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a kennedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:25 PM
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CABLE NEWS RATINGS

JUNE 25, 2007

FOXNEWS O'REILLY 2,748,000
FNC HANNITY/COLMES 1,741,000
FNC GRETA 1,738,000
FNC SHEP SMITH 1,580,000
FNC BRIT HUME 1,298,000
CNN LARRY KING 1,100,000
FNC CAVUTO 1,023,000
CNNHN NANCY GRACE 1,000,000
CNN DOBBS 764,000
CNN COOPER 755,000
CNN ZAHN 683,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 624,000
CNNHN GLENN BECK 511,000
MSNBC HARDBALL 397,000

Really depressing that faux has the top 5 shows. How stupid is america??? At least Keith beats the dip Beck. :puke:
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NCarolinawoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:30 PM
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1. Keith probably has the higher IQ crowd.
Edited on Tue Jun-26-07 09:32 PM by NCarolinawoman
Hannity and some others have :dunce:
:dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce: :dunce:
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:33 PM
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2. It's the same people who hang onto every move Paris Hilton makes.
People are just plain dumb.

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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:37 PM
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3. I still think it's because FOX is on in the background everywhere.
I think Keith's viewers actually choose to watch him, as opposed to those stuck in an airport bar, or in some waiting room, forced to watch FOX.

I remember as a kid the local easy listening station always won the ratings because it was on in every office.
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NCarolinawoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:43 PM
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6. Fox and Musac: good comparison. n/t
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FoxNewsSucks Donating Member (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 10:10 PM
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9. Head down to a pawn shop
for 50 cents or a dollar each, you can buy a remote for common brands of TV. Then, when you're somewhere you regularly go like a gym, use your remote to change the damn channel. If no one's looking, I use the menu function to delete Fox "News" out of that TV.

It really is just background to most people. Some will try to find it (and it's fun watching how long before they give up) but most people are just looking for any news channel, not specifically Fox. During commercials, I've changed it to MSNBC while people had been watching, and no one noticed that it was a different news channel when the commercials ended.

That's what the right wingnuttery counts on, people just looking for news will watch Fox and not realize they're still not getting actual news. That's why they use the tones of voice and terms they do when talking about Godly Republicans and filthy liberals. It gets those positive or negative contexts associated in the viewer's mind. It's probably even more influential and insidious than merely preaching to their base who will vote "R" anyway.








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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 10:39 PM
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12. Yep
I always ask to have it changed. If the TV is in reach, I do it myself. Especially when there's no one around and I know it's been on and giving them empty ratings for hours. But I will check out the electronics section when I go to a thrift store from now on.

Good tip! :thumbsup:
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:41 PM
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21. Ninja Remote: Tiny remote ready for secret missions
Ninja Remote
This little universal remote is the newest (secret) weapon in the Ninja's arsenal and we assure you in the right hands it can be used to quickly assassinate dangerously annoying TV shows. Simply point the Ninja Remote at the intended target (a television set) and press the mute button for a few seconds - once the TV mutes the remote is now ready to assume full control of its victim. Innocent bystanders will be frozen with fear (or very animated with anger) as the volume and channel change magically in front of their eyes, seemingly controlled by some mysterious force.

The Ninja Remote's powers will work on a wide variety of televisions (Sony, Panasonic, Samsung, Toshiba, Sanyo, Aiwa, Mitsubishi, Philips, JVC, Sharp, etc) and its small size will safeguard you against discovery.

* Tiny Universal remote, easy to operate
* Control volume, channel, mute, off/on
* Takes one CR2032 battery (included)
* Will work on most European TVs
* Keychain attachment
* Dimensions: 2.3" x 1.4" x .25" (5.8 x 3.6 x .6 cm)
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 10:23 PM
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10. A lot of carriers offer Fox as part of the standard package
that way waiting rooms for various places can place non-stop news with decent image quality cheaper. Murdoch foots the bill
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:22 PM
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19. Aren't ratings based on households with a box?
Edited on Tue Jun-26-07 11:22 PM by kgfnally
Are we talking about the Neilsens (sp?) here?

I don't much trust that system of ratings anymore. Too many people see shows online, or download them, or Tivo them. I've never once met anyone who has had a ratings box (or even kept a TV diary for the Neilsen ratings), so I'm not entirely certain how it works, but... it just seems such a ratings system's relevance is waning in the instant-access world we now live in.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:38 PM
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4. No big deal, look at how they rate for most watched.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:41 PM
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5. Good indicator
of just how far out into the right field weeds the U.S. has drifted. It's no wonder that almost nothing works anymore and the prospects of turning things around are dim.
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:45 PM
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7. Unfuckinbelievable
What the hell is wrong with people?
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Middle finga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 09:45 PM
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8. I think if you had 25-54 demo
the demo that really count when it comes to advertisers, Keith would be higher on the list because he has a higher percentage when you compare his 25-54 demo to his overall. OReilly has good numbers but 4/5 of his audience is senior citizens their outside of the demo that advertisers go after. I must admit though those rightwing gas bags have some loyal followers no matter how much you point out their lies.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 10:27 PM
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11. Well, that explains the mystery of GRACE, DOBBS, & BECK n/t
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fairplay Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 10:57 PM
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13. lou dobbs
I like Lou Dobbs.? Are you Neo- Liberal Democrats? I don't want to subsidize the elite in Mexico, who love their cheapo labor.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:45 PM
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22. Welcome to DU. But were you asking ME personally? The semi-plural construction of the question isn't
Edited on Tue Jun-26-07 11:50 PM by UTUSN
clear about that, and I certainly can't speak for anybody besides myself.

