MSNBC 'Breaking News': CHENEY "deeply involved" in CIA leak case!!

[AzDar]

[Greeby]

1. This just in, water is wet nt

[Binka]

5. No Shit n/t

[ThoughtCriminal]

128. FOX: Some Democrats Claim water is wet

Up next: Our expert in Antarctica will prove that it is solid.

[smartvoter]

129. ROTF. nt

[Supersedeas]

131. Well done.

[EVDebs]

177. The Fish Is Red

The secret war R's have waged against anyone sane and logical in order to perpetuate a MI complex devoted to the destruction of the middle class.

[StudentDUer]

2. MSNBC BREAKING NEWS: WATER IS WET!!!!

[tridim]

4. I don't think a good chunk of America knows water is wet.

THEY DO NOW! :bounce: !!!

[StudentDUer]

9. Conyers and Leahy when will you start the hearings?

Because I need to know so that I can grab some popcorn.

[The Backlash Cometh]

101. Make sure you select a brand without transfat.

[Hobarticus]

71. Fox & Friends: Does wet water help the terrorists, and why does Pelosi like wet water?

Another case of liberal wet-water loving bias...

[jean]

150. and notice, Pelosi's state is in significant contact with wet water at all times

[AwakeAtLast]

172. There has been a republican led study group debunking that sham of a theory

;) ;) <nudge> <nudge>

[ellacott]

6. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t

[ms liberty]

11. Welcome to DU, Student DUer! n/t

[Kber]

Wet? Really? Gotta link for that wild assertion?

I mean I might go for "damp", but all the way wet? Statements like that are why people don't take us seriously. Be more careful in the future please.

(Sarcasm off now.)

[havocmom]

91. Best impression of the week!

:thumbsup:

[petgoat]

110. If water were wet, surely I would have heard about it on NPR.

Besides, not even Michael Moore will go that far.

And since you provide no expert testimony to that effect, I
must assume that all experts everywhere in the world are in
complete agreement that water is in fact NOT wet.

[maxrandb]

137. Rush: This drive by media claim that water is wet is exactly what I'm

talking about my friends. Their bias against dry water could easily be predicted, as I did so on my show last week. Cutting edge here folks." "Let's go to the phones, here's Chuck in Loma Linda"

Chuck: "You know Rush, I was a life-long wet water believer until I started listening to your show. Thank god we have you out there to provide a little balance. Mega Ditto's"

[Kikosexy2]

161. Well wet is ..

water....are dreams wet?...

[tanyev]

3. Oh, my stars! I need smelling salts!

[Philosoraptor]

10. I too feel a bit vaporish, fetch me my fan Beulah!

[Philosoraptor]

15. cheney is deeply involved in EVERYTHING.

[malaise]

122. Guess what DUers

I'm loving it.:toast: :toast: :popcorn: :popcorn: :rofl: :rofl:

Now where is that famous Bush quote where he said if any member of his cabinet was involved he would deal with it. The noose is tightening. Yipeeeeeeeeeee!!

[AzDar]

7. Per MSNBC: Cheney first to reveal Valerie Plame identity...

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

13. Is this an impeachable offense? n/t

[Nimrod2005]

27. Treason.....at time of war!

[truedelphi]

121. Yes, unless something in the newer versions of Patriot Act

and other "national security measures" allow for such a release to be retroactively all right.

Don't think anything does though - otehrwise why would the right wing media have spent months
spouting nonsense about Plame's intelligene status being common knowledge?

[tbyg52]

157. I maintain that it *cannot* be made retroactively all right

said the broken record.

Article I, Section 9
No bill of attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.

I know I'm not a lawyer, I know it has been previously applied to making things *illegal*, but I think the Founders would approve of applying it to the crap this administration has been pulling.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

176. yep. Ex post facto is your buzzword.

And "Bills of Attainder" are bills (proposed laws) with a particular person's name in them, that are designed to benefit only one person or group of named person.
Example: The crap Jebbie tried to pass to help Terri Schiavo's parents. Illegal and unconstitutional as hell, yet nobody mentioned that.

[cool user name]

166. You should ask the "hold investigations first" crowd ...

:eyes:

:P

[tbyg52]

178. I'll give them "investigations"

Just start pulling things out of the publicly available records. Don't investigate, just collate!

