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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 09:48 AM Original message |
Murder: The Leading Cause of Death for Pregnant Women |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
1. The National Domestic Violence Hotline: 1-800-799-SAFE (7233) |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
2. Termination of parental rights does not eliminate support obligation. |
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Sonicmedusa (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 10:22 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Thanks |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 10:34 AM Response to Reply #2 |
11. Good luck getting any financial support! |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 10:47 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Yeah, I kinda know that, being both the kid whose parent couldn't be bothered to pay up |
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FreakinDJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
3. Ad space for NOW |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
4. "... nationwide, the maternal mortality rate was just 9.9 percent..." ??? |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 10:16 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. That's an interesting question, Bloo. I don't know what that figure refers to either. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 10:21 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. no national system exists for tracking maternal homicides |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 10:24 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Here are the statistics on maternal mortality from the CDC, they show a much lower rate: |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 10:26 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Thanks - I'll look at it in a sec - gotta go thru my feeds first. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 10:44 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. 8.2 deaths/100,000 live births. Orders of magnitude off of 10%. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:00 AM Response to Reply #14 |
20. overall stat on TOTAL # of deaths is incorrect, BUT- the % of them being murders is not in dispute |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:02 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. My apologies for my unseemly interest in the truth. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:17 AM Response to Reply #21 |
27. what's your opinion on the point of the OP- somewhere between 20-33% of maternal deaths |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:22 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Deleted message |
bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:34 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. i actually clarified and restated the relevant statistics in the OP, so WHY DOES THAT IRK YOU SO? |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:36 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Shhh.... Brunch is over. Run along now, and play with your little red bouncy ball. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:41 AM Response to Reply #34 |
41. oh wow PATRIARCHAL CONDESENDING BULLYING BULLSHIT instead of actual content |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:21 PM Response to Reply #30 |
82. That's a little over the top, isn't it? |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:34 PM Response to Reply #82 |
94. Nope. And every last one of your implicit statements is false. Sometimes a ? is just a ?. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:02 PM Response to Reply #94 |
120. i asked a simple question and was treated to a violent outburst- some people lack the ability |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #120 |
140. Deleted message |
bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:24 PM Response to Reply #140 |
147. you called it "Fictional Outrage" , is that not minimizing the issue? you only poked a hole |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:44 AM Response to Reply #27 |
46. I think the point is |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:47 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. "Homicide had emerged as a significant cause of maternal death." |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. But that doesn't remotely answer the question |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:59 AM Response to Reply #50 |
60. If you read the posted link, they have only begun to note pregnancy on death certificates |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:06 PM Response to Reply #60 |
72. Here's what troubles me |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:17 PM Response to Reply #72 |
79. When you look at the NIH article alongside the posted, I think it becomes clear |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:26 PM Response to Reply #79 |
87. Thanks |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:38 PM Response to Reply #87 |
97. you're welcome. honest questions are a good thing. there was- quite obviously a big |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 03:21 PM Response to Reply #72 |
232. probably both |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 03:28 PM Response to Reply #232 |
233. That's what I would have thought, but... |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:14 PM Response to Reply #49 |
76. that wasn't the question asked you |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:52 AM Response to Reply #46 |
52. that stats are higher for pregnant women. it's just not that 10% of pregnant women die |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:55 AM Response to Reply #52 |
54. It just seems odd to me the stats that the article doesn't include |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:58 AM Response to Reply #54 |
58. You missed that part that said they don't keep good records?? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:59 AM Response to Reply #58 |
63. Must have |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:03 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. Prevalence of Domestic Violence |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:35 PM Response to Reply #52 |
96. If that's a typo, then this article couldn't have been well vetted. And, strawman much? |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #96 |
105. I guess you missed the NIH article that says how severley uncounted pregnant women's |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 10:45 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. the document has nothing to do with the issue- what % of death are murders |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 10:56 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Thank You! |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:22 PM Response to Reply #15 |
