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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 02:44 PM Original message |
David Schuster: "You guys are winning. The mainstream media is losing our audience by the day." |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
1. M$M aren't particularly interested in the bottom line. |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 02:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. exactly--why do they fire their liberal ratings winners? |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 03:23 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. To be fair, Donahue had abysmal ratings on MSNBC. n/t |
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zalinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 03:26 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Love Donahue, but HATED his show on MSNBC n/t |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 03:48 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Same here, I loved it when he socked to Bill O'Really... |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 03:43 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. His was the highest rated show in MSNBC history. |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. thank you! |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. At one point he had dismal ratings. |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 06:51 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. But Keith OIbermann has also pointed out that Donahue's show was extremely expensive |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 10:18 PM Response to Reply #26 |
40. Donahue's guest from February 2003 was Scott Ritter who said there were no WMD's in Iraq. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 10:55 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Yep. He couldn't be the anti-war "face" of MSMBCollaborators. |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 10:23 PM Response to Reply #18 |
41. Want to see high ratings at MSNBC - hire Donahue back! |
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madamesilverspurs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:37 AM Response to Reply #41 |
74. Well, Abrams |
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dmr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 01:19 AM Response to Reply #18 |
52. Donahue: "We had to have two conservatives on for every liberal. I was counted as two liberals." |
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TheDebbieDee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 11:05 PM Response to Reply #14 |
46. "Donahue had abysmal ratings on MSNBC" - Source? |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 09:18 AM Response to Reply #14 |
70. No. Donahue had some of the best ratings on MSNBC, actually. (nt) |
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liberalmike27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:18 AM Response to Reply #14 |
73. To be fair |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 11:02 AM Response to Reply #14 |
75. No, he didn't. He was first in his time slot (in cable news) |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 10:02 PM Response to Reply #8 |
39. Because when they begin to report any truth the whole wall of lies crumbles -- |
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trudyco (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 03:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. Sure they are - and the propaganda has netted the parent |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 03:21 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Well, yes. My point, really, was that the bottom line for which they are working |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 06:53 PM Response to Reply #12 |
27. You act as if GE were NOTHING but a defense contractor. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 11:46 PM Response to Reply #27 |
48. Imean, GE brings good things to Life! |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #27 |
80. Not really. I acknowledge that GE has lots of interests besides the war. |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #27 |
82. I don't buy GE weapons obviously and I don't even buy GE light bulbs. I |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 07:54 AM Response to Reply #1 |
62. Don't even care about their ratings anymore because it's all about the |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 12:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
81. As lies are exposed, more lies are stifling. They either uttlery bore or |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 02:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
86. i don't agree |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
89. Their owners ("$ix $aint Corporation$)' bottom lines don't come from |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 02:49 PM Response to Original message |
2. Corporate media cares only about selling ads |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 02:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. If they lose ENOUGH of their audience, the ad buyers will stop buying. |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
17. They sell ads based on ratings -- if they don't have viewers, they don't sell ads |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 07:57 AM Response to Reply #17 |
64. It used to work that way.....but now the "news" reporting pundits are underwritten |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 09:47 AM Response to Reply #64 |
71. Very interesting, in fact, compelling. |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 02:38 PM Response to Reply #64 |
90. These people are businesspeople first and foremost - it's ALL ratings |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #2 |
78. Propaganda ain't a business - they figured it out already. |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 02:47 PM Response to Reply #78 |
91. When all the people have stopped watching, they won't continue to throw money at it |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
3. Just think how cool it would be for WaPo to bag Broder/Cohen, and put in... |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
5. Tell it Dan tell it!! |
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snappyturtle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
6. I'm K&Ring this because it's a compliment, isn't it? They know |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
7. Imagine the day that CNN/MSNBC/FAUX... |
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ClintonTyree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 04:23 AM Response to Reply #7 |
57. Unfortunately that won't happen for quite some time. |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
10. Kicked and recommended |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
11. K&R |
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Downtown Hound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
13. I quit working for ABC because of the propaganda in the media |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 03:29 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. I couldn't agree more. |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 07:32 PM Response to Reply #16 |
31. "Ohio moments." Great term. Mine was when my local rag went on and on about how bad * was |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 11:19 AM Response to Reply #16 |