[cool user name]

183. I like dem apples ...

:hi:

[in_cog_ni_to]

22. HOLY CRAP! Isn't this TREASON???? n/t

[Hav]

43. .

Blowing a secret CIA operation which had the objective to counter potential terrorism against the US? During wartime?
So I guess if that is really true then Cheney = toast?

[LiberalEsto]

45. Maybe he'll shoot himself

acting as his own firing squad

[tridim]

77. Perhaps 'Shawshank Redemption' style? n/t

[JanusAscending]

136. Hey Hav!

Haven't you heard? We're not at War!! War was never declared!!! I'm being serious here! That lets * off the hook, right?

[mzmolly]

123. "They" claim that Bush declassified Plame's ID, so they are not guilty of a crime, no?

:shrug:

[lumberjack_jeff]

133. Bush gave Cheney proxy rights to declassify stuff.

If Cheney said: "I've posted photos and bomb plans on the DOD website" the fact that he did it made them declassified.

Oh, wait. They did, didn't they?

[mzmolly]

152. Indeed. But, it does give a glimpse into the mob like tactics of this "administration."

Gawd help us all.

[robertpaulsen]

135. Someone please post a link to this specific info. THIS IS TOO GOOD!

All those reich-wingers bellyaching about Armitage can go Cheney themselves!

[dogday]

143. Link provided

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16770023/

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

8. Really?

Who'd a thunk it? :sarcasm:

[Bunny]

12. Birds gotta fly, bees gotta sting, fish gotta swim,

Cheney gotta be deeply involved in CIA leak case.

[LiberalEsto]

14. Clearing the path for IMPEACHMENT!

Can you say: President Pelosi?

[Wizard777]

37. No I think she has some kind of deal with Hillary. That's why Pelosi won't impeach.

[aquart]

46. What a flaming heap o' doggie do.

[helderheid]

63. Agreed

[Wizard777]

134. Okay then Hillary won't mind being America's SECOND woman President.

Let the Impeachment begin! America's first Woman President Nancy Pelosi it is. Hillary can have the * First elected. ;)

[Matariki]

105. oh right - the evil Hillzilla. we almost forgot.

:eyes:

[Ladyhawk]

41. I would like to see that SO MUCH.

It is necessary to save the planet. Not only that, but I'd love to watch my family's heads explode. :evilgrin:

[helderheid]

62. why yes I can!

[Hawkowl]

146. HAHAHA!

Indeed clearing the path to impeachment. I'm beginning to believe that Pelosi is a grand master chess player and this mafioso administration is about to get rolled up. (Excitedly mangling my metaphors)

[cool user name]

167. No one is setting the table ...

Apparantly the only seasoning that I'm fond of is "off the table."

:eyes:

[democrank]

16. From MSNBC?

Really? You`re kidding me. Cheney was involved? Are they sure?

[bdamomma]

107. this media bush's propaganda media is reporting this ???

wow!!!!!!!!!!

[Canuckistanian]

174. I wouldn't have given this post any thought

Until I saw the MSNBC. The MS! The CM! or , as Rush calls it, the DBM.

[gemdem]

17. Shocked I am! Absolutely shocked!

He seems like such an honorable man. :sarcasm:

[NNN0LHI]

18. Fitzgerald is surging n/t

[Greeby]

19. Sarcasm aside, of course Cheney was involved

From what I've seen and deduced the last six years. Noone so much as farts in the White House without his say-so

[Canuckistanian]

175. Remember the newspaper article with Cheney's scratches all over it?

Will THAT ever be entered in as evidence?

[myrna minx]

20. Woot!

I can't believe that this is finally coming out!! :bounce:

[leveymg]

21. Believe it or not, this is the first most Americans have heard of this fact. Cheney's gone.

He'll have resigned before this trial is over.

[pnwmom]

28. That's probably why McCain was throwing him overboard recently.

In his comments about how Bush had been listening to his VP too much.

[leveymg]

54. My money's on McCain as the VP designate.

He'd get a majority in the Senate. But, I don't think he'd be confirmed in the House.

We might simply be without a VP for a while.

[eppur_se_muova]

69. Personally, I'd like for McCain to be the next Ford ... i.e. never elected.

Of course, he doesn't have to pardon anybody to get there.