145. And here's a bit more info re homocide vs. accidental death |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:42 AM Response to Reply #4 |
43. it's a bad number |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:55 AM Response to Reply #43 |
55. Yup, that's what I've gathered. Thanks! |
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kiteinthewind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 10:41 PM Response to Reply #4 |
298. I believe it is a rate, not percentage. 9.9 of 1,000 or 100,000. |
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smiley_glad_hands (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
10. Tells you alot about our society doesn't it. |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 10:43 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. don't say "we". it is the men who are not civilized |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:17 AM Response to Reply #13 |
26. Nice "broad" brush you have there. |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #26 |
90. Actually |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:56 PM Response to Reply #90 |
114. You read between the lines... |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:14 PM Response to Reply #26 |
137. Ha! Not in this household. |
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Annces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:35 PM Response to Reply #137 |
158. hehe Bravo n/t |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:01 PM Response to Reply #137 |
177. Prove the rule by citing the exceptions...BRILLIANT!!! |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:22 PM Response to Reply #177 |
255. Why do you think men have patented more inventions than women in history? |
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Zookeeper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 10:53 AM Response to Reply #26 |
303. I do all of the handyperson chores in my household.... |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #13 |
161. Yeah...If I used the "ignore" function, you'd be on my list. NT. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:05 PM Response to Reply #13 |
299. wow..just wow |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
12. there IS something wrong with men |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. There is definitely something going on, but I think you're going about it |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:44 PM Response to Reply #18 |
101. Who cares if homocide of pregnant women has ESCALATED or not |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:09 PM Response to Reply #101 |
129. If your way could work, we would have done it already. You, as usual, |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:03 AM Response to Reply #12 |
23. There's something wrong with some of them, always has been |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:10 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. "Those men are out there and they all have a major screw loose." |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #23 |
173. I think worst of all, SHE is going to be attached the child instead of |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 03:08 PM Response to Reply #23 |
226. Chilling... |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #12 |
24. My white male privilege card will probably be revoked for revealing this |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:21 AM Response to Reply #24 |
28. wow, way to lash out at women! looks like someone hit a nerve. |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:42 AM Response to Reply #28 |
42. Damn right you hit a nerve |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:59 AM Response to Reply #42 |
62. And they are conviently forgeting all the woman that kill their newborns |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:04 PM Response to Reply #62 |
69. Off topic. This is about murdered pregnant women. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #69 |
136. The man-bashing was off topic, too. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:15 PM Response to Reply #136 |
138. I didn't 'man-bash' anyone. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:27 PM Response to Reply #138 |
151. I was not accusing you. I was explaining the reason for my remark. |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #62 |
109. You think the subject of mentally ill women justifies women's deaths |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:25 PM Response to Reply #109 |
148. Ah, I see... |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #148 |
167. Ah, so it's personal with you. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 03:15 PM Response to Reply #167 |
229. I've had a personal experience that woman can be just as mean and heartless as men |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 03:53 PM Response to Reply #229 |
240. But men killing men isn't a hate crime |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:14 PM Response to Reply #240 |
252. It can be. |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #109 |
156. So a woman who kills is mentally ill |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:51 PM Response to Reply #156 |
168. Well, it's not what I'm saying, and no know that. |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:04 PM Response to Reply #42 |
70. it works like this - women the world over are oppressed by men |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:21 PM Response to Reply #70 |
81. So it's "war"? And here I was foolishly hoping for a diplomatic solution. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:05 PM Response to Reply #81 |
125. Deleted message |
TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:01 PM Response to Reply #12 |
64. Actually, there's something wrong with you, personally. |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:07 PM Response to Reply #64 |
73. I don't hate all men - open your mind |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:35 PM Response to Reply #73 |
157. Well, donsu, your problem is |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:18 PM Response to Reply #64 |
142. a fraction of a percent? Oh, what a pretty fiction. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:03 PM Response to Reply #12 |
121. No. You're Not More Than Us. Not Whatsoever. |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:42 PM Response to Reply #12 |
163. Well, this man can, at least, spell. |
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Melissa G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
17. A truly sad K&R...n/t |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
22. Sad indictment of our society. |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
