Stephanie Miller is losing me with the Scooter Libby song parody.

[11 Bravo]

I love Momma, but "Scooter Libby, Libby, Libby's going to jail, jail, jail ... He will take it, take it, take it in the tail, tail, tail" doesn't strike me as funny. I guess as jaded as I am, rape, gay or straight, still doesn't tickle my funny bone.

[frogcycle]

1. agreed

i was actually quite shocked to hear it

not funny

[Sanity Claws]

2. Let her know

Send her email; I'm sure she'd prefer to hear that lose you or other listeners.

[Malikshah]

3. In comparison to those who were killed due in part to his actions, I think

folks should get over themselves.

It's called prioritizing.

[11 Bravo]

7. So forcible sodomy should be tacked on to prison sentences?

I hope you never have your elbow forced up between your shoulder blades while being bent over a prison cot, but if you should be so fortunate, please get back to me about "prioritizing".

[Malikshah]

31. Focus on the prison system, not Stephanie Miller

Again--it's about prioritizing.

And, in return, I hope you never get shot in the head, poisoned, garotted, or killed in any vile way that agents can be killed once their cover is blown.

[PSPS]

4. I agree

That is very low-brow humor to be sure. The odd thing is that she knows it too, yet continues to play it.

However, she's not alone. Even on DU, virtually every post dealing with someone deemed "evil" going to prison includes at least one response with the perfunctory reference to them being sexually abused while in jail.

We're still firmly entrenched in the "lad culture" where it's considered hip to behave like an immature adolescent.

[MADem]

10. I don't think "hipness" or the "lad culture" has so much to do with it

Maybe a bit, but the real drivers are fear and retribution.

It's all wrapped up with revenge, and power.

When people who have power over others, and cause them pain, are brought low and punished, and forced to go to jail, there's that revenge aspect that kicks in for some people. The old "Don't drop the soap" jokes are almost obligato, thanks to films and series like OZ--and they're delivered with a "He got what he deserved" sense.

People who are angry and seek revenge like to imagine the person in a powerless situation where they are being abused and humiliated--the old "taste of your own medicine" sort of thing.

It's really rather tribal, or Biblical, eye for an eye, and all that.

People joke about it because they're afraid of it, really. Or they know that others are afraid of it. It's a rather dark form of humor. And while the Libbys of this world are pretty safe in the minimum security Club Feds, I guess that's not always true in some of these rougher prisons in the general population--if there's any truth to the popular culture tales, anyway. And that's what feeds the beast, those tales.

[Ian David]

34. Maybe Libby will commit a crime while in Federal Prison that gets him sent to a State Prison. n/t

[originalpckelly]

14. "lad culture"

:rofl:

I don't think I've ever heard that phrase before.

[MADem]

40. It's one of those Brit terms that endears...one of my favorites from over that way is

"lager lout!!!" Talk about a concise description....

I've lived/worked over there so I didn't even think about it when I read it, but yeah, it isn't something you hear every day in the US of A....

It's in the popular vernacular now, though, thanks to Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lad_culture

[LeftishBrit]

47. I have, often

Maybe it's a commoner phrase in the UK.

There are even female 'lads' known as 'ladettes'!

[Ian David]

5. Humorless stick-up-the-butt Liberals strike again!

Here's a clip of my five year-old daughter singing The Scooter Libby Song...

... during the "It's A Small World" ride at Disney World.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v653/ian02302/?action=view¤t=0615071106.flv
(I love me some ironic juxtaposition!)


And no, she doesn't know what the song's actually about. But she does kind of understand who "Scoober Libby" is and what he did.

Considering that Scooter Libby's policy has led not just to mass murder, but to the rape and sodomizing of innocent men, women and children held in US custody... I see absolutely NOTHING wrong with celebrating Scooter's impending deflowering.

[Malikshah]

32. True, a stick-ectomy is very much in order. They'll have to get in line

behind Nurses, Lawyers, and other sundry folks who need to get over themselves.

[Botany]

6. ..... but be careful in the shower shower shower.

Steph & the Mooks are wickedly talented and are big fans of D.U. too.

