chris matthews: 'we've got Patton & John Wayne on our side' (women can't be presidents)

[Philosoraptor]

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/

On the June 24 edition of the NBC-syndicated Chris Matthews Show, during a discussion about Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY), host Chris Matthews asked Kathleen Parker, a syndicated columnist with the Washington Post Writers Group, if "being surrounded by women" makes "a case for commander in chief -- or does it make a case against it?" <...>

Asked by Time managing editor Richard Stengel, "What are you suggesting by asking does this diminish her as a commander in chief by being surrounded by women?," Matthews replied: "No, the idea that it -- well, let me just get historic. We've never had a woman commander in chief."

As a follow-up to his question, Matthews said: "But isn't that a challenge, because when it comes down to that final decision to vote for president, a woman president, a woman commander in chief, will be an historic decision for people. Not just men, but women as well." Turning to New York Times reporter Elisabeth Bumiller, Matthews added: "Elisabeth, you're always thinking about these things." Bumiller referred to Golda Meir and Margaret Thatcher -- women who were elected to lead Israel and the United Kingdom -- and said: "e all remember these women.... I think we can get there." Matthews responded, "But we've got Patton and John Wayne on our side."

[liberal N proud]

1. What a pig

A pig way past his 15 minutes.

[eShirl]

2. ah yes, the winning ticket of Patton-Wayne '52

shut up Tweety

[Philosoraptor]

3. Not to diminish Presidents Patton and Wayne...

...but thank GOD we didn't have president Joan Crawford during dubya dubya one!

[mediaman007]

4. I'm not sure that Patton and John Wayne were examples of

thoughtful, creative and responsive leadership.

[Philosoraptor]

6. Say, wasn't John Wayne a lousy cowboy star in the movies?

How does this qualify him to the president, particularly when he's so demised.

[rodeodance]

5. in other words--------macho is the key litmus test for being commander in chief!

[Philosoraptor]

7. A man needs to wear his pistols on his belt, women don't have belts.

[DemBones DemBones]

8. Tweety is such an idiot. nt

[jollyreaper2112]

9. the thing that pisses me off about tweety

He's passed off as some kind of political insight guy but his questions and observations are so mundane as to border on the moronic. I could get better political commentary from the drunk guy at the local bar! I'll throw on CSPAN and start feeding him beers.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

10. Yikes. This is what they had left AFTER they edited the show?

Imagine the outtakes...
"Kathleen, is America really ready for a chick president? Is that what we've come to?"

[rasputin1952]

11. Patton and John Wayne...surprised he ddn't say Nixon and bush

...wtf is the matter Tweety???

Anf talk abotu extremes...Patton was a blodthirsty egomaniac, and John Wayne was a coward...the only thing he did that was heroic, is a bunch of fantasies on the Silver Screen. LOL...when I was in the Army, it was an insult to be called "John Wayne"...:D

[Cassandra]

12. If Tweety ever lands in jail for anything...

when he's picked to service the biggest, meanest SOB in the place, he'll be in heaven.

[mitchum]

35. Yes, he'll be holding onto that belt loop tightly and lovingly

He's really a pathetic creature. If I didn't despise him so much, I would pity him

[Solly Mack]

13. Being a he-man warmonger is hardly a positive

but the idea that a woman can't command the military is pure ignorance.

Exactly what part does this idiot think a woman isn't capable of - giving the order or pulling the trigger ourselves??

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

14. We had this on yesterday, it follows MTP. Hubby turned it off, in disgust, once he began to

speculate on how "feminine" Senator Clinton could allow herself to be, in order to win the presidency. And, at one point, IIRC, he said something about femininity being toxic or poisonous.

That's when we both said, "Enough of this specious crap" and turned it off.

How in hell is Matthews considered any sort of pundit about anything? :shrug: MKJ

[pwb]

15. John Wayne wasn't even in the service.

I am so sick of tweety, Buchanan, Kristal etc. can we get some fresh opinion and questions that aren't statements.

[Philosoraptor]

19. And George C. Scott isn't even mentioned.

reagan and wayne put on make up and costumes for their country, so in chris's mind all that matters is how manly they smelled.

[RandomKoolzip]

16. That's re-goddamn-diculous.

[Philosoraptor]

18. Ab so fuckin lutely.

[Bitwit1234]

17. What's macho got to do with it.

We have two of the most macho buttholes in the presidency bush and cheney and what has that got us. Macho....a man who runs and hides when asked to defend his country, but dribbles in glee with he can send other people to do what they are too coward to.

By the way, Oprah never fought in a war but hasn't she managed a host spot, starting in Baltimore in the 1970-80 into being one of the richest people in the world. Maybe we do need a woman in charge, if and she is a woman and a minority and she took her acumen to those heights, wonder what a woman could do for this country. The men have had a go at it and look at the mess. A woman couldn't do any worst.

[Stinky The Clown]

20. REAL SIMPLE REASON FOR THIS:

No man crush would be possible for Chris.

He'd be forced to start dating his own hand again.

(Yeah .. I know ..... he's married. What's your point?)

[Philosoraptor]

21. Nothing trips his trigger like the rich, musky smell of another dude.

[WinkyDink]

37. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge! ;)

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

22. Patton Oswald?

:shrug:

[City Lights]

23. Matthews has worn out his welcome in my home.

He judges candidates on their level of manliness and on whether he'd like to have a beer with 'em. How mature. :eyes:

He's a boorish slob.

I guess Hillary flunked his Aqua Velva test.

[TwilightGardener]

24. "We've got (Patton, Wayne) on our side"--WTF? "Our" side?

Whose side? Men vs. women? Are we signing up for teams now? Is it inconceivable in his fevered Hillary-hating little brain that men and women can work together and be ON THE SAME SIDE? He sounds like a fourth-grader who won't let girls into his treehouse.

[Philosoraptor]

25. You dumb ol' girls can't even play football. He-man woman haters club.

[JerseygirlCT]

29. The He-man Women Hater's Club nt

[Matsubara]

26. THIS John Wayne?

His real name was Marion, and he PLAYED tough guys in movies.


Tweety, hello! He was an ACTOR!

[Kingshakabobo]

36. I know Wayne was a chickenhawk but I was still a bit of a fan........

.......I really didn't need to see THAT! YIKES!

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[JerseygirlCT]

27. And John Wayne ever did WHAT exactly?

What a stupid, stupid thing to say.

[peekaloo]

28. Marion Morrison sounds like a girl's name.

:evilgrin:

Chris has locker room issues.

[Philosoraptor]

30. "Smile when ya say that pilgrim".

[dkofos]

31. Why don't women just Imus the bastard. Get pissed, stay pissed

and bring the asshole down. Who the fuck does he think he is??

[Philosoraptor]

32. misogynist kick

[mitchum]

33. I think when Tweety was carrying Tip O'Neill's bags, he was also...

getting into Tip's booze.
Only wet brain can explain the extent of that man's utter stupidity

[treestar]

34. What a moran

If he's against where Hillary stands on the issues, then why not just say so? No, he has to resort to this stupidity.

[Philosoraptor]

38. Yeah, but he can talk real, real fast, & ask candidates stupid questions.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

39. Well. there is that.

:-) MKJ