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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 03:17 PM
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Poll question: Universal health care: Bad jobs, bad marriages.
Edited on Mon Jun-25-07 03:53 PM by Zookeeper
So, I'm wondering how many people feel stuck in a job they hate, or an unhappy marriage because it's the only way to keep their health insurance.

Are you, or is someone you know in that situation?

Do you think universal/single payer health care for all will cause a spike in divorces or job resignations?

Edited for people who need to answer, "No."



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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 03:19 PM
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1. How about I LIKE my job and my health insurance. :)
but your point is well taken.
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 12:04 AM
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11. Well, I'm glad you have both.
:hi:
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 03:19 PM
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2. there are no options that are counter to your premise
:shrug:
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 03:23 PM
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3. Should there be?
I'm just asking for a response to a specific question. :shrug:

The counter to my premise is to answer, "No."

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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 03:28 PM
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4. Well then I guess I cannot vote in your poll.
I am happily married and have a job that I keep for many reasons, not just for the health insurance.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 03:29 PM
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5. I know people both in jobs and marriages solely for health insurance.
I don't have any health insurance.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 03:33 PM
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6. If your marriage is that bad
you will leave it, regardless of whatever benefits you think staying with the spouse affords you.
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 03:44 PM
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7. I know a two-time cancer survivor....
who is staying in a marriage that would have ended years ago, except that she knows she won't be able to get insurance on her own. Now her husband is suggesting divorce.

Very sad.

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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 04:15 PM
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9. Yes, that is
definitely a sad situation.

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loudestchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 04:08 PM
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8. My husband is self-employed and more than 50% of my paycheck from my part-time job pays for insuranc
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 04:26 PM
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10. Ouch!
That must hurt!

I have neighborhood friends who are a self-employed couple, with children. They always complain about the cost of health insurance. However, they keep voting for Republicans. :eyes:
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 12:08 AM
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12. You should simply tell them this.
The best Republicans have to offer is "don't get sick." At least Democrats are willing to debate the issue at length.
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 12:55 PM
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13. Believe me, I've tried....
They just don't get it. They vote based on scary "what ifs" instead of reality.

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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 01:02 PM
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14. We need to point this ugly fact out to the naysayers out there.
Our health "insurance" system is bad for families, bad for employment, and bad for enterpeneurship.

Good post, ZK!
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 01:12 PM
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15. Good point. It is bad for entreprenuership.
The availability (or non-) of health insurance can keep people trapped. Even if you're happy with your current situation, health care coverage is a big variable when considering a lifestyle change.

(Thanks, Blonde! I worry about how my daughter will get health insurance. How do you manage it? :hi:)

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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 06:09 PM
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19. Mr. B has a great job; but even that is seeming risky right now.
fortunately, he's in demand so if things get risky where he's at, there's a half dozen places waiting to snap him up.

Believe me, I feel ultra-fortunate. :hi:
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 01:26 PM
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16. Cause a spike? No.
Reduce the reasons why people stay in bad jobs or bad marriages by one?

Sure.

That's a good thing.
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Zookeeper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 05:14 PM
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17. I can't help but wonder if the powers that be...
would prefer to have women stay in bad marriages and want to discourage people from leaving their bad jobs. :shrug:
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 05:30 PM
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18. Many more marriages would be good if marriages were
less common. If people weren't indoctrinated into believing that marriage and family are the only true measures of a worthy life, that they are the primary goal of every human, then people wouldn't feel the need to be married unless they'd truly met a life partner.

Instead, every lover has to be evaluated in the race to finding that long-term partner, and if the perfect partner doesn't appear, then a less-than perfect partner must be "settled for," because single people are the social "losers."

Many more children would grow up happy, healthy, and well-adjusted if the only people who had them were those that loved parenting them.

Our legal system encourages people to marry. The tax, health insurance, and property ownership issues alone mean that people marry sooner, and more often, than they might otherwise.

Bad jobs? They want to make sure there is no where else to go. If there is no where else to earn a living, people will stay in their bad jobs, and employers can get away with pay, lack of benefits, working conditions and hours that they couldn't if there were plenty of jobs to be had.
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