BTW Scooter Libby helped sell us a war based on lies which has killed hundreds
of thousands along with selling out the cover of C.I.A. agent who was keeping us safe
from real WMDs and without a doubt many of her former secret contacts are dead
when their covers were blown by this group of thugs.

Libby, Rove, & Cheney are guilty of treason and I have no sympathy for them.
My best friend's son is a gunner on a humvee in Iraq right now .... Scooter needs
horse whipped and sent to jail.

Humorless stick up the butt liberals* .... sittting around a womyn's drumming circle
complaining about the little things and missing the big picture .... :puke:




* Copyright .... The Stephanie Miller News Show.

Stephanie :loveya: Miller .... she will be mine! :rofl:

[noamnety]

19. Rape jokes are only "little things"

To those who haven't been raped, or haven't had people close to them raped. :(

This kind of male supremacy bullshit that enforces the idea that the penis is meant to be a violent tool to attack people with reinforces an entire culture of rape. Quit fucking contributing to it.

[Botany]

26. A friend of mine was attacked and shot while fighting off her ..

.... rapist. She was on life support in a coma for 6 months .... i visited her
every day thank you very much.

And spare me the 1970's all men are rapists either by allowing "it" or
"doing it" themselves women's lib stuff. "The people will never be free until society
throws off it's patriarchal shackles." Please.



BTW Libby wrote a book in which the main character, a young girl, is raped
by a trained bear to make her be ready to work as a prostitute.

[noamnety]

33. Do you joke about rape in front of that friend? (nt)

(nt because I don't remember saying "all men are rapists" so I'm gonna assume you were responding to someone else on that part.)

[LSK]

8. well she does say if she doesnt offend somebody, shes not doing her job

[noamnety]

49. Did she say

if I'm not being sexist, racist, and homophobic I'm not doing my job?

I'd rather she caused offense by telling the truth to people that don't want to hear it. THAT's her job. Not randomly being offensive.

[mmonk]

9. Come on,

lighten up.


momma's not saying rape is funny.

[originalpckelly]

13. I know, Scooter would have to be a human or animal to be raped.

[mmonk]

16. yeah, I don't know how it works with inhuman life forms.

[Botany]

18. Well Scooter did write about the girl being trained as a ..

.... prostitute who was keptin pen w/ a bear to be raped so she would
be gentle to the customers.

TRUE STORY

[wryter2000]

17. How come they tease her for being flat-chested?

Those look like nice ones to me. Better than mine by a long shot.

[PSPS]

21. Why would anyone be teased for being flat chested?

Personally, I prefer small. Like they say, anything more than a mouthful...

[wryter2000]

22. LOL

My husband felt much the same way. :)

[mmonk]

30. Her lovely lady lumps seem ok to me as well

[wryter2000]

53. And, it's not even the magical, purple sweater n/t

n/t

[mmonk]

54. Yep.

She seems now to rotate between green and the purple sweater. When I met her, she was in green as you can see.

[Ian David]

35. I don't believe you. Please post photographic evidence. n/t

[wryter2000]

52. You wanna see mine?

:rofl: No, you don't. :rofl:

[Ian David]

58. I want to see everybody's. It's called The Curse of The Y Chromosome. n/t

[Cleita]

67. There is a picture of her standing next to Randi Rhodes on

her website where Randi is sporting Jayne Mansfield size cleavage. That's where it comes from, I believe. Next to Randi she looks like Olive Oyl. LOL

[originalpckelly]

11. Just a reminder that a five foot nothing man named Scooter who talks in a munchkin voice...

is no going to last long in prison before someone, well, we won't go there.

[Kingshakabobo]

50. He DOES have a munchkin voice!

His voice doesn't match his face. It sounds like cape cod munchkin......when I first heard it I thought "what a punk."..........speaking of punk......never mind.

[wakeme2008]

12. Sorry 11B but Scooter was part of Dick's it OK to fuckem in the ass because

They are only Iragis or Guantanamo prisoners group. :shrug:

[MiniMe]

15. I object just because I can't get that damn song out of my head

[Ian David]

36. Every time I do laundry, I can't get that "Sock" song out of my head. n/t

[noamnety]

20. Thank you for this post.

It's part of a pattern of lefty media people engaging in sexist bullshit. Olbermann, Stewart, Ed Schultz, her.

