If you don't hate Rumsfeld with every fiber of your body after reading Hersh on Taguba

[BurtWorm]

you're just way too fucking nice and you need to learn some mean.


http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/06/25/070625fa_fact_hersh?printable=true

...

Rumsfeld, in his appearances before the Senate and the House Armed Services Committees on May 7th, claimed to have had no idea of the extensive abuse. “It breaks our hearts that in fact someone didn’t say, ‘Wait, look, this is terrible. We need to do something,’ ” Rumsfeld told the congressmen. “I wish we had known more, sooner, and been able to tell you more sooner, but we didn’t.”

Rumsfeld told the legislators that, when stories about the Taguba report appeared, “it was not yet in the Pentagon, to my knowledge.” As for the photographs, Rumsfeld told the senators, “I say no one in the Pentagon had seen them”; at the House hearing, he said, “I didn’t see them until last night at 7:30.” Asked specifically when he had been made aware of the photographs, Rumsfeld said:


There were rumors of photographs in a criminal prosecution chain back sometime after January 13th . . . I don’t remember precisely when, but sometime in that period of January, February, March. . . . The legal part of it was proceeding along fine. What wasn’t proceeding along fine is the fact that the President didn’t know, and you didn’t know, and I didn’t know.

“And, as a result, somebody just sent a secret report to the press, and there they are,” Rumsfeld said.

Taguba, watching the hearings, was appalled. He believed that Rumsfeld’s testimony was simply not true. “The photographs were available to him—if he wanted to see them,” Taguba said. Rumsfeld’s lack of knowledge was hard to credit. Taguba later wondered if perhaps Cambone had the photographs and kept them from Rumsfeld because he was reluctant to give his notoriously difficult boss bad news. But Taguba also recalled thinking, “Rumsfeld is very perceptive and has a mind like a steel trap. There’s no way he’s suffering from C.R.S.—Can’t Remember Shit. He’s trying to acquit himself, and a lot of people are lying to protect themselves.” It distressed Taguba that Rumsfeld was accompanied in his Senate and House appearances by senior military officers who concurred with his denials.

“The whole idea that Rumsfeld projects—‘We’re here to protect the nation from terrorism’—is an oxymoron,” Taguba said. “He and his aides have abused their offices and have no idea of the values and high standards that are expected of them. And they’ve dragged a lot of officers with them.”

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:grr:

[kurth]

1. Rumsfeld is a pathological liar

just like all the other members of the pathological administration.

[bobthedrummer]

2. War Criminal and profiteer "Secretary Rumsfeld speaks on '21st Century Transformation'

oif U.S. Armed Forces" Ft. McNair 1-31-2002
http://www.defenselink.mil/speeches/2002/s20020131-secdef.html

Transcript of Rumsfeld's Commando Solo II mission broadcast: "Message To The People of Iraq" 4-30-2003
http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/transcript.aspx?transcriptid=2543

"Shaking Hands With Saddam Hussein:The US Tilts Towards Iraq 1980-1984" National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book 82
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/index.htm

[Disturbed]

4. I have loathed Rumsfailed more than any other of the Fascists

in the Busholini Regime. Every time I saw his name on DU I posted the following:

Rumsfeld Shouldn't be Fired, He Should be Indicted
by Matthew Rothschild

“Secretary Rumsfeld has publicly admitted that . . . he ordered an Iraqi national held in Camp Cropper, a high security detention center in Iraq, to be kept off the prison’s rolls and not presented to the International Committee of the Red Cross,” the report noted. The Geneva Conventions require countries to grant the Red Cross access to all detainees. “

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0418-24.htm




Further Evidence Rumsfeld Implicated in War Crimes
Please read this important post by Marty Lederman, Army Confirms: Rumsfeld Authorized Criminal Conduct.

Here's a key section, but there's more:
The Army's charges against Jordan reflect the view, undoubtedly correct, that the use of forced nudity or intimidation with dogs against detainees subject to military control constitutes cruelty and maltreatment that Article 93 makes criminal. It doesn't matter whether they are or are not "torture," as such; nor does it matter whether the armed forces should be permitted to use such interrogation techniques: As things currently stand, they are unlawful, as even the Army now acknowledges.

But then how can we account for the actions of the Secretary of Defense and his close aides?

On November 27, 2002, Pentagon General Counsel William Haynes, following discussions with Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz, General Myers, and Doug Feith, informed the Secretary of Defense that forced nudity and the use of the fear of dogs to induce stress were lawful techniques, and he recommended that they be approved for use at Guantanamo.
(The lists of techniques to which Haynes was referring can be found in this memorandum.) On December 2, 2002, Secretary Rumsfeld approved those techniques for use at Guantanamo -- and subsequently those techniques were used on detainee Mohammed al-Qahtani.

In other words, the Secretary of Defense authorized criminal conduct.

...

Today's Army charge under UCMJ Article 93 against Lt. Col. Jordan -- for conduct that the SecDef actually authorized as to some detainees -- demonstrates that Rumsfeld approved of, and encouraged, violations of the criminal law.

http://www.discourse.net/archives/2006/04/further_evidence_rumsfeld_implicated_in_war_crimes.html

[BeHereNow]

3. I think the Rummy is clinical, as in PSYCHOPATH.

I know many want to see him in prison, but I think
locked away in a psych ward is more a more appropriate
place for him.
BHN

[Canuckistanian]

5. Rumsfeld was a micromanaging FREAK

He had his grubby mitts on everything and his goons were everywhere.

AND he was a politician first, an administrator as a distant second.

He knew about it the second those pics and videos were transmitted to the Pentagon, you can bet.

He ordered it. He knew about it.

[BeHereNow]

6. Of COURSE he did!

Now what America?
Are you just going to SIT there?
Sadly, I expect so.
BHN

[Amonester]

7. And a Kick 'n a Rec in hopes for the rule of law will prevail.

Even if I - and we - have good reasons to fear it never will ... :mad:

[ninkasi]

8. Rumsfeld, Bush, and Cheney

are all sociopaths. They revel in other people's pain, death, and suffering. They couldn't imagine that they would ever face any consequences for their sadistic, illegal behavior. We need to prove them wrong by impeachment, and prosecution. They are not fit to be in charge of any position which involves having control over others, whether human or animal.

They are not fit to be able to carry on in any civilized country. They need to be prosecuted for war crimes, and serve long, long prison terms.

[Decruiter]

9. I like to believe just maybe we finally have "our" Daniel Ellsberg...

just maybe, just hoping. Between he and Mr. Hersh, just maybe!!!

Oh, Happy Day!!!!!!

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. I don't hate him

what I want is to see him at the Hague.. PRONTO

But hate... hate eats you and its not that healthy

I leave the hate for those who have been eaten by it, such as oh Rummy.

But I will repeat this, I want him at the docket at the hague for all the war crimes we know off and the ones I am sure we will be shocked to find out about... there is more. This is the tip of the proverbial iceberg.

[Kurovski]

11. It's the coldness.

Rumsferatu, as he has been dubbed. Coldness and calculation.

[BurtWorm]

13. kick

[alphafemale]

12. Hell. I've hated rumsfeld at least since "cakewalk" and "looting is freedom"

But I'm funny that way.