29. Maybe it just has something to do with the animal we are. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:24 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Isn't there a difference between animals and humans?? |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:37 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. No, not really. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:41 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Yes, there is a difference! To say there isn't; is BS! |
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Annces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:37 AM Response to Reply #29 |
36. That makes no sense |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:40 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Not all male animals kill offspring. |
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Annces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:47 AM Response to Reply #38 |
48. Yes, I know that |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:03 PM Response to Reply #29 |
68. Male lions will kills cubs |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
33. k&r |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
37. I worked in a shelter for a while ------horrifying what people do to people-mainly |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
40. I'm missing something in these numbers |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:44 AM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Murder: The Leading Cause of Death for Pregnant Women |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:45 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. No, not remotely |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:50 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Link? Here, I'll help. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:52 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. What do you mean "link"? I'm not making a claim, I'm asking a question |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:57 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Yes, you made a claim. --> "No, not remotely" |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:58 AM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Sorry, I meant it didn't remotely answer my question |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:57 AM Response to Reply #51 |
57. Still doesn't answer my question |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:59 AM Response to Reply #57 |
61. Huh?? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:01 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. Does not address my question |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:17 PM Response to Reply #65 |
78. -----------> |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:22 PM Response to Reply #78 |
83. Maybe I haven't made the question I'm asking clear |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. GENDER RELATIONSHIP OF KILLERS AND VICTIMS |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. Because to my knowledge they don't track the pregnancy status of the victim |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:33 PM Response to Reply #88 |
92. It was an AP article. |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #40 |
66. More |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #66 |
74. Thanks |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:33 PM Response to Reply #74 |
91. No |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #91 |
102. Here |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:52 PM Response to Reply #102 |
112. What is your point now? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:04 PM Response to Reply #112 |
122. Your claim is not justified |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #122 |
135. Maternal Mortality Rates, by Race of Mother: 2000 |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:17 PM Response to Reply #122 |
141. This is nuts |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:23 PM Response to Reply #141 |
146. Me too! Great post....again!!!!! |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:25 PM Response to Reply #141 |
149. Gah! |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #149 |
152. How many links do you need???? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:29 PM Response to Reply #152 |
153. Just one that compares the absolute murder rates among pregnant and non-pregnant women |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:32 PM Response to Reply #153 |
155. I've provided you with numerous links. Read them! |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:20 PM Response to Reply #155 |
185. No, you provided me with links showing murder is the leading cause of death for pregnant women |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:24 PM Response to Reply #185 |
190. No, read thru all the comments. Many have posted many links. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:29 PM Response to Reply #190 |
194. *I* was the one quoting from the first few links of those |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:32 PM Response to Reply #194 |
199. Where in my OP does it say *increase* in homicide of pregnant women? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:33 PM Response to Reply #199 |
200. But if the risk of homicide isn't actually greater for a pregnant woman |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:35 PM Response to Reply #200 |
201. It does to pregnant women and women in general. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:47 PM Response to Reply #201 |
210. I'm not sure... men are still at a much higher risk of being murdered than women |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:52 PM Response to Reply #210 |
214. though it still could if we can find homicides per 100,000 pregnant women and compare |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #214 |
216. No, you didn't, and the data don't exist as far as I can find |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:59 PM Response to Reply #216 |
219. Scientific Evidence on Violence and Reproductive Health |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 03:06 PM Response to Reply #219 |
225. 1.7 per 100,000 in pregnant women vs. 1.9 per 100,000 women in general |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 03:02 PM Response to Reply #216 |
220. self delete |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 03:05 PM Response to Reply #216 |
224. Scientific Evidence on Violence and Reproductive Health |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:46 PM Response to Reply #153 |
164. I've posted many medical studies and criminal statistics and study links. |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:44 PM Response to Reply #40 |
100. I think murder is a leading cause of death of people in that age range. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:01 PM Response to Reply #100 |
117. That would be a good study to do |
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alphafemale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:12 PM Response to Reply #117 |
133. I also think that homicide is now a leading cause of death for young people... |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #117 |
172. I understand the question you are asking. I don't see it answered in the data, either. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:03 PM Response to Reply #172 |
178. 10 Leading Causes of Death, United States - 1999 - 2004, All Races, Females |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:09 PM Response to Reply #117 |
179. OMG. You actually said it |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:23 PM Response to Reply #179 |
188. Apparently you didn't read what I said |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:41 PM Response to Reply #188 |
206. No, it's not what you said, but it permeates every post you've made |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:48 PM Response to Reply #206 |
211. Fine nt |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
44. "these days" |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:15 PM Response to Reply #44 |
181. Hah! I just added you to my buddy list trying to check your profile |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:22 PM Response to Reply #181 |
186. I hate it when that happens! |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:25 PM Response to Reply #186 |
191. Ain't that the truth! LOL. So, have YOU noted any men |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:30 PM Original message |
I'm not sure. I think one or two tried but |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:38 PM Response to Reply #191 |
204. please se my post #42 |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:49 PM Response to Reply #204 |
212. Surely you're kidding, aren't you? ROTFL |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 03:04 PM Response to Reply #212 |
222. This is no longer a discussion --it's just another personal attack |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #181 |
267. Anybody with your handle |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
71. How to prevent it? |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
75. Not this again. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:15 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. We don't ask questions about "the 9.9%". |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:22 PM Response to Reply #77 |
84. You're afraid to discuss the 25% who are murdered also..... Why's that? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Deleted message |
bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #85 |
116. LOL! I thought you went to play in traffic, Baby Bloo? Took your red ball and went home. |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:42 PM Response to Reply #84 |
99. It's 20%, actually. And what of it? |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:08 PM Response to Reply #99 |
128. I think it's significant, and I think anyone who desperately needs to dispute it |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:34 PM Response to Reply #75 |
93. where's you get your stat on complications from pregnancy being more common in the US? |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:51 PM Response to Reply #93 |
110. Source inside. And it's a matter of perspective. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:56 PM Response to Reply #110 |
115. like the kind of perspective that men kill other men more often than other women? |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
80. "What is wrong with men these days" is going way too far |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
89. Let's view this from a different angle - |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:35 PM Response to Reply #89 |
95. Active voice is better writing, but that's exactly the issue at question |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #95 |
107. Seems likely it would be an abuser doing the murdering. |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:56 PM Response to Reply #107 |
113. That was my point - but the word "abuser" is so freaking |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:01 PM Response to Reply #113 |
118. Intimate Partner Homicide and Pregnancy |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:06 PM Response to Reply #118 |
126. Oops! I'm so sorry about that. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:08 PM Response to Reply #107 |
127. OK |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:21 PM Response to Reply #127 |
143. The editorial notes that "homicide is the leading killer of young women, pregnant or not," |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #95 |
108. My post was created when there were zero replies to the OP |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:12 PM Response to Reply #108 |
132. I read and appreciated your post |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #132 |
170. Why? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:26 PM Response to Reply #170 |
192. I didn't make the switch, I pointed out that the author and many posters made the switch |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 03:10 PM Response to Reply #192 |
227. First we must identify that there is a problem... |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 03:14 PM Response to Reply #227 |
228. Breeze54 supplied some numbers upthread |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:41 PM Response to Reply #95 |
162. This is so incredibly stupid |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:32 PM Response to Reply #162 |
198. You have 0 standing to question my humanity, nor to accuse my of misogyny |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #198 |
262. And then you'll do WHAT precisely? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:47 PM Response to Reply #262 |
266. We ended up finding the numbers upthread |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:53 PM Response to Reply #266 |
270. "singling out of pregnant women"? That IS the topic!!! |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 05:02 PM Response to Reply #270 |
273. OK |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:21 PM Response to Reply #273 |
304. You know, for all the emphasis on finding the right numbers, I do |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
98. k&r |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #98 |
103. Have to make it through the man-bashing before we can get to appalled. n/t |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #103 |
106. Why is that? |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:51 PM Response to Reply #103 |