I used to love olbermann, but I left the KOEB when I realized how much misogynistic crap he does on almost a daily basis, and I no longer recommend him to others; I barely watch him anymore. Ed Schultz, I'm done with. I haven't heard Stephanie much, but this doesn't exactly endear her to me.

Racist jokes are racist.
Sexist jokes are sexist.
Homophobic jokes are homophobic.

I don't know why people get all pissed off when you state the obvious - that they are being racist/sexist/homophobic.

If all that was okay with me, I'd be a republican.

[PSPS]

23. I can't argue with anything you said!

[PSPS]

24. I will say that the Bradley Schlozman skit they did today really cracked me up.

"The Schloz"

"Bradleeeeyyyy Schlozzzmaaaaannnn"

[Botany]

27. Hey Lady, it is the Schlozman!

[CTyankee]

75. Please, who is the Bernie guy?

I've been away from my Stephanie for several months and I want to catch up!

[Jed Dilligan]

25. I sometimes think--this is sick--

I sometimes think judges should have to actually say it when they are sentencing someone to sodomy. Because they bloody well know it, don't they?

If they actually handed down sentences of rape and sex slavery, as it is de facto, we couldn't very well go muddling in other countries on the grounds of "human rights."

You know?

[Mister Ed]

28. Yeah, I wince involuntarily every time I hear it.

The other people stuck in my rush-hour traffic jam must wonder why I'm sitting there in my car, wincing over and over again.

I love Steph and the boys, and I'm about as un-PC as I can be. But the mental picture painted by that song just really seems to hit my "not-funny" bone. Hard.

I'm not interested in calling them up and telling them how to script their show. And I sure as hell ain't gonna touch that dial. But, for me, they really miss the mark with that little jingle.

[UTUSN]

29. Ever unpopular ME, but why do you want to be LOST?!!1 n/t

[genie_weenie]

37. The Stephanie Miller show in no way endorses prision rape.

Steph's Disclaimer.

[Ian David]

39. Maybe they could change the song to "He WON'T take it in the tail."

(Changes are marked in bold)

Scooter Libby Libby Libby's going to jail jail jail!
He won't take it take it take it in the tail tail tail!
Libby Libby Libby had some power power power...
He will hold on to the soap in the shower shower shower!

Then, they could use what I call "The Dead Puppies AREN'T Much Fun Defense."

[Liberal Veteran]

56. Hums the tune of "Girl from Ipanema" in the background.

Just for the full effect.

[OzarkDem]

61. Then they should stop joking about it

Trying to do a liberal copycat of Rush Limbaugh, etc. is demeaning to liberals and Dems.

Its possible to be funny without being in the gutter, hope she learns that or she'll end up losing her show.

BTW, I don't listen either. I tried once and it was sophomoric, cringe-inducing.

[Orsino]

69. Opposite Day! n/t

[Ian David]

38. Just think about the Beaver Liquors jingle instead.

http://www.avonpage.com/BeaverLiquors/Lips.html

I don't think my wife would let me wear the T-Shirts.

She won't even let me put my "I Don't Brake for Republicans" bumper sticker (somewhere) on my car.

[Beelzebud]

41. Oh no! Someone is offended! Please gag Stephanie Miller ASAP!!!!

She should never utter anything that someone might deem offensive!
:sarcasm:

If you are never offended, you aren't living in a free society.

[Bluebear]

57. The OP did not suggest "gagging" her, did they?

[Ian David]

60. I think she'd look cute wearing a gag, but then how would she drink her box of wine? n/t

[Beelzebud]

68. Nope, they just wanted to whine about something she said.

But I understand the outrage police must get offended, or at least pretend to be offended, at every little thing that is uttered in jest.

[LeftishBrit]

70. If you can't say when you're offended by a joke, then you're ALSO not living in a free society

No one's proposing banning anyone, but freedom of speech goes both ways, and people should have a right to make jokes that others might find offensive; and *also* have the right to say when they find a joke offensive or just plain not funny.

