If they allow Scooter to get a pardon, don't expect them to get Bush or Cheney.

[The Backlash Cometh]

Time to accept the truth. Some white males are so well-connected in this country that they can do ANYTHING, without any fear of repercussion. Maybe the reasons change, but political favors and leverage are alive and well in this country, and the sooner we face up to it, the sooner they will understand why no one has respect for our government any more.


Scooter will get his pardon, because if he goes to jail, he'll sing like a bird. And the Republican constituents certainly won't launch a media circus about it, like they did over Clinton, because they're hypocrites and because they know that it's to their advantage that white male Americans stay entitled in this country.

Rumsfeld was allowed to ride shotgun as he went into Iraq to get rid of the one man on this planet that could besmirch his reputation. Saddam was hanged, and with him, went the one witness that could have caused members of this Administration serious trouble.

Cheney outed Valerie Plame, and the front law firm that would have investigated companies that were doing business with Iran. He held secret energy meetings, which may have been the impetus for 9/11, he's adversely possessing land which belongs to American Indians. He's the "king," and he's not even president.

Bush. Bush reminds me of the defendant who can't be tried in court because he's not competent enough to understand the charges against him. And instead of being sent to the mental institution, he's allowed to run it.

Seriously, can you ever look at a white male Republican in the eye and not think to yourself, because they're allowed to lie, cheat, steal and kill without fear of repercussion, this country will never see an even playing field in my lifetime.

[Donnachaidh]

1. umm -- exactly WHAT if anything, can Congress DO if he IS pardoned?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think they can do much about it. So inferring that Congress will *allow* anything towards a pardon is a misnomer. :shrug:

[The Backlash Cometh]

2. OUTRAGE!

And it's not Congress that I was talking about. It's the American people. Congress has the opportunity to make news about it by proceeding with the impeachment and putting on the record those who are blocking it. Out the sons of bitches. Let the American public do the rest.

[havocmom]

4. a Scooter pardon will enrage the people even more

Our job is to empower them with some tools and knowledge. Our job is to help focus the rage to a constructive power that might yet save the nation.

[The Backlash Cometh]

6. That's what I'm talking about.

The media is peddling the message, planting the seed, that it will be less divisive to the country if they pardon the s.o.b. Let's prove them wrong.

[ThomWV]

16. It Can Drive Them To Impeach Him For All The Other Offenses Against The Nation

[Donnachaidh]

17. I'm not saying I disagree with you - I want impeachment

But, for argument's sake -- I don't see how this will prompt Congress to impeach. And you also haven't factored in the continuing obstructionist tactics of the Republican members of Congress. No one seems to factor THAT in the equation.

After all, the Gonzo no confidence vote sunk like a balloon. Why would this be any different? There are far too many republicans who are willing to obstruct justice further, because Scooter is a party member.

[davidwparker]

3. "can you ever look at a white male Republican" - No. If you are Republican

and I have to interact with that person because of job or close family, I no longer associate with anyone who is republican. I just can't stand to be around them.

I also no longer participate in this economy unless it's something like food, shelter, or clothing. Or, to help a local contractor do something to my house.

I will also not support the Democratic party until impeachment is on the table.

Drop out. Peacefully. That's how I now roll.

[The Backlash Cometh]

5. Waiting.

I think we're all waiting.

[acmavm]

7. You impress me. And I mean that seriously.

How do you avoid them at work?

I already avoid family members who are political asswipes. But the job thing makes me curious.

[TwilightGardener]

9. LOL! I have in-laws that are Republican (my husband's sister and her husband)

and I have made it known that their political views are repugnant to me, and a slap in the face of my (Air Force) family (I guess she wants her own brother to die or get maimed in Iraq?). Things are, uh, a little tense right now.

[The Backlash Cometh]

13. My heart goes out to you.

[davidwparker]

11. at work, it's not that political. we have human resource rules. I know that

I've read here where people have bosses who spout the RW lines and I know that is tough. but, if I know someone is a republican, I keep the conversation only to work.

[The Backlash Cometh]

14. I did lose it once.

To the least of the Republican apologists, I lost it and yelled at him, "Your boy is going DOWN, and I'm going to enjoy every second of it."

Of course, that was before the 2004 election. Looks like the one going down is Pelosi, if you know what I mean.

[Dhalgren]

8. Pretty soon "dropping out" may be the only safe thing we have left to do...

[Donnachaidh]

18. Dropping out does not help -- it aids the Republicans

and what the heck does a person's color have to do with any of this?

Drop out and the rest of the country will be steamrolled. It's already happened twice - when Gore and Kerry didn't fight back.

[EFerrari]

10. But, Nixon tried to protect people, too (to protect himself)

and that's didn't work out for him. :shrug:

[whistle]

12. Plus look at the nut jobs who support Scooter Libby...

<snip>
Scooter Libby Supporters Threaten Judge’s Life and Family -- June 14 2007

So much for the rule of law and order from conservatives. Judge Walton, the judge who ruled on Libby’s perjury case has claimed he received death threats.

The federal judge who oversaw I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby’s CIA leak trial said Thursday that he received threatening letters and phone calls after sentencing the former White House aide to prison.

“I received a number of angry, harassing mean-spirited phone calls and letters,” U.S. District Judge Reggie B. Walton said. “Some of those were wishing bad things on me and my family.”

Walton made the remarks as he opened a hearing into whether to delay Libby’s 2 1/2-year sentence. He said he was holding the letters in case something happened but said they would have no effect on Thursday’s decision.

Wow.

A question for conservatives. How effective is the rule of law and order if judges’ lives are threatened?

http://thegooddemocrat.wordpress.com/2007/06/14/scooter-libby-supporters-threaten-judges-life-and-family/

[The Backlash Cometh]

15. They have no respect for judges or the courts.

That's why they put up with charlatans like Scalia and Thomas. They're there to fulfill a purpose and the fact that those two come across about as objective as Sara Lee judging a baking contest, is irrelevant to them.

And the fact that our elections are being stolen, is irrelevant to them, as long as they're the ones doing the stealing.