That said, DOBBS' populism, like O'LOOFAH's, has been much discussed here. His interpretation of the immigration situation is well known and you'll be glad to know you have plenty of adherents here. My post was aimed at MY puzzlement at why GRACE-DOBBS-BECK appear to get as much leeway from their employers as they do despite (MY INTERPRETATION) their various screw-ups. The answer is that, in the universe of miniscule ratings, they do better (as shown in the original post) than somebody else.

Here are some oft posted links on DOBBS:

*******QUOTE*******

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/30/business/30leonhardt.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&ref=media&pagewanted=all&oref=slogin

Truth, Fiction and Lou Dobbs


By DAVID LEONHARDT
Published: May 30, 2007
The whole controversy involving Lou Dobbs and leprosy started with a “60 Minutes” segment a few weeks ago.

... Over the last few years, Lou Dobbs has transformed himself into arguably this country’s foremost populist. It’s an odd role, given that he spent the 1980s and ’90s buttering up chief executives on CNN, but he’s now playing it very successfully. He has become a voice for the real economic anxiety felt by many Americans. ....

For one thing, Mr. Dobbs has a somewhat flexible relationship with reality. He has said, for example, that one-third of the inmates in the federal prison system are illegal immigrants. That’s wrong, too. According to the Justice Department, 6 percent of prisoners in this country are noncitizens (compared with 7 percent of the population). For a variety of reasons, the crime rate is actually lower among immigrants than natives.

Second, Mr. Dobbs really does give airtime to white supremacy sympathizers. Ms. Cosman, who is now deceased, was a lawyer and Renaissance studies scholar, never a medical doctor or a leprosy expert. She gave speeches in which she said that Mexican immigrants had a habit of molesting children. Back in their home villages, she would explain, rape was not as serious a crime as cow stealing. The Southern Poverty Law Center keeps a list of other such guests from “Lou Dobbs Tonight.”

Finally, Mr. Dobbs is fond of darkly hinting that this country is under attack. He suggested last week that the new immigration bill in Congress could be the first step toward a new nation — a “North American union” — that combines the United States, Canada and Mexico. On other occasions, his program has described a supposed Mexican plot to reclaim the Southwest. In one such report, one of his correspondents referred to a Utah visit by Vicente Fox, then Mexico’s president, as a “Mexican military incursion.”

When I asked Mr. Dobbs about this yesterday, he said, “You’ve raised this to a level that frankly I find offensive.”

The most common complaint about him, at least from other journalists, is that his program combines factual reporting with editorializing. But I think this misses the point. Americans, as a rule, are smart enough to handle a program that mixes opinion and facts. The problem with Mr. Dobbs is that he mixes opinion and untruths. He is the heir to the nativist tradition that has long used fiction and conspiracy theories as a weapon against the Irish, the Italians, the Chinese, the Jews and, now, the Mexicans. ....

E-mail: Leonhardt@nytimes.com


http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=589

Broken Record
Lou Dobbs' daily 'Broken Borders' CNN segment has focused on immigration for years.

But there's one issue Dobbs just won't take on.


By Heidi Beirich and Mark Potok

.... For more than two years now, Dobbs has served up a populist approach to immigration on nightly segments of his newscast entitled "Broken Borders." He has relentlessly covered the issue, although hardly from a traditional news perspective -- Dobbs favors clamping down on illegal immigration, and his "reporting" never fails to make that clear. He has covered the same issues, and the same anti-immigration leaders, time after time after time. In recent months, Dobbs has run countless upbeat reports on the "citizen border patrols" that have sprung up around the country since last April's Minuteman Project, a paramilitary effort to seal the Arizona border.

But there's one thing Lou Dobbs won't do. No matter what others report about the movement, Dobbs has failed to present mounting and persistent evidence of anti-Hispanic racism in anti-immigration groups and citizen border patrols. ....

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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 10:59 PM
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14. Link? (Please:)
greta & flare-nose nancy ahead of Keith? I don't think so.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:24 PM
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20. here's the source I use:
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/default.asp

yep looks like Fox is still on top. :(

But don't the big three networks still beat out all the cable shows in prime time?
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:05 PM
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15. When you get your info from Drudge or FR you should say so.
Is there any original source?
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:13 PM
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16. PROOF! that Kool-Aid is addictive
Jim Jones would do well on Faux News... true you know it.
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:19 PM
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17. Well everyone else is doing real news.
So they are all competing with one another. Fox is just doing Republican propaganda, and they are the only game in town for it. So naturally they look like a ratings leader. If Fox just reported the news as it actually is rather than spinning GOP fantasy fulfillment, Fox would be nothing.

But really, it is nothing. The people who watch Fox most likely have sub-average IQs by and large. The total IQ wattage of the FNC audience is actually below that of the other channels. You can't just go by eyeballs. FNC viewers are "Beavis and Butthead" level personages. You know, imbeciles.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-26-07 11:21 PM
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18. What that doesn't show is that O'Leilly's viewship has been dipping
Edited on Tue Jun-26-07 11:21 PM by SeattleGirl
and Olbermann's has been on the rise.
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