[leveymg]

76. Neither McCain nor Lieberman would be confirmed in the House.

Damaged goods. Too much the Iraq(n) War enthusiasts.

Chuck Hagel, maybe. Maybe not, if he really is dirty in the ESS electronic voting scandal.

Maybe a nice, nobody hates her very much type - President Olympia Snow?

[wizstars]

181. ...and defeated for election on his own, too!!

:smoke:

...and he damnwell better not pardon these criminals

[eppur_se_muova]

182. That's what I'm hoping for! nt

[JanusAscending]

141. OH NO!!

The next VP will be LIEberman, he earned it!!! Rat Bastard that he is!

[goclark]

102. So Bush will throw Cheney to the curb

and install Mc Cain as VP?

[coalition_unwilling]

139. Or Kindasleezy Rice (thereby gaining him points in history books

for a two-fer: first woman and first black

[Nimrod2005]

29. Right on....

[Binka]

33. How Sweet The STOU Is Tonight

Dick is gonna be sweatin pure gin.

[aquart]

56. No. Not our Dickie.

He'll look us straight in the eye and go, "What treason? You're imagining things."

Can't wait to see what kind of support he gets, with dear George at 28.

Because the Republicans remember Nixon. Maybe. Maybe they can decide who Ford is. Then that ambitious man will have to decide if he wants to "heal the nation" or get elected.

That's too much for a Republican mind.

[H2O Man]

82. I agree.

The implications of Mr. Fitzgerald's opening statement are clear. What people have been discussing on DU for years, and which was either ignored or discounted by the corporate media, is now going to be told to the general public. Cheney can not easily remain in office.

[pa28]

169. Hopefully our leadership will call for his resignation. n/t

[H2O Man]

179. I found it interesting

that even a conservative journalist on MSNBC said that it seems Cheney might need to resign. I favor impeachment, and I do not think there is any question that he is the poster child for what the Founding Fathers had in mind for impeachment.

[BeHereNow]

170. Why is there nothing about this in the LBN forum????

I just checked LBN and not a single thread on this!
What's that about?
BHN

[Tin Man]

23. MSN headline is based on Fitz's opening statements - Fitz kicking ass!

Fitz is kicking ass and revealing names in the opening statements of the Libby trial! You absolutely gotta read the live blog description at firedoglake.

http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/23/libby-liveblog-fitzgeralds-opening-statement/#comments

[SCDem]

94. Thank you for the link

That was masterpiece theater and I love Fitz!

[Gman]

24. ...the Pope is Catholic

and German.

[rpgamerd00d]

30. And an ex-Nazi.

[Gman]

125. When he was forced at 14 years old and

got away from it the first chance he got.

[coalition_unwilling]

140. Read "Hitler's Willing Executioners" by Daniel Goldhagen for a good counter to

the "I was forced to join the Nazis" trope.

[Gman]

148. Doesn't matter

I have no desire to read someone's attempt to smear the Pope.

[coalition_unwilling]

156. Goldhagen is a sociologist at Harvard U. His book doesn't attempt

to "smear" anyone (although his book has the effect of smearing the German people pretty much in toto for their willing collaboration with the Nazis right up until the bitter end in 1945).

His book is certainly not an attempt to smear the Pope, as it came out long before the current Pope assumed the title.

But your post suggests that the Pope can do no wrong. That doctrine is called "papal infallibility" and I am unclear whether you subscribe to it. But if it were to come out some years from now that the current Pope had been a willing and even eager participant in the Hitler Youth and SS, would you still call any attempt to report it a "smear"?

[HappyWeasel]

127. Actually....THIS IS THE TRUTH ABOUT BENIDICT

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Palpatine

[AzDar]

25. I know it may not be news to everyone here....but even freepers (I don't THINK)

can ignore this..

[Matariki]

114. sadly, they seem to think it's okay to out a cia agent

as long as it's their crazy republican president doing it.

[treestar]

151. here is the freeper spin already

as usual, personal attack;




1 posted on 01/23/2007 10:46:46 AM PST by teddyballgame
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Fitzgerald should be on trial here, for defrauding the government with this bogus trumped-up prosecuton.