I haven't seen the sketch, so can't comment on it; but occasionally have been in situations where men were joking about women being raped, and blaming the women present for being humourless if they didn't find the jokes funny. I was in a sense more offended by our being dismissed as humourless for not finding the jokes funny, as though we had no right to our feelings, than by the jokes themselves.

Freedom of speech for all: the jokers and the offended!

[Beelzebud]

71. And if you can't tell someone they're living in a free society, you're not living in a free society!

:D

[LeftishBrit]

72. And if you can't tell them right back that YOU are also living in a free society...

then you're not living in a free society!

[Beelzebud]

73. LOL :)

[KG]

42. bwhahahaha!!!

:rofl:


heh. heh.

heh.

sorry, my schadenfreude level goes off the charts when one of the ruling class theives and liars finally get their come-uppance...

heh.


ok, back to being my tolerant leftist self, searching for truth and beauty in a mean spirited world.

heh.

[coco77]

43. I have tried to listen but ..

I can't listen to long, sounds too much like I am listening to a cartoon or some comic book character. She uses the sound effects too much and its irritating. Before they put Jerry Springer on I was liking what I heard but when she was on, as far as I am concerned they should bring back Jerry or she should change the format of her show.

[MzNov]

44. Then Stephanie Miller is NOT the show for you. n/t

[PassingFair]

45. Not the show for me, either.

Gawd knows, I have TRIED.
I would rather WORK than listen to
her show. She is NOT funny. Her
shtick is NOT funny. Her songs
are NOT funny.

Sophomoric and dumb.

I MISS AL FRANKEN.

I listen to MUSIC or work until
Thom Hartman comes on.

[Ian David]

64. I have some MP3s of Rob Reiner and Mel Brooks as The 3000 Year Old Man you might find amusing. n/t

[undeterred]

46. Yeah, people either love it or they don't care for it.

I don't care for it. I know her politics are in the right place, and I know I am lucky to have Air America, but unless she is doing an interview I will change the station to just about ANYTHING else. Its just too much poo poo silly for me.

[dogday]

48. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time

It is hard time and that has it's own consequences that even go beyond what the guards see or do to deter rape, or any other crime being committed in prison...

How many of them turn their heads and don't give a flying f**k what is done as long as they don't kill or seriously injure the prisoner....

When I used to volunteer my time at the county jail here, one of the biggest complaints by the ladies is that the guards don't care. They treat them like animals and sub-humans... They think they all are liars, thieves, drug addicts and treat them as such....


It's a shame, but it is a fact, don't do the crime if you can't do the time.....

[Ian David]

62. Republicans are supposed to be "tough on crime." Maybe they'll do something about prison rape...

as more and more of them end up wearing the orange jumpsuits.

[Nimrod2005]

51. Maybe he likes it in the tail, why do you assume rape? I didn't....nt

[Liberal Veteran]

55. It's a joke. You may believe it is in poor taste....

...but it was a funny jingle (for those of us who can tell the difference between humor and policy statements, at least).

[Ian David]

59. You mean there is a kind of humor where people say things they don't actually believe?

I'm shocked!

You may have taken a step toward developing a stickupthebuttectomy procedure!

[OzarkDem]

63. No one is objecting to humor

but can't liberals find a way to be funny without copying right wingers?

How about if she tries to be funny without going into the gutter?

[Liberal Veteran]

66. So the issue is that the humor is not highbrow enough?

Believe it not, most democrats are just plain folks that can handle jokes and even potty humor.

Other things we can get offended about from Steph not taking the high road:

1) Doing the Darth Cheney thing during right wing world. Evil is not funny, so we shouldn't make light of it through jokes and satire.

2) The Village People theme and lispy voice of Crack White House Reporter Jeff Gannon. It encourages stereotypes.

3) The Xenophobic impressions of Jim Ward when he does over the top imitations of Brits, Germans, Irish people, or Kim Jong-iL.

4) All those mini-cover bands that she did. Is she making fun of people with a serious disease?

[yurbud]

65. I might agree if this wasn't the guy who wrote about a little girl being raped by a bear

[Zomby Woof]

74. I love her MORE precisely because of it

And anytime she pisses off puritannical, humorless, sanctimonious people.