111. Thanks for proving my point |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #111 |
130. "poor widdle men"? |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:12 PM Response to Reply #103 |
131. You mean as versus pregnant women bashing happening in the |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:12 PM Response to Reply #131 |
180. When I read a comment like |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:38 PM Response to Reply #180 |
203. Well, you could have read "men who murder" |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #98 |
104. It's quite creepy. |
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Louie the XIV (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:02 PM Response to Reply #104 |
119. It's very similar to the reaction to the stories of the Iranian stonings of women |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #119 |
150. Thank you and Welcome to DU! |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 03:03 PM Response to Reply #119 |
221. Are you male? |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:04 PM Response to Reply #98 |
123. What do you want? Should we post crying youtube videos of us apologizing for murders we didn't do? |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #123 |
139. Poor Little Thing |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:36 PM Response to Reply #139 |
159. I don't need your fake sympathy. I'm also not a victim of anything. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #159 |
166. I don't hate men and this thread isn't about men. It's about women! |
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PCIntern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #166 |
171. Hi Breeze54! |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:23 PM Response to Reply #159 |
187. So you think this thread exists just to bash men? |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 10:18 AM Response to Reply #123 |
301. "There is at least one of these posts a day about how evil all men are. " |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:46 PM Response to Reply #98 |
165. Yes -- At this point I don't think there's a single man who has shown |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:23 PM Response to Reply #165 |
189. Hell, we never had the chance. |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:30 PM Response to Reply #189 |
197. Is that the best excuse you can muster? |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
124. How 'bout, instead of murdering her and the child and instead |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:20 PM Response to Reply #124 |
184. Deleted message |
stanwyck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:37 PM Response to Reply #184 |
202. You need help |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:53 PM Response to Reply #202 |
215. Nice personal attack from someone who's disabled their profile. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #184 |
217. Deleted message |
MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 03:18 PM Response to Reply #217 |
230. "irresponsible predators like you." Another personal attack. |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #230 |
248. Yes, you know because all men are predators. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:19 PM Response to Reply #248 |
254. Not true but predators are most likely male. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:33 PM Response to Reply #254 |
260. And murderers of intimate partners are practically all male |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
134. New Thread! |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #134 |
154. I've posted that link numerous times here! |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
144. From the Thread on Domestic Violence |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
160. I think it strange that posts such as this |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:51 PM Response to Reply #160 |
169. I'm surprised. |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #169 |
174. I think to stop it we have to truly understand why it happens. |
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PCIntern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:59 PM Response to Reply #169 |
176. If that's the case, |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:17 PM Response to Reply #176 |
182. Because your thread didn't have a title and I've since re-read your thread |
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PCIntern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:28 PM Response to Reply #182 |
193. Well, I'm so pleased that I could inspire you! |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:38 PM Response to Reply #193 |
205. You remind me of an idiot I used to know. |
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PCIntern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:47 PM Response to Reply #205 |
209. I'm hurt... |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #209 |
218. Trying to lay blame and infuse another topic in this thread is silly. |
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PCIntern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #218 |
235. how? |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 03:52 PM Response to Reply #235 |
239. You assume I've been present on DU for the last week. |
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PCIntern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 03:58 PM Response to Reply #239 |
242. Yes |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #242 |
243. You should follow DU guidlines for posting topics. They're pretty |
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PCIntern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:22 PM Response to Reply #243 |
256. Don't lecture me - you may be buds with the mods |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:28 PM Response to Reply #256 |
259. I wasn't lecturing you! Get that chip off your shoulder!! |
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PCIntern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 06:10 PM Response to Reply #259 |
284. i want the record to state that |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 06:24 PM Response to Reply #284 |
288. Why did you even mention it at all, in your Ohio thread? |
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PCIntern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 06:33 PM Response to Reply #288 |
290. I thought you had said 'goodbye' |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #160 |
175. Because many |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:30 PM Response to Reply #175 |
195. If you step back and look at how some of the women are quick to |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:41 PM Response to Reply #195 |