2 posted on 01/23/2007 10:48:56 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: teddyballgame
I am now totally convinced that Fitzgerald is a stark raving nuts paranoid schitzophrenic.

[D23MIURG23]

165. UHHHHHH

Reading that makes my head hurt. Fitzgerald a schizophrenic? Does that freeper even know what that is? I'll tell you one thing, someone who lives with thier mother into thier 30s and sends powder to journalists fits that diagnosis much more closely than a well organized and high power federal prosecutor.

:shrug: :spray:

[blogslut]

26. Read a live blog of the trial

@ Firedoglake
http://firedoglake.com/

It's hawt. :)

[Mandate My Ass]

31. I wish we had a "fainting" smilie

This is hugh!1!!

[AzDar]

35. And some people are sarcastic 'morans'.....Just sayin'.

[Lex]

32. Bush is looking up McCain's phone number right now.

Just in case he needs a new VP.


:shrug:

[peekaloo]

47. I'll bet both McCain and Lieberman are wrestlin' outside his door right now.

He'll pick me cuz I'm in his party *thud*

No he'll pick me cuz I'm an Independent *smack*

I'm a bigger ass-licker *throwdown*

No I'm a bigger ass-licker *stomp*

[symbolman]

155. LOL!!

I'm ON the FLOOR over here right now!

You're killing me with this, instant Theatre, and goddamn it I KNOW that's what is happening, and of course Gannon is WATCHING. he likes to watch :)

LOL, still LOL..

[w8liftinglady]

34. Actually-perfect revelation before the SOTU...

..slowly,eyes are opening...

[npincus]

36. Jonathan Alter said Cheney will go down in history as one of the worst

vice presidents, along with Spiro Agnew. His assessment had Ann Curry sputtering.

[acmavm]

38. Cheney IS the leak case. All roads, whether it be war or whatever

it is, leads back to Cheney.

He is/has openly committed treason a number of times.

But then again, so has his little stooge bush** if by nothing else than covering for him.

[Norquist Nemesis]

39. Well, duhhh! He was gotoguy for the strategery

with Iraq and everything that's come with it.

[CountAllVotes]

40. *shock*

NOT! :mad:

:dem: :kick:

[tridim]

42. A deeply involved Cheney will have to sit silent for an hour tonight..

On every television channel in the country, while every viewer now knows he's "deeply involved" in the CIA leak. Better recharge those batteries DICK, you're going to need them.

I predict we'll see some very telling facial expressions on the Dick's face tonight.

[mopinko]

48. i may watch with the sound off

i'm only suffering through it for those faces.

[originalpckelly]

52. Think about him sitting next to Nacy Pelosi!

:rofl:

This is going to be fucking wonderful!

[CountAllVotes]

70. Nancy Pelosi may be our next President!

:woohoo:

I'd LOVE to see it!

Go Nancy and buh bye Dick!

:kick:

[mopinko]

78. i'm hoping for a breakdown

it has to happen sooner or later. seems like this could be a trigger. no?

[mikelgb]

44. better late than never

[originalpckelly]

49. Firedoglake has live coverage!

http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/23/libby-liveblog-fitzgeralds-opening-statement/#comments

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

57. Just Got Done Reading It. Thanks To Several For The Link! It Is Fucking Amazing!

[hippiechick]

126. UGH! My company filter blocks blogs et al !!

:( CAN'T. READ. BUT. MUST. READ! :banghead:

[AlCzervik]

50. was the report based on the opening statements?

[AzDar]

58. Yes, it was. Campbell Brown is referring to them as 'astonishing revelations' about the V.P...

[AlCzervik]

59. oooooooooo! can't wait to watch the news tonight!

[tanyev]

64. I guess they would be astonishing to the spouse of a loyal GOP operative.

[Homer12]

51. Do you think Fitz struck a deal with Rove?

I mean if Chenney is up to his neck, Rove must have known as well.

In the end rethugs will eat their young to save themselves.

[leveymg]

65. I don't think Rove is really that important, anymore. The question is, did Dubya know?

And, was he part of the plot to out Plame. If that comes out during trial, we're looking at a solid case for impeachment. Even the GOP stalwarts will have to vote to remove the little booger. Of course, Dubya would have to resign.

Let's see, if a majority of the House and Senate can't both agree on a replacement for Dick, and Dubya leaves office, that makes Nancy Pelosi President.

