TV Show "24" Helps Scalia Explain US Constitution

[Disturbed]

TV Show "24" Helps Scalia Explain US Constitution



The Supreme Court Justice cites Jack Bauer and the Hollywood torture show "24" as relevant background for constitutional jurisprudence:

"Jack Bauer saved Los Angeles. ... He saved hundreds of thousands of lives," Judge Scalia said. Then, recalling Season 2, where the agent's rough interrogation tactics saved California from a terrorist nuke, the Supreme Court judge etched a line in the sand.
"Are you going to convict Jack Bauer?" Judge Scalia challenged his fellow judges. "Say that criminal law is against him? 'You have the right to a jury trial?' Is any jury going to convict Jack Bauer? I don't think so.

"So the question is really whether we believe in these absolutes. And ought we believe in these absolutes."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/06/19/tv-show-24-helps-scalia_n_52813.html

[PSPS]

1. Made-up "Constitutional jurisprudence" based on made-up stories and characters.

"Five fingers" Scalia is a real piece of work.

[fujiyama]

2. Well after last season

"24" Jumped the Shark.

And as for Scalia, he jumped it long ago. This is pathetic.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

3. I Wouldn't Convict Jack Bauer.

But then, that's cause I know the people he's doing that to are guilty. Not quite so easy to determine that in real life.

[depakid]

6. That's because you don't believe in the rule of law

There are concepts and values that are larger and more important than the facts one sees at the end of one's nose.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

7. What A Stupid Personal Attack That Is. Grow Up Kid.

[depakid]

11. Not a personal attack- just pointing out that what you posted

demonstrates a lack of respect for the rule of law- and the concepts underlying it.

Belief in the guilt of the "victim" doesn't excuse violations on the part of the authorities.

[TwilightGardener]

4. I can't believe L.A. doesn't already have a Jack Bauer Day.

Key to the city and all that. What's that you say? Fiction?

[Botany]

5. Thread started

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3326675

[OregonBlue]

8. But the fault in his logic is that if it were really the case that Bauer had to toture someone

because he was certain that terrorists were going to blow up Los Angeles and that person knew the facts, Bauer would have the right to a trial and no jury would convict him. Therefore, if that eventuality ever did arise, he would be acquitted by a jury of his peers. Therefore, we do not need to torture as a matter of routine. You cannot argue that it is fine to torture everyone because someone, sometime might have information.

[Ilsa]

9. Anyone who has watched the show over the last two seasons

knows that there has been a strong undercurrent of anti-neocon-ism.

[Melynn]

13. That's true but the show still suck last season

If they start out badly next season, I'm going to give up watching.

[Johonny]

10. Would a jury

convict the owl of stealing the kids Tootsie roll pop. I think not.

[TwilightGardener]

12. ...

:yourock: :rofl: