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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:11 PM Original message |
Domestic Violence |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
1. kicking n/t |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
2. Good source for stats |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
3. Say Something People...n/t |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
4. I will never understand domestic violence |
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peacefreak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
17. You are very fortunate never to have been in that position. |
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blondie58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:45 AM Response to Reply #17 |
82. it happens very insidiously |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:02 AM Response to Reply #82 |
118. I'm glad you did!! |
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tomreedtoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
74. It's a simple lesson. People are bastards. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 09:51 AM Response to Reply #74 |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
5. Murder is a leading cause of death for Pregnant women as well. |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:56 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Yeah |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 05:15 PM Response to Reply #10 |
29. So it is... |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #5 |
19. Don't you know that it is all because of feminism? |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 05:12 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. Oh, I'm sure it is. "Them damn uppity bitches just don't know when to shut up anymore!" |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 08:01 AM Response to Reply #19 |
85. Yeah, of course that sort of thing NEVER HAPPENED before the |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 09:37 AM Response to Reply #85 |
96. Women knew it existed before feminism. They developed a quiet |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 08:45 PM Response to Reply #5 |
68. Heartbreaking, but not all that surprising |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
6. I once did a survey about DV resources for men, gay and straight |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:34 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. I know |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:38 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. The system is much more dysfunctional than any of us are. |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Heartbreaking Story |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 01:57 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Goddam preventable tragedies. |
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Zookeeper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:30 AM Response to Reply #9 |
132. Mikala didn't get help, a woman was murdered.... |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
12. k&r |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:34 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Thanks Uppity...n/t |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. You are welcome |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
14. kick |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. If someone kicks me, I kick back... : > ...n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #16 |
33. Me, too. And then, I feel guilty. |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
18. Now this is interesting |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:39 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. The refusal of male DU posters to recognize the hatred men have for women in our society |
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senseandsensibility (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 07:43 PM Response to Reply #21 |
56. I have stayed out of all these threads so far |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 08:20 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. I think most DU males agree. |
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senseandsensibility (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 08:38 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Thanks for the thoughtful response |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 01:37 PM Response to Reply #60 |
182. With all due respect |
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Terran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #60 |
216. As a male DUer... |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #216 |
299. Thank you, Terran -- |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 01:51 AM Response to Reply #21 |
79. explains why misogyny is so prevalent |
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RethugAssKicker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 02:14 PM Response to Reply #21 |
192. From a DU male.... |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:39 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. lol! Or -- What are the stats???? |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:42 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. OMG!! It just happened!! |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Honestly |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 03:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
200. Well, my husband is a strong liberal and a feminist but he wouldn't |
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MedleyMisty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Another main point will be |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #25 |
183. Hmmm, your husband's response is VERY instructive, isn't it? nt |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 09:00 AM Response to Reply #18 |
94. I am outraged, actually. |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 09:58 AM Response to Reply #18 |
100. the DU men always say - not me! its not all men! bad on you for saying all men! |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:05 AM Response to Reply #100 |
119. Small correction there: |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #119 |
150. how would you say it? |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 01:25 PM Response to Reply #150 |
181. I'd replace "race of men" with "some men." |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 01:43 PM Response to Reply #181 |
184. all men benefit from it, bar none. ALL men benefit from it, and few |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 02:21 PM Response to Reply #184 |
193. Excuse me? |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 04:03 PM Response to Reply #193 |
205. Sorry -- the referent had been sort of diluted, ALL MEN BENEFIT |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 04:30 PM Response to Reply #205 |
211. Okay... |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 09:37 PM Response to Reply #211 |
264. Whatever |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 09:54 PM Response to Reply #264 |
266. I'm just trying to understand your anger. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 10:06 PM Response to Reply #266 |
269. You benefit from misogyny/sexism BUT............. (huge pause) |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 10:21 PM Response to Reply #269 |
270. Wow... |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 10:48 PM Response to Reply #270 |
274. You're no ally |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:09 PM Response to Reply #274 |
278. I am an ally, whether you want me to be or not: |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:31 PM Response to Reply #278 |
281. Alrighty, then. |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:40 PM Response to Reply #281 |
282. Excellent. |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #282 |
298. Well, let's be clear here |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 10:43 PM Response to Reply #266 |
272. I noted your post upthread |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:02 PM Response to Reply #272 |
277. I didn't expect you to fawn all over my supportive post upthread. |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 12:09 AM Response to Reply #277 |
284. You're wasting your time |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #284 |
300. Hah! Shows how much YOU know. |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 12:26 PM Response to Reply #211 |
296. when I'm saying 'race of men' I'm thinking globally, saying 'some men |
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Terran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 04:49 PM Response to Reply #205 |
219. This is demonstrably true |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 03:34 PM Response to Reply #184 |
199. Most men would challenge it |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:00 PM Response to Reply #199 |
221. What a bunch of propagandistic hooey. For shame! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 07:28 PM Response to Reply #221 |
260. Deleted message |
Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 09:34 PM Response to Reply #260 |
263. Yes, we DID have to fight a war to get the vote |
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ProgressiveAmPatriot (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:09 PM Response to Reply #18 |
279. Speaking as a male DUer, I couldn't agree more |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 04:33 PM Response to Reply #279 |
302. Thank you, now where are YOU when the DU sexism starts up |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:17 PM Response to Reply #18 |
280. Here's another example -- from a completely different thread |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
20. Another important thread. Thanks, Mad. |
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19jet54 (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
26. Political Force... |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 08:08 AM Response to Reply #26 |
86. Oppressed groups always do that because they have to. |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 10:04 AM Response to Reply #26 |
101. oh please - women have had to use "cunning and deception" |
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19jet54 (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:40 PM Response to Reply #101 |
160. Darfur proves you right... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
28. Deleted message |
mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 05:15 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. You're not serious? |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 05:16 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. You're either very stoopid or very brave. |
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A-Schwarzenegger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 05:17 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Since I dont know you, I dont know if that's a parody. |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 05:32 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. This type of humor will not go over well here. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 05:36 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. double-plus unfunny |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Bravo!!!!! |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. I feel bad about how I came off in the flamefest |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 03:58 AM Response to Reply #45 |
81. Fantastic post |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 12:10 AM Response to Reply #81 |
285. How telling |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 04:07 PM Response to Reply #45 |
301. Actually, you didn't get ENOUGH into anthropology for my taste |
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Mushroom (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 06:17 PM Response to Reply #28 |
47. hmm |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #47 |
186. Welcome to DU! |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 06:19 PM Response to Reply #28 |
48. Self-Delete...n/t |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
34. What can be done? |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 05:34 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. IIMHO, more men need to be actively working as role models |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 05:39 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Organizations scare me |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 05:44 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. They scare me too! lol |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. I used to work daycare |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 06:09 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. I found volunteering to tutor was a good way to connect with neighborhood kids |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
36. All I can say is that in most cases, there WERE signals. |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 05:46 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. Please, tell me I misunderstood your post and that you did not |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 06:34 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. "Blame" is not the operative word.. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 07:02 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. So it IS the woman's fault, in your opinion!! |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 07:40 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. "Alpha" males |
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A-Schwarzenegger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 08:14 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. "because of their own inner fear of being weak" |
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JustJoe (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 01:05 AM Response to Reply #59 |
287. Thank you. |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 07:15 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. So it's because girls are "ill-prepared" and women "choose" poorly |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 07:37 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. You are WAY missing the point |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 08:09 PM Response to Reply #49 |
58. The answer isn't for women to choose better men, it's for men to be less violent |
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rainman99 (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 08:42 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. I was in a bad first marriage and my mom would say |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 08:48 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. I suppose if you've been living in fear |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 08:51 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. Me too and my sister had the gall to say; |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 08:18 AM Response to Reply #49 |
87. "We are comfortable with the familiar, even if it is painful." |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 09:55 AM Response to Reply #49 |
99. I hope you don't mean what you say. This is another shade of blaming the victim. n/t |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 10:56 AM Response to Reply #49 |
116. There's a fine and dangerous line here |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:18 AM Response to Reply #49 |
125. Uh men have nothing to do with this? Just let them go |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:34 AM Response to Reply #49 |
133. I was one of these women once.Fact was my boyfriend beat me, I blame him. |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
40. This is what should be focused on THIS case and others like it |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
51. k&r n/t |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
55. This kind of crap is infuriating. |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 07:57 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Thank-you!...n/t |
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rainman99 (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 08:40 PM Response to Reply #55 |
64. Yeah, me too. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
61. Any Man Who Lays A Hand On A Woman For Any Other Reason Than Self Defense, Is A Coward. |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 08:39 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. From the Above Stats with plenty of links... |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 08:43 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. You're Talking At Me, Not To Me. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 09:17 AM Response to Reply #66 |
95. women are just as likely to abuse men? I Call Bull Shit! |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:13 AM Response to Reply #95 |
121. As Likely Or Even More So. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:35 AM Response to Reply #121 |
134. It's a game to support your outrageous claim? Bullshit, I'm better versed on the subject than you |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:08 PM Response to Reply #134 |
148. No. It's A Game To You, As You Just Made Readily Clear. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:41 PM Response to Reply #148 |
161. what part of "Ive read that BS already" don't you understand? if u think youre educating |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #161 |
166. I Highly Doubt You've Ever Done So Objectively And With An Open Mind. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 01:04 PM Response to Reply #166 |
175. Who Cares What You *Think,*LOL! You cite meaningless crap |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 01:10 PM Response to Reply #175 |
177. Not Any More Than What You Cite. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 01:12 PM Response to Reply #177 |
178. Doh! Too bad I have not cited anything. You are f'ing hilarious though. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:53 AM Response to Reply #121 |
141. Women are NOT more likely to engage in violence then men. Period! |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:58 AM Response to Reply #141 |
144. I Hope You Understand That Violence Includes Far More Things Than Homicide. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:01 PM Response to Reply #144 |
145. No, she didn't know that. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:16 PM Response to Reply #144 |
153. Of course... BUT 96% of the offenders were MALE!!! |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:23 PM Response to Reply #153 |
156. You'll want to re-read that. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:30 PM Response to Reply #153 |
158. And 83.9% Of Them Were Female. And That's Obviously Only Those That Are Reported. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:38 PM Response to Reply #158 |
159. men are far more likely to not admit being violent when they are polled |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:45 PM Response to Reply #159 |
164. I'm Referencing More The Opposite. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #164 |
167. it's in the links you don;t want to provide, LOL. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:54 PM Response to Reply #167 |
171. You Seem Fixated On One Direction. But You Need To Turn Around. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #171 |
179. WTF are you talking about? I haven;t cited anything, YOU"RE CONFUSED, EH? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #158 |
163. Have you got any evidence... |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #163 |
168. ask OMC for his links... I have seen the studies he thinks provide "stats" |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #158 |
201. 83.9% are female offenders of the mere 12% of male victims of |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 04:47 PM Response to Reply #201 |
218. And You're Pulling This 12% Out Of Where Now? |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:17 PM Response to Reply #218 |
228. "You Love How People Make Stuff Up" Um We Know You Love Yourself Quite Greatly and Logically!! |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:23 PM Response to Reply #228 |
232. Yes, I Love How People Make Stuff Up. Like That Laughable And False On Its Face 12% Number LOL |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:28 PM Response to Reply #232 |
236. not as your hilariously insupportable and pathetically BASELESS LINKLESS bullshit, |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:30 PM Response to Reply #236 |
238. Wrong Again. The 12% Number Was Far More Insupportable Then My Accurate Assertion. 12% Is Laughable |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:36 PM Response to Reply #238 |
243. Not according to the U.S. Department of Justice. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #243 |
245. 12%. LMFAO! |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #245 |
247. It's right there for everybody to see. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:42 PM Response to Reply #247 |
248. Where? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:46 PM Response to Reply #248 |
250. At the DoJ link, next page over. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 06:29 PM Response to Reply #238 |
255. You should read the method of gathering info for the statistics before you laugh. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 06:51 PM Response to Reply #255 |
258. Well that's Not an "Impression" from "Multiple Angles" and it maybe an official govt report |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 10:00 PM Response to Reply #218 |
267. Ooops. Ya got me. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 10:39 PM Response to Reply #267 |
271. You Really Need To Learn How To Interpret Studies. My God. |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 10:50 PM Response to Reply #271 |
275. Well, given how many study links you've posted |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #121 |
151. You're playing semantics here |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:15 PM Response to Reply #151 |
152. For The Record, I'm Not The One Who Started Focusing The Conversation On That. |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 08:44 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. Well; maybe there's one other reason to touch, besides self-defense! |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 08:51 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. Hehehehe. Damn Missing Predicates LOL Guess I Shoulda Said Violent Hand. |
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Somawas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 07:19 AM Response to Reply #61 |
84. True. |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 08:23 AM Response to Reply #61 |
89. I sincerely doubt that. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:14 AM Response to Reply #89 |
122. Rather Than Retyping: |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:24 AM Response to Reply #122 |
128. Oh, yeah. And you're not going to provide links. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:53 AM Response to Reply #128 |
143. I Could If I Had To. But Like I Said, I Think Here It's More Valuable For You To Research On Your |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #143 |
154. If you want to spoonfeed me by PM, I'd be grateful. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:36 AM Response to Reply #122 |
135. Look up the Sites that defend Rapists- they are the ones who also make |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:37 AM Response to Reply #122 |
136. I would like to see what you base this assertion on. Seriously. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:06 PM Response to Reply #136 |
147. it's all small studies, non published, ALL where people self report- |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #147 |
155. my poll for self reporting. I think I recall it being done before, but here again |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #155 |
157. no researcher with credibility bases anything on the results of questionaires- it's embarrassing |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:42 PM Response to Reply #157 |
162. No Person With Credibility Would Dismiss The Results Of Such Things Altogether Either. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #162 |
165. no, i'm merely saying your arguement is BASED ON VERY FLAWED "RESEARCH" |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:52 PM Response to Reply #165 |
170. You Completely Failed To See A Huge Point In My Post. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:59 PM Response to Reply #170 |
172. I fail to consider data that doesn't exsist? when men band together to |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 01:09 PM Response to Reply #172 |
176. You Fail To Consider The Reality Of The Situation, Because It Doesn't Align With Your Agenda. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 01:14 PM Response to Reply #176 |
180. She's offering to consider it, but you won't provide the links. |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 03:53 PM Response to Reply #180 |
203. He can pretty much be relied on to disrupt and flaunt his |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 04:29 PM Response to Reply #203 |
210. Check Yourself. |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #210 |
213. Uh, no, your very first reply in this thread was pretty much shit |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #213 |
215. Says You. You Are Not The Be All End All. The Response Was Perfectly Fine And Benign. |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 09:41 PM Response to Reply #215 |
265. Sexism isn't benign. Sorry. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 10:46 PM Response to Reply #265 |
273. Awwwww, So Cute. There's The Cookie Cutter Sexist Crap. Nothing About It Was Sexist. |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 10:52 PM Response to Reply #273 |
276. Just so much more mental masturbation from you. I'm out. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #170 |
188. Actually we have no idea what the rate of underreporting for either sex is |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 02:29 PM Response to Reply #188 |
194. I appreciate your thoughtful response, as far as the under reporting |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #194 |
209. You're The One Putting Words In My Mouth. And The Premise Is Not Exaggerated But Accurate. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:10 PM Response to Reply #209 |
225. You're not backing it up because you cannot. No one is stupid enough tpo fall for this BS anyway. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:22 PM Response to Reply #225 |
231. Anyone With An Open Objective Mind And Non Sexist Extremist Agenda Could Reach The Same Conclusion. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #231 |
235. YOUR WORDS DON'T INTEREST ME IN THE LEAST, So Cite A Source Or Kiss Off |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:31 PM Response to Reply #235 |
239. So You Can't Do It Then. You Can't Even Support YOUR OWN Position. How Novel. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:37 PM Response to Reply #239 |
244. never claimed jack- except thet You Are Full Of Shit. But You Can;t Prove Me Wrong, |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:44 PM Response to Reply #244 |
249. You Can't Prove Me Wrong Either. So You're Admitting To Not Being Able To Support Your Position |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:56 PM Response to Reply #249 |
251. That's not how it works- You Quoted A Laughable Stat - and it remains Disproven on this Thread |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 06:33 PM Response to Reply #251 |
256. That Is How It Works. And My Assertion Was Not A Quote. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 06:45 PM Response to Reply #256 |
257. In Other Words, You Fabricated That Stat-From "Multiple Angles" LOL- U Got Jack and Ur Owned!!!! |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 07:04 PM Response to Reply #257 |
259. No, In Your Narrow Minded And Simplistic Words. In Reality, Your One Dimensional View Got Owned. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 04:30 PM Response to Reply #61 |
212. Deleted message |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #212 |
217. I've Explained Why. But Then, I'd Wager Explanations Don't Matter To You, And Only Coming Here |
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mudesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 04:49 PM Response to Reply #217 |
220. Those who make claims are responsible for backing them up |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:04 PM Response to Reply #220 |
223. You Need To Pay More Attention To My Explanations. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:13 PM Response to Reply #223 |
227. Willing participants? |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:28 PM Response to Reply #227 |
237. Why Is It Always So Hard For You To Grasp Such Accurately Explained Premise? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:34 PM Response to Reply #237 |
240. I'm both open-minded and objective. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:36 PM Response to Reply #240 |
242. Oh Come On. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #242 |
246. It's true. |
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mudesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:35 PM Response to Reply #223 |
241. Call them "explanations" all you want |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 06:01 PM Response to Reply #241 |
253. the dog ate his links! why there are so many links, he can;t choose just one! |
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gravity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:06 PM Response to Reply #61 |
224. The difference is the severity of abuse |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:24 PM Response to Reply #224 |
233. 100% Agree, And I've Repeated That Same Premise Several Times. You Are Right There. |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
72. Excellent topic |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-24-07 11:30 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Thank-you!...n/t |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:20 AM Response to Original message |
75. PLEASE don't ignore verbal and emotional abuse as well which... |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:39 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Thanks for the links! |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:46 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. You're very welcome...I hope they help someone... |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 10:17 AM Response to Reply #75 |
104. TRUE |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 10:19 AM Response to Reply #75 |
106. kicking this post! |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:33 AM Response to Reply #106 |
292. Very true. It breaks their spirit and destroys their self-esteem... |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 10:08 AM Response to Reply #292 |
304. wow -- this post describes the ex perfectly |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 10:13 AM Response to Reply #304 |
305. another link for you if you (or anyone) still needs support... |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 02:05 PM Response to Reply #75 |
190. Excellent post. Another warning. Not only does verbal and |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:29 AM Response to Reply #190 |
291. Agreed! There IS no such thing as "just" verbally abusive... |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 10:03 PM Response to Reply #75 |
268. Thanks For The Links |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 01:14 AM Response to Original message |
78. Domestic violence is ALWAYS the man's fault. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 08:23 AM Response to Reply #78 |
88. Thank you. You put my feelings into words better than I could. |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 10:19 AM Response to Reply #78 |
105. maybe you could tutor DU men? |
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edbermac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 03:47 PM Response to Reply #78 |
202. BULLSHIT! |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 04:38 PM Response to Reply #202 |
214. I don't suppose it was his fault that she drank, |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 03:14 AM Response to Reply #214 |
288. Frankly, F you and the horse you rode in on |
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edbermac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 08:37 AM Response to Reply #288 |
293. Ditto for me. |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 10:43 AM Response to Reply #293 |
294. Posts like yours and the one above are normal |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 12:42 PM Response to Reply #294 |
297. Obviously I have an emotional stake in it, and I don't doubt the statement is useful in your group |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 03:54 PM Response to Reply #78 |
204. Please don't take this wrong. I agree with everything you said but |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 04:07 PM Response to Reply #78 |
206. Why do I not see you on any threads about women's issues? |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 06:25 PM Response to Reply #78 |
254. best reply in the thread, thank you n/t |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 02:07 AM Response to Original message |
80. for the past five or six years, I've been doing some part-time work for our local shelter . . . |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 10:54 AM Response to Reply #80 |
115. Good info and advice! |
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blondie58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 06:26 AM Response to Original message |
83. I also suspect that having children is part of the catalyst |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 08:25 AM Response to Reply #83 |
90. Probably a lot of them just don't want to take responsibility for anything. nt |
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verse18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 08:43 AM Response to Reply #90 |
92. self-delete |
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wicket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
91. ((((((Madspirit)))))))) |
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verse18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
93. I'll add this to the pot as well- |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