[Tin Man]

75. I honestly think W didn't have knowledge - he's a figurehead for Cheney's shadow executive

...I really think it was all the VP's doings - he was pissed that Wilson was throwing water on Cheney's beautiful war.

Bush was likely off riding his bicycle or clearing brush...

[leveymg]

79. I can't see them doing this without mentioning it to Bush.

Maybe they didn't tell him the details, but just enough to cover their own asses.

I think on decisions at that level, they have to. They would have all been fired, long ago if this really was unauthorized by POTUS. Come to think of it, most of them have been except the group in Condi's protective orbit.

[bdamomma]

111. oh I am sure Bush is involved over this also.

one fast swoop of Fitz, hopefully will get Bush Cheney and Rove, or am I kidding myself.

[lovuian]

113. Remember guys and gals Bush said he would fire the

people involved and even when he knew he didn't fire Rove... this is Bush's mistake
Its the coverup that gets them everytime

[diane in sf]

120. I'm sure Bush was involved

he's a nasty, vengeful little piece of work. But Cheney was probably outing her to blow her network to conceal his trying to move fake WMD into Iraq.

[blogslut]

83. Libby's lawyer

is putting a bunch o blame on KKKarl himself. Check out the opening statement live blogging @ firedoglake:

http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/23/libby-liveblog-wells-opening-statement-part-one

Cheney made notes of what Libby said. Notes show Libby telling VP that he was not involved in leak. (oops, Wells, accidentally said, "not involved in leak to Karl Rove."

Cheney's note: "Not going to protect one staffer and sacrifice the guy that was asked to stick his neck in the meat grinder because of the incompetence of others."

The person who was to be protected was Karl Rove. Karl Rove was President Bush's right hand person. Karl Rove was the person most responsible for making sure Bush stayed in office. He had to be protected. The person who was to be sacrificed.

[leveymg]

90. Hmm. No quite sure what that means. Ideas?

[kestrel91316]

53. Treason in wartime is what I call that. A noose is too good for that SOB.

Time to break out the guillotine.

[BayCityProgressive]

74. send him to Iraq

they seem to know how to dispose of traitors lately...

[kestrel91316]

162. That's right. They know how to pop a head off by the, ahem,

alternate method.

[demnan]

55. A very merry Fitzmas everyone

God bless us everyone, we were right!

[tridim]

66. This is coming too fast.. Libby's team is throwing Rove under the bus!

http://www.firedoglake.com/2007/01/23/libby-liveblog-wells-opening-statement-part-one/#comments

This is stunning. It's a double-plus Fitzmas miracle!

[Tin Man]

87. A double Fitzmas miracle, indeed. This is gonna be GREAT !!!!

:popcorn:

[MelissaB]

89. Can you give us a snip? I'm blocked from FDL at work.

[blogslut]

96. Here's a snip

...from Libby's lawyer, Ted Wells' opening statement:

Cheney made notes of what Libby said. Notes show Libby telling VP that he was not involved in leak. (oops, Wells, accidentally said, "not involved in leak to Karl Rove."

Cheney's note: "Not going to protect one staffer and sacrifice the guy that was asked to stick his neck in the meat grinder because of the incompetence of others."

The person who was to be protected was Karl Rove. Karl Rove was President Bush's right hand person. Karl Rove was the person most responsible for making sure Bush stayed in office. He had to be protected. The person who was to be sacrificed.

11:56

The wheels on the bus go round and round, all over Karl. :)

[Canuckistanian]

173. You're blocked from FDL, but allowed here?

That is one F'ed up organization you work for.

[bobthedrummer]

60. He is a war criminal and profiteer, a lying traitor involved in a criminal conspiracy

which many of US have been aware of for quite awhile.

[lebkuchen]

61. Lovely.

Cheney gets his ass kicked out first, and Bush follows. Pelosi is Prez.

Lovely.

[AzDar]

67. I like the way you think! I think I will tune in to the SOTU address tonight,

just to watch the perspiration pool on the floor..:rofl:

[leveymg]

68. Ding-Ding! Beat me to it by a nanosecond.

Give this cookie a big cigar!

