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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 04:12 PM
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Gays find a struggle bringing partners into U.S

Gays find a struggle bringing partners into U.S.

Full story: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003761370_gayimmigration25m.html

By Lornet Turnbull
Seattle Times staff reporter


After a trip 14 years ago to Thailand, where he met the man he would eventually marry, Bruce MacDonald began searching for a way -- any way -- for them to be together.

A student visa offered no permanent solution for Suratin Rianpracha, then 27, to live in the U.S., and the possibility of sponsorship by a U.S. employer seemed remote, at best, for someone in the shrimping industry.

MacDonald, who is in his 50s, briefly considered moving to Thailand but knew he wouldn't earn enough as a medical social worker to live there comfortably.

So seven years ago, he relocated to Canada, which granted visas to both men, and they settled in Vancouver's west end.

"I was forced to leave my country but by great good fortune I got to a better place," MacDonald said in a telephone conversation last week.

"I see myself as a Canadian now."

Largely unheard in the loud, public immigration debate about reuniting families and legitimizing illegal immigrants are the stories of nearly 36,000 gays and lesbians in partnerships with people from foreign countries -- couples in an uphill battle for their own form of immigration reform.

Washington state is home to about 700 such couples, putting it among the top 10 states nationwide.

The federal government doesn't recognize their unions, even among those who have legally married in Massachusetts and other countries, because the federal Defense of Marriage Act defines marriage as a union between one man and one woman.

A bill in Congress would permit those who are U.S. citizens or lawful permanent residents to petition to bring their partners to this country legally, in the same way straight citizens can petition for spouses who are from another country. Like straight binational couples, they would have to demonstrate the permanency of their relationships -- in essence, prove the relationship is real.

But in the past seven years, the bill has been introduced five times and seems to have little chance of passing.

"We refer to them as love exiles," said Rachel Tiven, executive director of Immigration Equality, a gay-rights advocacy group. "These are not fly-by-night relationships. These folks are buying homes and making careers."

Some 46 percent of them are raising children, she said, citing census data.

So, couples who can't find another way for the foreign partner to be in the U.S. legally -- say through a petition from a family member or an employer -- say they are left with very few choices.

Some do what MacDonald did, making a life for themselves in a country foreign to them both.

Others relocate to the foreign partner's country, especially when that country has laws favorable to gays, Tiven said.

Film tells story of some

Some live with uncertain status, like Aileen Diaz and Suzie Sayan, whose story is part of a documentary, "Through Thick & Thin," that chronicles the lives of binational gays and lesbians struggling with immigration. There has been no screening of the film in the Seattle area.

The lesbian couple, who at the time the documentary was filmed lived in Seattle's Alki area, have since relocated to Tampa, Fla., which is where their original petition was filed. The only hope for Sayan, a Peruvian native, to avoid deportation to Peru lies in an appeal of her asylum case.

Katharine Ebensteiner of Renton and her partner, Fabienne "Fei" Ruttimann, who lives in Switzerland, don't see any good options for them to live together in the United States.

The women met in 2004 when both were enrolled in a studies-abroad program in Japan.

On the walls of Ebensteiner's apartment are numerous photographs of Ruttimann and of the two women together.

Ebensteiner, 25, who works as a staff technician with a geotech engineering firm, said the relationship is the first real one she's had, and she knows that Ruttimann, 26, who will graduate from college in Switzerland next year, is the woman she wants to spend her life with.

But the two have spent the past two years trying to figure out how to make that happen. "We get no training in high school about how to get your partner into the country," she said.

Immigration lottery

They are trying their luck with the immigration lottery, a long-shot, luck-of-the-draw system for awarding 55,000 green cards out of some 6 million applications worldwide each year. Ultimately, they believe, they'll have to relocate to Canada.

In the ongoing debate over immigration, she's been surprised to find cases like hers have received no attention. "Whenever I hear a report about immigration on the radio, on TV, I listen closely. ... "There's never any mention of this. It's pretty frustrating."

Living in Vancouver, B.C., these days, Bruce MacDonald pays attention to gay-rights politics unfolding in the U.S. because he wants to -- not because he needs to.

He has no plans to return to the U.S. to live.

"I don't feel trapped here," he said. "I have citizenship for both countries and I can go back and forth just fine."

In 2003 when Canada granted gays and lesbians the right to marry, MacDonald and Rianpracha made their bond legal. They are both now Canadian citizens and travel to Seattle three or four times a year to visit friends.

"Vancouver is not that much different from Seattle," MacDonald said. "I miss my mom in Massachusetts the same way I did when I lived in Seattle."

Lornet Turnbull: 206-464-2420 or lturnbull@seattletimes.com
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 04:23 PM
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1. self kick...n/t
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 04:26 PM
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2. K & R
Damn, I hadn't even thought of that hurdle.

Thank you, Madspirit for bringing this to my attention.

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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 04:28 PM
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3. I had not either
I didn't think of this either until about a month or so ago when I read my first story about it. Truly tragic.

Lee
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-25-07 04:35 PM
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4. I'll add it to my ever growing list...
Edited on Mon Jun-25-07 04:38 PM by Cerridwen
I started my list some years ago during the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" clusterfuck debate. My pain-in-the-backside brother called and asked me what the big deal was. I went down a list of things he and his girlfriend could do and say in their everyday life that would now be denied to people based solely on some asshole's fear of seeing two men kiss (yeah, I know it's more than that, but I'm trying to keep this short). After I ended my, then shorter, list - he actually got it. My brother may be a pitb, but he's not stupid.

I'll add this to my list for my refresher discussion with my brother. :sad smile smiley goes here:

edit: html tags work better when spelled correctly. lol
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 12:54 AM
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5. If straight, they could have gotten married; end of problem
Another situation showing how gay marriage is the only way to equality.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 01:41 AM
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6. This is so heartbreaking. n/t
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 02:06 AM
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7. Count me as one of those who gave up trying to live in my own country
And was forced to relocate to my partner's country a few years ago.

I guess if you're a rich gay person (I know a lot people believe all gay people are well off) you can start a business and hire lawyers and ultimately get your partner into the US somehow, but the rest of us on the low working-class end of the totem pole do not have those options, nor should we have to resort to any kind of trickery to bring our husbands or wives into the goddam collapsing empire of a country legally.

What is good enough for straight couples ought to be good enough for us.

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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 02:45 AM
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8. Just one other reason why the West End of Vancouver is the best place to live. n/t
Edited on Tue Jun-26-07 02:45 AM by gbrooks
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