate their genes... Odd request... They should be asking their relatives, since it's their genes too. Not strangers.

[Demeter]

32. And It Seems Like As Far As IQ Goes, Their Genes Aren't Worth Duplicating

[geomon666]

33. Let them go to a fundie church and ask that shit.

See how many takers they can get.

[frebrd]

34. It may turn out to be...

quite a profitable scam. I imagine there'll be quite a number of people hysterically invested enough in this subject to actually donate.

:rofl:

[Ellen Forradalom]

35. Give Me $50,000 Or I Wipe My Hard Drive

Documents, pictures, MP3s and software all beginning for a chance to live! Give early and often!

[slackmaster]

36. OH MY GAWD, SHE REALLY MEANS IT!

[Ellen Forradalom]

58. IM SERIES!!1!11! THIS IS HUGH!1!!

Give me your money you morans!

[firefox_fan]

41. I'll toss my computer out of the window unless I get 25K!

Hurry up.

[jazzjunkysue]

37. A stunt Michael Moore would be proud of.

"OK! The bidding starts at $100. Do I hear $150?"

There will be rethugs who fall for this. Count on it.
:rofl:

[mudesi]

38. Are people actually falling for this obvious scam?

:eyes:

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[firefox_fan]

42. Is it tax free?

Perhaps we can get them for tax evasion by reporting this to the IRS. Let's do that and let the IRS investigate.

[BlooInBloo]

43. Nothing like being gullible.

[firefox_fan]

44. I wrote to them that I'd be willing to donate 25K to save a baby's life, BUT...

I will never use PayPal. Only a check. See what they say.

[Joe for Clark]

45. Smart post -

I am not a very good catholic - but I know if they are telling the truth, the parish will step in to some extent. I am pretty sure.

If they didn't and it was true - extraordinary claims do require extraordinary proofs.

I like this post you made - you cut to the chase very well.

Joe

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[Dorian Gray]

46. Wow...

what sick human beings.

[ShaneGR]

47. Wow, that deserves a new law or something....

That's just sick. I doubt it's even real.

[firefox_fan]

48. Could it be a scam? Ahahahah!

[dflprincess]

49. Reminds me of the National Lampoon cover from way back

There was a picture of a dog and someone was holding a gun to its head. The caption was "Buy this magazine or we'll shoot the dog."

[originalpckelly]

51. I've seen it done, only with a cute fuzzy bunny wabbit!

Of course there are far more honest ways of doing it, I remember hearing this guy sold space on an advertising page by the pixel, he ended up with a million bucks!

[krispos42]

91. Yeah, for college money

and I think a house. But he kept people informed. The London Times bought a nice big rectangle and put their logo on it, but a 2x2 pixel array cost $100 so a bunch of people bought little tiny specks and put all sorts of oddball links on there. It's like buying a brick to fund some public-works project.

Air America Phoenix did a fundraiser with it last year after the Christians bought out the old AAR affiliate.

[Stinky The Clown]

50. Hahahahaha Haaaaaa hahahahahahaha

Funniest scam I've seen in a while.

I hope every fundy in Fundyland gives a few bucks.

[Iris]

52. How will the money help them avoid being "subconciously resentful of a child that we kept

when we weren't ready"?

[susanna]

57. No kidding. My first thought, too! n/t

[nini]

53. Only if they both promise to get sterlized

assholes.

[ribrepin]

54. Well, they've racked up $1,340.00 so far

It'll be interesting to see how much they rack up.

[SOteric]

55. How much would they give me for not getting knocked up in the first place?

I mean, theoretically.

:shrug:

[uppityperson]

65. I almost posted that but thought better of it.

worded it a bit more graphically too, so probably for the best.

[LoZoccolo]

56. Check out the "terms and conditions".

* You are _giving_ us money, with no expectation of getting anything in return, ever. We are not obligated to do, or refrain from, anything as a result of your or anyone else's donation.
* You do not, and will never, know who we are. You agree not to try to find out who we are. You agree not to contact InvisiHosting about our site. You agree that knowing our identitiy is not a condition of your gift. You agree to not disclose any information about us to any other party.
* This is not a non-profit. You don't get to write this off on your taxes, and we have to pay taxes on any gifts you give us.
* You agree to pay only through PayPal and only to the account of InvisiHosting, LLC, who will then transfer the money to us at the end of three months.
* You agree not to hold InvisiHosting, LLC liable for any actions on our part. You agree that they are not responsible for any dissatisfaction that you may experience as a result of donating to us.
* You agree to forfeit $25,000 per violation of these terms.

[BurtWorm]

61. I can feel my own morning sickness coming on...

:evilgrin:

[MadAsHellNewYorker]

59. Can we abort the both of them?

:puke:

[LittleClarkie]

62. They're sort of holding Eddie the Embryo hostage, aren't they.

Sounds like one hell of a scam.

[Canuckistanian]

63. 50k? That's pretty damn cheap

The fundies probably spent 10 times that amount on Terri Schiavo alone.

C'mon, up the ante, you two!

And where is that woman who screamed "Babiiiiies, we want lots of babieeees!" I'm sure she could chip in a few bucks.

[Richard Steele]

66. Holy crap- what a sociopathic SCAM!

You know what's really ironic: it won't be any "Right-to-lifers"
sending them the $$$, it'll be all us evil "liberals".

