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SHRED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:17 AM Original message |
Illegal hiring is the cause of... |
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BlackHawk706867 (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
1. Illegal hiring has much to do with it, but it is still due to the fact that |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:21 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Since you're apparently Canadian.... |
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BlackHawk706867 (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:25 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. I think we all need to get to work on the borders... You guy are the ones |
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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:31 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Beware, when the highway comes through 'you guys' |
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BlackHawk706867 (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:36 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Yep, we are well aware of could happen... The only thing right now |
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Progressive_In_NC (448 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #10 |
42. The chinese will be on your doorstep in about 30 years.... |
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eagler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 12:52 PM Response to Reply #10 |
55. I love Canada |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 11:52 AM Response to Reply #1 |
47. No. |
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maveric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 02:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
60. Bullshit! If the jobs werent offered, we wouldnt have the problem. |
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jtrockville (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 05:04 PM Response to Reply #60 |
75. Right on maveric - let's talk ILLEGAL EMPLOYERS |
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tbyg52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 12:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
94. It has even more to do with the fact that |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
3. There already is |
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SHRED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:27 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. There is? |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:38 AM Response to Reply #6 |
13. Here ya go... |
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SHRED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:47 AM Response to Reply #13 |
21. Thanks!! |
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Jim Warren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:43 AM Response to Reply #6 |
17. Easy search |
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shain from kane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:54 AM Response to Reply #17 |
27. We did I-9s after the last bill passed, even for people that we knew were U.S. citizens. |
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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:33 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Yes, and the enforcement has dropped of significantly |
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snappyturtle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 11:51 AM Response to Reply #3 |
46. Bingo! and K&R! nt |
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harlinchi (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
4. I agree with you. Verify employability. Punish violating employers. |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 12:05 PM Response to Reply #4 |
50. I agree with this, this is Thom Hartman's choice too... |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
9. I figure enforcing the laws against hiring Illegals would take care of 70-80% of the problem. |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 12:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
51. Or paying added INS "troops" to round them up and take them over the border too! |
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BOSSHOG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
11. Those who want to get rid of every single immigrant in the country |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:38 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. But those jobs are rarely in air conditioned offices. |
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BOSSHOG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:41 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. I'm amazed |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:47 AM Response to Reply #15 |
22. some numbers to think about... |
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BOSSHOG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:52 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. I'm onboard with you my Friend |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 11:15 AM Response to Reply #25 |
31. I'm not against offering green cards for seasonal agriculture actually. |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #22 |
59. That Steven Camarota has other reasons for being anti-immigrant. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #22 |
64. Yes. Exactly. |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:42 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. I do! |
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BOSSHOG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:44 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. If they are illegal crews their bids should not be accepted |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #18 |
29. You expect a home-owner to check the immigration status of a contractor's employees |
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Jim Warren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 11:28 AM Response to Reply #29 |
37. and painted cheaply |
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Zookeeper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 11:50 AM Response to Reply #37 |
44. "...temporary lapse of core values.." |
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BOSSHOG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 12:14 PM Response to Reply #29 |
52. My |
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BlackHawk706867 (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:46 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Yep I agree with you and fail to understand this logic, if the illegals |
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KaptBunnyPants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 05:07 PM Response to Reply #11 |
76. Manual labor is a respectable occupation. |
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Bitwit1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
12. I saw an article |
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flaminbats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
20. Republicans think the minimum wage causes this! |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
23. You are absolutly right |
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Jim Warren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 11:13 AM Response to Reply #23 |
30. The Grand Island plant |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
24. This is what I remind people here of when they complain about the "Mexicans"... |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
26. questions: |
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SHRED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. legal citizens |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 11:22 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. wages will not go up. |
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SHRED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 11:25 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. wages are based on labor supply |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 11:27 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. were that it was so simple. there are many factors that are considered in a |
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SHRED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 11:30 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. We, as a country,... |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 11:36 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. I agree. What I do not agree with is the"immediacy "of the problem. |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 11:23 AM Response to Reply #26 |
33. At what pay rate? |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #33 |
43. It is no myth. |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 11:55 AM Response to Reply #43 |
48. It won't be a myth when easy credit dries up for certain people, etc. |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 02:34 PM Response to Reply #48 |
63. It is not a myth. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 03:18 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. Repetition does not mitigate for inaccuracy. |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 06:51 PM Response to Reply #69 |
81. To which I reply bullshit. Tell me who will fill those jobs. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 09:28 PM Response to Reply #81 |
92. Did you notice I'm posting during the day? |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 08:10 PM Response to Reply #63 |
85. I've smutted corn, baled hay, picked strawberries, |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 12:33 PM Response to Reply #43 |
54. I never said they could be fully staffed by American labor |
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terryg11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 04:17 PM Response to Reply #33 |
72. thank you!! |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 08:12 PM Response to Reply #72 |
86. your strawberries would only cost $.10 more per pint... |
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Bentcorner (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 11:34 AM Response to Reply #26 |
39. Americans can do all of these jobs. |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 11:50 AM Response to Reply #39 |
45. I never said Americans couldn't do these jobs. |
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Jim Warren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 12:00 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. Which industries Joe? |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 03:01 PM Response to Reply #49 |
66. see post 26 |
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Zookeeper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 12:15 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. Never have? |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 03:02 PM Response to Reply #53 |
67. pay attention. re-read my post. |
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Zookeeper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 05:39 PM Response to Reply #67 |
80. Pay attention? Excuse me? |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 08:30 PM Response to Reply #45 |
90. Never have? Incorrect. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 03:03 PM Response to Reply #26 |
68. This is a red herring. |
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shain from kane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
34. You send home 50 per day. The next day you send home another 50. And so on and on. |
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wildhorses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
41. you have it backwards and are trying to solve it backwards -- |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 01:21 PM Response to Reply #41 |
56. no, actually. |
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wildhorses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 01:36 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. thing is they are coming here and knocking on the |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 02:29 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. The thing is we only have control over those who fall under American rule |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 02:32 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. because the jobs are available |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 03:24 PM Response to Reply #62 |
70. Deleted message |
SHRED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 04:39 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Your brother... |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 06:57 PM Response to Reply #74 |
82. I have to really wonder about your agenda, shred. |
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SHRED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 07:51 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. agenda? |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 08:01 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. ! ... ? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 04:18 PM Response to Reply #56 |
73. People coming north is a direct result of US policy in Latin America. |
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petunia.here (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
58. This would be a great if in addition |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 08:23 PM Response to Reply #58 |
87. You should speak up more often |
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judaspriestess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
65. I just had a lengthy conversation with a guy from England |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
71. Glad you brought it up........ |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
77. That's been the law since 1986 |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 08:26 PM Response to Reply #77 |
89. a quick visit to a gov. website, plug in the ss# and see if it's valid... |
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LuckyLib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
78. Illegal hiring is cause of . . . a very comfortable wealthy ruling class in Mexico |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
79. In portajons at work |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 08:35 PM Response to Reply #79 |
91. You rebel! |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
88. Remove the incentive and the immigration will stop - plain and simple. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
93. You've reconfirmed my view that the majority of Americans' only |
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