79. Yup. Mine was Florida 2000. It went downhill from there. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 02:03 PM Response to Reply #79 |
85. OH was worse for me because of FL. I KNEW they were going |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 11:59 AM Response to Reply #85 |
94. I had listened to Greg Palast - election morning listing the states to be stolen |
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Poiuyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
20. I heard Sam Donaldson say essentially the same thing |
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KurtNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
21. Which two sides is he talking about here: |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 07:34 PM Response to Reply #21 |
33. they don't have to cover both sides--they need to report the facts and let us |
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hvn_nbr_2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
24. Mainstream propaganda cartel losing viewers? |
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Downtown Hound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 05:22 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. When did they ever present both sides of WMD? |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 06:54 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. The sad part of all this is, Shuster doesn't really deserve all the flak. |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 07:27 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. What Froomkin said is absolutely true -- not a cop-out lie at all |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 11:51 PM Response to Reply #30 |
49. this is petty but one of the major reasons I abandonned main stream media for |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 02:59 PM Response to Reply #49 |
92. I get sick of that too. Local news (ours, anyway) is esp. bad at it |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
29. here is how that "both sides" thing affects the news: |
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DeeDeeNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 09:00 AM Response to Reply #29 |
67. That nails it perfectly! |
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indie_voter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
32. my favorite part: |
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cyberpj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 10:42 PM Response to Reply #32 |
44. Indeed indeed! nt |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 08:00 AM Response to Reply #32 |
65. That Sdhuster comment and Dan Froomkin's "back atcha" was great! |
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stubtoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 09:04 AM Response to Reply #32 |
68. Admin. claims "wanting, UNDESERVING OF ATTENTION"?!? |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
34. "Its obsession with providing "both sides" of a story..." Just present the FACTS |
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live love laugh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 09:54 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. That "both sides" line is B.S. They don't even do that. They won't even acknowledge |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 02:32 AM Response to Reply #38 |
54. What facts about Paris Hilton did we miss? |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 02:07 PM Response to Reply #54 |
88. I still don't know her breast size, nor |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
35. OBJECTIVITY, you dolts--not "both sides." Give us the FACTS and save yourselves some effort. |
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bleever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
36. David Shuster once again gains further respect from me. |
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Gabi Hayes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 12:13 AM Response to Reply #36 |
50. did you miss post number 32? Shuster is among the better performers in a VERY VERY bad lot. |
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bleever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 02:02 PM Response to Reply #50 |
84. I'll check that out. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
37. See ya muthfuckas! |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
42. F**C off MSM! |
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Mrspeeker (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
43. So everyone is actually tired of Bad News |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
47. When Donnahue left MSNBC he had the highest ratings. |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
51. beautiful. simply beautiful. the msm needs to listen to why they suck. |
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murielm99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 01:45 AM Response to Original message |
53. Winning? |
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Gabi Hayes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 03:59 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. exactly...it's just a GAME to them. when the lights/cameras go down, |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 03:56 AM Response to Original message |
55. Another big problem with the MSM... |
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ProgressiveAmPatriot (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 04:32 AM Response to Original message |
58. I ranted about the both sides thing today with Cheney's latest the law doesn't apply to me |
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riona (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 06:19 AM Response to Original message |
59. The MSM pre war reporting was the last straw for me |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 06:27 AM Response to Original message |
60. "both sides" ? LOL! |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 11:11 AM Response to Reply #60 |
77. yeah, Bush's and Cheney's silly. Where's your Colbertrivia? |
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Geek_Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 07:07 AM Response to Original message |
61. I can't understand why this is so hard for cable news to do |
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LeftHander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 07:57 AM Response to Original message |
63. When did the MSM stop reporting "facts" and reporting debate? |
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livvy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 08:29 AM Response to Original message |
66. If you haven't already read it... |
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happygoluckytoyou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
69. TONY SNOW HERE.... TO CLEAR THINGS UP |
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HowHasItComeToThis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
72. FROMKIN SAYS..... |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
76. "You don't balance the truth with a lie" - E.R. Murrow. From protests coverage |
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Martin Eden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
83. Reporting on "BOTH SIDES" of the story ... |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
87. Froomkin is a gem. A must-read |
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npincus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
93. kick |
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