97. Abuse is an equal opportunity crime |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 10:04 AM Response to Reply #97 |
102. Did you read the original post? |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 10:13 AM Response to Reply #102 |
103. Those are incorrect |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 10:22 AM Response to Reply #103 |
107. So you're going to ignore all the studies and info in this thread because of 8 pages in one book? |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 10:41 AM Response to Reply #107 |
110. Considering |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 10:44 AM Response to Reply #110 |
111. Can you explain what you think the article you cited says? |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 10:48 AM Response to Reply #110 |
112. A few websites including the Center for Disease Control |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 10:52 AM Response to Reply #112 |
114. Tell that to Einstein when he was working on the problem of the ether (nt) |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:53 AM Response to Reply #114 |
142. Is that what you think is going on here? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 01:01 PM Response to Reply #114 |
174. Frankly that's a romaticization of how science works |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:49 PM Response to Reply #110 |
283. *snort* |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 10:40 AM Response to Reply #103 |
109. Busch & Rosenberg was a qualitative study |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #109 |
113. Then how about these refereed sources? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #113 |
117. You must have ignored the original claim |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:05 AM Response to Reply #117 |
120. No I didn't, I responded to it and you conceded the point even quoting |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:28 AM Response to Reply #120 |
130. Apparently you didn't read that study |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:41 AM Response to Reply #120 |
137. It's rather dumb to think women aren't capable of violence but |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #120 |
234. So I just went on University paper search |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #113 |
124. You Are 100% Correct. |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:27 AM Response to Reply #113 |
129. "Heinous misandry." |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:05 PM Response to Reply #129 |
146. I'm glad you think it's a laughing matter |
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Dora (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #146 |
187. No, you haven't downplayed. You have only attempted to distract. |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 07:37 PM Response to Reply #187 |
261. CLINTON DID IT TOOOOO!!!! |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 03:21 PM Response to Reply #146 |
198. the studies you have cited ARE LAUGHABLE and you'd know that if you |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:04 PM Response to Reply #146 |
222. The situation is no where near "somewhat equal" -- |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:11 PM Response to Reply #146 |
226. By claiming INCORRECTLY they are somewhat equal, you are indeed downplaying violence against women |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:20 PM Response to Reply #226 |
230. NO IT ISN'T |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:59 PM Response to Reply #230 |
252. but you can't actually prove that. and the 50% of arrested women- that shit was hilarious. |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:09 PM Response to Reply #113 |
149. Fiebert is at best an unreliable source. At worst, a liar with an |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #149 |
173. Two and a half points |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 01:57 PM Response to Reply #173 |
189. 1. His website and the assertions he makes are NOT peer |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 03:16 PM Response to Reply #189 |
197. Jesus |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 04:13 PM Response to Reply #197 |
207. You mean the one in my post to which I provided a link - |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 05:17 PM Response to Reply #207 |
229. Peer review |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 11:37 AM Response to Reply #229 |
295. My, my, my - how patronizing we've become, cgrindley |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #173 |
191. Friebert says only 25-30% of intimate violence is female on male |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 02:47 PM Response to Reply #191 |
195. Thanks, I read all that years ago- but OMC thinks it's actually good research |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 07:43 PM Response to Reply #195 |
262. The "IGNORE" function |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #173 |
196. NOT PEER REVIEWED, DO YOU JUST MAKE THIS CRAP UP OR WHAT? |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 06:35 AM Response to Reply #196 |
289. The Answer Is Yes, They Do |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 04:19 PM Response to Reply #97 |
208. Yes, by all means, let's "disappear" the underlying misogyny, the |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
108. thank you, thank you, thank you - for posting these stats |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
123. Women are killed more often in this country than |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:19 AM Response to Reply #123 |
126. How do you define group? |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:43 AM Response to Reply #126 |
138. That is what I am trying to say, that women are killed more by |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:23 AM Response to Reply #123 |
127. That is laughably wrong |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:43 AM Response to Reply #127 |
139. See post #126 |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:30 AM Response to Reply #123 |
131. about 80% of murder victims are men, along with about 95% of murderers |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 11:44 AM Response to Reply #131 |
140. Yes, that is not exactly how I meant it to come out |
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UrbScotty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-25-07 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
169. Real men don't do that kind of thing. (nt) |
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barb162 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 12:21 AM Response to Original message |
286. Great post. |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:05 AM Response to Original message |
290. great OP and very interesting |
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wicket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
303. kick |
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