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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 06:11 PM Original message |
Local guy arrested for trying to rescue his cats from part of burning building. |
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Brigid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
1. Just wait . . . |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 06:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I hope so |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 06:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Hopefully. But really the bigger question is why does a fireman have the authority |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 06:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Well, it goes like this... |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
4. article said he had an altercation with firefighters... |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
6. Fire fighters know |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
7. Zero tolerance? |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:22 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. If the firefighters are there he shouldn't go in... |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:48 PM Response to Reply #8 |
21. I didn't read but if it's his property there should be no reason for them to stop him |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:58 PM Response to Reply #21 |
32. Yes... |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 08:00 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. you were saying yes to they should physically prevent someone from committing suicide? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 08:09 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. Don't hospitals regularly prevent people from committing suicide? |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 08:14 PM Original message |
If they want to do it they should leave the hospital. I just can't see firefighters |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
44. Because most of the time suicidal people aren't competent... |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 09:12 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Why should there be a lot of effort expended to save insane people? |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 09:52 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Are you saying that insane people aren't worth the effort? |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 10:48 PM Response to Reply #50 |
60. I know this will piss you off royally but no, I don't think it is anybody's business to |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. I guess I'm stupid for thinking that a 19 year old with emtional problems is worth saving... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
46. IMO, the firefighters are responsible for the scene and have the expertise. |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 08:14 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. Absolutely... |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:48 PM Response to Reply #8 |
22. I see he got into some kind of altercation with the firemen |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:28 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Good question. There should be a "reverse good Samaritan" kind of law |
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annarbor (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:28 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Pets are considered personal property.... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
9. And had he made it in he would have endangered the firefighter's lives too. |
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Shakespeare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:30 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Exactly. |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:31 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. They should not be required to rescue a sentient human who deliberately puts |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:43 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Since the law is what it is rather than what you'd like it to be, they are obliged to |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. It isn't a law, it's a policy. Any fireman or cop who tried to stop me from attempting to rescue |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:50 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Sorry - this isn't about "the man". The firefighters have a job to do, and a deadly |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:55 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Yeah, I guess it would be way too complicated for them to ignore the guy |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:57 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. In fact, it would be. There's plenty going on in a fire without random people running |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:45 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. And if the firefighters had stood there while the guy died... |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:49 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. Nonsense. There is no "law" anywhere that requires them to risk their |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:56 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Even if there is no law, if the guy goes into the building, |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 08:06 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. They should not HAVE to go after him. |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 08:08 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Yes, they should have to go after him... |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:56 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Yes, there is... |
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mudesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 10:45 PM Response to Reply #13 |
59. Yes, they should be required |
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seriousstan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
14. He endangered the firemen's lives who would then be obligated to try to save his dumb ass. |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:41 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. The part of the large building he wanted to go into was NOT on fire. |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:47 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. And a fire...even if it's away from the business on fire... |
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annarbor (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:49 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. But... |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 08:04 PM Response to Reply #23 |
35. My point, and obviously it's too abstruse for some people to grasp, is that |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 08:08 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. I'd like to see the practical application of your idea. Let's say there's a city block |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 08:12 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. Tell that to the firefighters who died on 9/11 |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
18. No sympathy here. Shouldn't have been in a business that could catch fire. |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 08:12 PM Response to Reply #18 |
42. I just happened to see it on the local news. But I'll ask you this: |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 08:23 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Absolutely not. And that illustrates my point. In a fire, or any other tragedy |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 09:07 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. I'm not really mean, I just hold most people in lower regard than most other animals. |
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seriousstan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 09:57 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. You do have the ability, without hurting others, to eliminate one person of low regard. |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 10:00 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. I don't think trying to assassinate the president is a good idea. |
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seriousstan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 10:10 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. "without hurting others", or was that too abstruse for you? |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 10:31 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. No, I "got" it, I just figured an asinine comment deserved an asinine reply. |
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seriousstan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 10:34 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. No if it was personal I would catch you in your foolishness and make you buy me another star. |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 10:40 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Actually, I just did. |
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seriousstan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 10:45 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. And for that I thank you. |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 10:53 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. It's all good. I fight with my mom too but still love her. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
26. I'm with the firefighters on this one |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
27. I don't have a problem with this. |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 08:08 PM Response to Reply #27 |
38. yeah i agree with lizzy |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 08:26 PM Response to Reply #38 |
47. ditto |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
33. I bet the cats were copyrighted by the fire department. |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
57. It doesn't take long for a fire to spread |
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