They could put this in every fundie "church newsletter" in the country,
and they wouldn't make the 50 grand. Putting it on some LIBERAL blogs
will get the $$$ rolling in!

Nomad, I'll see your :wtf: and raise you a :banghead:
That's some seriously fucked-up shit right there.

[ShaneGR]

67. Srry, we've only received $48,245.00 to birth our bastard child who we dont really want anyways....

Off to Cancun!

[Tektonik]

68. This is so fake...

but hilarious nonetheless :rofl:

[malta blue]

70. Some people just should not breed...

and these two certainly shouldn't. What a pair of asshats.

scam artists....

[RogueSpirit]

71. Wouldn't this be murder?

Don't shout me down just yet. Consider this...

It's not too much of a stretch for this to be considered extortion, which is a felony. Any time a death occurs during or as a result of a felony, it is considered murder. I mean, Scott Peterson was charged for murder on his unborn child, so it's not a huge leap for this to be viewed in this manner

[KneelBeforeZod]

72. Actually - I think I'm with you on this ....

It is certainly illegal to hold an unborn child for ransom, and, as you noted in the Peterson case, a person can be tried for the murder of an unborn child. Would it not also be illegal for the parents of an unborn child to hold that child for ransom?

The question is whether a mother can be held responsible for the termination of an unborn child when she is as clearly distorted as this mother is. A father can certainly be held responsible (i.e. Scott Peterson). In cases like this ... I might support prosecution of both parents.

The right to choose is one thing ... the right to use that choice to extort money from the public is another entirely. This would be analagous to Terri Schaivo's husband offering to keep her alive if people paid a "hefty ransom" (cue Dr. Evil) ...

This type of callousness only makes the Choice community look ridiculous ... and is insulting to all of those women who have agonized over the difficult decision to terminate a pregnancy.

H

[northzax]

73. well, it's a step up from the

"If I don't get $10,000, I will kill this rabbit" scam of last year.

[RogueSpirit]

74. apperently, these two bozo's already killed the rabbit

[triguy46]

75. Does anyone here remember the National Lampoon cover...

back in the 70s, a gun held to a border collie's head, with the text: "If you don't buy this magazine we'll kill this dog". This may just be the same joke, v2.0.

here's a link to a picture of the cover:

http://cgi.ebay.com/NATIONAL-LAMPOON-JAN-1973-DOG-ISSUE-MOST-POPULAR-ISS_W0QQitemZ260128182875QQihZ016QQcategoryZ280QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

76. Be interesting to see if the pro-preggers are willing to put their money where their mouths are.

[Homer Wells]

77. Reminds me of Oral Roberts

who told his parishioners (and the Christian world in general)that God would call him home if he did not receive some exorbitant amount of money by a certain date.

:eyes:

[Rosemary2205]

82. He climbed up a pole and said he'd die up there unless he got $1 million.

March 22, 1987 - 1 Mil is a drop in the bucket for Roberts. I think his annual take at the time was around 90 million.

[ribrepin]

78. They are really raking it in---$4,551.00

Nice scam!!

[SidDithers]

79. Good for them...

lets see how the fundies react to this. If they're really pro-life, they'll cough up.

Sid

[StudentsMustUniteNow]

80. Disgraceful. They're holding a fetus hostage. Utterly sick n/t

[FloridaJudy]

81. The human race does not need these people's DNA that badly

Either it's a scam, or it's extortion. In either case, this is piss-poor parental material.

[hyphenate]

84. Regardless of their desire for anonymity

There are several ways for law enforcement to begin a search for them if they so desire--and also for others to check it out as well.

First, check with whois.net to see who owns the domain.

Second, if any kind of posting can be found by them, they can be traced through their IP address.

Third, I would imagine if it's a couple of creative college students, they won't keep their mouths shut for very long, and eventually someone's gonna say something.


Now, IMHO, again regardless of who it is, I am fascinated. How can anyone on the right really hope to get the pro-choice folks contribute to this? I mean, I don't know about anyone else, but let's face it: our stance is to say to these people (couple or not), "good for you!" and comment them on having the right to decide which decision they're going to make.

Three months at the outside would place the woman at the beginning of a third tri-mester, the beginning of which is the end for most legal abortions (except yada, yada, "partial-borth abortions"), so that could happen if this is legit, which I strongly doubt.

No, the ones who would pay are the delusional folks on the radical religious right who will use this as just one example of how depraved those of us on the left are. However, since it sounds like a con game anyhow, we can all enjoy a little larceny of the gullible idiots on the right while their pockets are being emptied. :)

[Blue_Tires]

85. scamtastic

anyone that donates the first dollar to this shameless cash grab needs to have their reproductive organs stabbed with a salt-coated icepick

[Alexander]

87. No pictures, no details? Sounds like a scam.

Don't give a goddamn dime to whoever these people are.

[Jim Warren]

88. Maybe they'll bargain

$50K or BO :eyes:

[krispos42]

90. Can't find the owner on a whois search, either

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There was some nut in Canada doing something similar a few years ago. He had a duck tucked under his arm and he would walk up to people in city parks and threaten to break the duck's neck unless the person gave him $20.

I think it was in "News of the Weird".

[ProdigalJunkMail]

92. send me money or I'll kill this puppy n/t

[datasuspect]

93. site registered on 6-16-07

and up to 4k already?

damn, that's a good haul already.