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Swede (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 06:17 PM Original message |
There is no way to round up and deport 12 million people. |
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soothsayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
1. The Nazis were able to round up 6 million or more. And that was way back then. |
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maveric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 06:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Thats what scares me. |
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soothsayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 06:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. All those FEMA camps around the country that halliburton has been building? |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 06:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Just 6 million were Jews. |
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soothsayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 06:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Ah, you're right, had forgotten how many Romanians, gypsies, homosexuals, handicapped, elderly... |
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Rick Myers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 06:36 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. The Bush-Prescotts were early supporters of the Eugenics program |
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DBoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 06:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Someone actually made this very argument |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 03:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
79. In Denmark, the populace made it very difficult. |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
4. NO, but if you begin punishing |
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Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:32 PM Response to Reply #4 |
32. I'm curious how that would work |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 07:29 AM Response to Reply #32 |
38. If they were all fired tomorrow, there would be at least two options. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 11:38 AM Response to Reply #32 |
49. And the companies would suffer, and shrink, and have to lay off |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #32 |
66. Look, I'm as liberal (progressive) as they come...... |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 08:14 PM Response to Reply #32 |
69. A dollar fine. Doubled for each additional illegal immigrant. |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:19 AM Response to Reply #32 |
76. What makes you think they have little or no money? n/t |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 11:33 AM Response to Reply #4 |
47. The 1986 law didn't work - just attracted even more illegals |
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Robson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
7. There is no need to "round" anybody up. |
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KAT119 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 12:45 AM Response to Reply #7 |
36. Require 9 years military service w/ citizenship after honorable |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
8. Newt Gingrich came to Wisconsin and said we could use Fed Ex and UPS |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 06:44 PM Response to Reply #8 |
24. brilliant! Just issue a Call Tag, slap it on their forehead, and off they go! |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:14 PM Response to Reply #8 |
63. Newt proposed the same idea when I saw him speak |
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VP505 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
9. And just |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:16 PM Response to Reply #9 |
64. The alternative is to just let them keep coming here illegally and ignore the problem |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 05:14 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. That does seem to be the choice presented here quite often. |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
11. Sure we can. We won't, though. |
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Swede (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 06:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Then what do you do with 12 million unemployed people? |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 06:32 PM Original message |
Give them citizenship and clamp the borders, seaports, and airports down. |
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Swede (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
16. Good answer. |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 06:37 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. So they said in 1986 when it was first enacted. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 06:34 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. If we rounded them up then we too would have to liquidate them. |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 06:42 PM Response to Reply #11 |
23. SB 1348 Immigration Reform: construct "at least 20 detention facilities in the United States..." |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
13. Nobody is going to do that. It's just a red herring thrown out |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
14. True. And rounding up 12-20 million people that OUR POLICY |
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murloc (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 06:39 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. How did our policy |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 06:47 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. No. The US has a long history of interfering in Latin America |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 08:58 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Yes. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:47 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Ah, no. Just as Mexico didn't put out death squads in Central America |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 08:05 AM Response to Reply #33 |
39. That doesn't give Latin Americans a right to legal status in the US |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 08:42 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Haven't seen that argument here yet. |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 10:13 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. I agree diversity strengthens us |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 10:26 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. No, Lasher. The point is, you can deport away and imprison |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 11:23 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Sure, that must be what you meant. I thought you favored a more lenient US immigration policy |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 11:36 AM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Did you ever check out that thread we're developing in the Latino forum? |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #48 |
52. OK, I'll check in on it. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 01:18 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. It's by no means complete because of our own time constraints |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 09:07 PM Response to Reply #58 |
70. OK I checked in. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 09:26 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. Lol! Maybe because I'm from the Dewey Decimal school of research.. |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 10:36 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. You know, the Monroe Doctrine had its good points. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 10:48 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. When corporations were given the rights of a person |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 11:57 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. No corporation has a soul |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:34 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. I'm enjoying that, too. The Thuggery is now between |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 03:17 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. We've had our fights but I might even get to like you. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 03:25 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. I've been really cranky, Lasher and apologize. |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 11:25 AM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Straw man charge stands. |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 11:44 AM Response to Reply #45 |
51. Charge away, I've made my point. |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 11:50 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. I don't believe it. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 10:21 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. That isn't the argument I'm making. n/t |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #14 |
54. Does the fabulously wealthy oligarchy that owns Mexico |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 01:59 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. They work together. One couldn't pull it off without the other. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:03 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Very true. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. That's all I've been trying to say and maybe, I've been saying it badly. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 08:11 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Believe me, I have sympathy here, |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 09:24 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. When my first son was a baby and my husband and I both worked |
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murloc (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
18. Do things right and its unnecessary |
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Wiley50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
19. There's no way to imprison 50 million potsmokers either |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 02:12 PM Response to Reply #19 |
60. That comparison came up for me, too. |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
21. DIA SPYING: NGIA collecting data, 133 U.S. cities, ID everyone, nationality, political affiliations |
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tanyev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
26. This gang couldn't even get thousands out of NOLA that desperately wanted to leave. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 11:37 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. "This posse couldn't find itself -- if it wanted to." |
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tanyev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 07:09 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. LOL! I love that movie! |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
27. Hell, they can't even get 160,000 troops out of Iraq. And, that's only 344 miles. |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
29. Ridiculous... |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 12:54 PM Response to Reply #29 |
56. Simple solutions for complex phenomena... |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 12:54 PM Response to Reply #29 |
57. Simple solutions for complex phenomena... |
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Jim Warren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 04:09 PM Response to Reply #29 |
62. No |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
30. Let the Asgards beam them to another galaxy - Colonel Jack O'Neill is a friend of them |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
31. k&r |
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DaveJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
34. Why can't we all have a little respect for our neighbors? |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
46. Agreed, and there is also no way to "seal" a border and coastline |
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Rosemary2205 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
50. BWWWAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
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thegreatcause2 (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-23-07 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
55. JUDICIAL SOVEREIGNTY |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
81. "They're criminals!" |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
82. what if you deputize legions of good god-fearing gun-totin' patriots to do the job voluntarily...? |
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