208. If You Were a Good Man |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 03:19 PM Response to Reply #208 |
231. No worries |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 03:49 PM Response to Reply #160 |
237. From ALL sides? |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 05:02 PM Response to Reply #237 |
274. I think you just proved Mythsaje's point. |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 05:59 PM Response to Reply #274 |
282. I think that pretty much covers it... |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
183. Here's a similar 2005 study |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
196. "...joyful, happy time..." |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
207. a couple of things |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:50 PM Response to Reply #207 |
213. The AP writer should've included some links...actually I think she did give a source. |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 03:04 PM Response to Reply #213 |
223. again |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 03:40 PM Response to Reply #223 |
234. I suggest |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 03:50 PM Response to Reply #234 |
238. It is not condoning violence against women to say the article is misleading |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 03:55 PM Response to Reply #238 |
241. The article addresses it's title. You are adding the who gets killed more mem! |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:03 PM Response to Reply #241 |
247. ...and his point |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #247 |
250. Yup!! |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:16 PM Response to Reply #247 |
253. I've specifically avoided that topic |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:51 PM Response to Reply #247 |
268. Delete |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #241 |
249. Pregnant women safer from murder than other women |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:22 PM Response to Reply #249 |
257. It's all under counted and under researched, as we already established. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 03:42 PM Response to Reply #223 |
236. DEATHS- Final Data 2003 - National Vital Statistics report |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #236 |
244. That one was even more clear |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:03 PM Response to Reply #244 |
246. This is the 2nd link I've posted with age charts broken down... |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:13 PM Response to Reply #246 |
251. Right. 4.6 vs. 1.7 |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:46 PM Response to Reply #251 |
264. no -- the subset would be included in those figures nt |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:52 PM Response to Reply #264 |
269. Right, but we know the pregnant women's murder rate is roughly 1.7 |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:57 PM Response to Reply #269 |
271. You must've missed the part that clearly states that |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 05:05 PM Response to Reply #271 |
277. But that just makes the difference greater |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 05:09 PM Response to Reply #277 |
278. Not necessarily. I guess you should e-mail the researchers and ask. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 05:14 PM Response to Reply #278 |
281. It is, and we have to take violence against women out of the darkness |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #236 |
263. Thank you for the link |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:47 PM Response to Reply #263 |
265. This is THE stupidest post I've ever seen...bar none.... |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 05:03 PM Response to Reply #265 |
276. Cancer deaths have everything to do with this |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 06:28 PM Response to Reply #276 |
289. Cancer is the number 2 cause of death in women (all ages) |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 06:21 PM Response to Reply #236 |
287. Leading causes of death in US women |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 07:23 PM Response to Reply #287 |
291. End Abuse |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #223 |
245. ...and frankly |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:58 PM Response to Reply #245 |
272. i think you need to calm down and read |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 05:12 PM Response to Reply #272 |
279. The story is based on facts!!! |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 06:09 PM Response to Reply #279 |
283. in fairness it is |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 05:13 PM Response to Reply #272 |
280. From Here On Out |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 06:11 PM Response to Reply #280 |
285. actually by hate crimes |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 06:15 PM Response to Reply #285 |
286. ...and women are murdered more than gay men... |
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MedleyMisty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 07:31 PM Response to Reply #286 |
292. I'm reading about the effects of oppression on oppressed groups in The Nature of Prejudice |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 05:02 PM Response to Reply #245 |
275. You know what makes it even worse -- certainly more ironic |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:24 PM Response to Reply #207 |
258. Ya had me going -- for all the world I thought you were going to |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:33 PM Response to Original message |
261. An important, if disturbing, thread. And: |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
293. Oh oh, you posted a link from NOW |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 08:16 PM Response to Reply #293 |
295. Yeah...I'd better straighten up 'my act'! LOL! |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 08:47 PM Response to Reply #295 |
296. You're welcome, and thank YOU |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
294. kick...n/t |
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kiteinthewind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
297. Thanks for posting this! I teach prenatal education and I do a Domestic Violence screening of all my |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 10:40 AM Response to Reply #297 |
302. You are to be commended! |
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Miss Chybil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:27 AM Response to Original message |
300. Terminating parental rights in order to dodge child support is a non-starter. |
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