[DAMANgoldberg]

163. Not so fast...

As much as I would like that to happen, if it ever gets to that point, Cheney will "resign", the admin. will put their chosen candidate as VP (Lieberman, McCain, Rice, et al). Then when Bush is replaced, the first choice of the previous list will be President and the second choice will be Vice President for about 18 mos or so. Pelosi has essentially no shot to be President.

[spanone]

72. ANYONE following this story would have come to that conclusion YEARS AGO.

Welcome to the world MSNBC.

[spartan61]

73. I'm not going to get my hopes up this time.

Remember when Fitz gave his announcement after the Grand Jury and we were all so sure that Cheney would be implicated? All we got was Scooter Libby. I have been disappointed too many times by all of this so I will keep my expectations low so I won't be disappointed again. If it does turn out that it is proven that Cheney is guilty and is impeached, then there will be great cause to celebrate. I just can't go through any more roller coaster rides.

[tridim]

81. Why would you be disappointed? This is actually happening, live as we type

It's the real deal.

[bdamomma]

115. OMG, it's the real deal, I can't go on these roller coaster

rides of emotion either, I will just sit back and enjoy these thugs swirm.

[catmandu57]

85. Get your hopes up this is it

This is the real thing, by March you won't be able to find a koolaid drinker anywhere, dead eye is gone, then his stooge*, payback is a mfer.

[DemReadingDU]

80. watch this MSNBC video

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16770023


lots of damning evidence about Cheney


Prosecutor: Cheney deeply involved in CIA leak
Jan. 23: Prosecutors revealed that Vice President Cheney was much more deeply involved in the leak of CIA agent Valerie Wilson's identity than previously known. Hardball's David Shuster reports.
video is 5 minutes

[DemReadingDU]

104. There is a 2nd video

at the same MSNBC link with Jonathan Alter reporting

[AzDar]

84. MSNBC: Libby told Cheney he won't be a 'sacrificial lamb'....

[Just-plain-Kathy]

86. What's the punishment for teason?

[AllexxisF1]

88. ....

Teason?...nothing.

Treason, heheheh get a rope.

[leveymg]

93. A self-induced heart attack.

Black capsule, usually. It's the Ken Lay exit plan.

[bdamomma]

118. yea, cheney will meet up with Kenny Boy on his island somewhere

[Jack Rabbit]

92. Down with the Emperor and his crooked court!!

Portrait of King George from VoltaireNet.org

[in_cog_ni_to]

95. Did y'all READ THIS???

"You will not be asked whether the war in Iraq was a good thing or a bad thing. You will be asked whether the govt proved beyond reasonable doubt."

:wow:

[Kagemusha]

98. Whether the govt proved perjury/ obstruction.

It's live blogging, not a transcript...

[Tatiana]

97. Libby is gonna SING to avoid 30 years in prison!!!!!!

OK, now I really do think Cheney's gonna be indicted.

Happy Fitzmas, everybody!

[lovuian]

116. The Aspens are turning is right Libby knows these guys

would let him hang while they walked away with billions

I see a trip to Paraguay soon for Bush & Cheney

sipping on Magaritas with Billions

but we still can find those billions and we know where they are too

Good for Fitzgerald he was waiting for the democratic congress to get in and put a leash on Gonzales

The Aspens are turning is right

[havocmom]

99. So, will he be at the SOTU or is he blowin' town? (One way or the other)

Makes me a tad nervous that just about everybody will be in one place when Cheney is in this much trouble.

[halobeam]

124. yeah...

why is that little red flag waving the same "tad nervous" that yours is. I can't put my finger on it. What is it that you are a tad nervous about? I'm being serious, I can't exactly place what it is that is unsettling me. This all in all is of course, great news (understating a bit, I am) but what is it that is unsettling to you, maybe you can express it better than I.

[RestoreGore]

100. Impeach The Criminals! n/t

[Marie26]

103. Well, duh.

But I'm glad Fitz is finally exposing it.

[bdamomma]

106. wouldn't it be something if they arrested Cheney right before

or during the SOTU? I know I'm dreaming huh?

[deadparrot]

108. Of course, we all know this,

but the vast majority of Americans don't.

Therefore, this makes me happy. Let the Bush Administration's civil war begin.

[ooglymoogly]

109. time for the pardons to come tumbling down....kr nt

[lovuian]

119. The Democratic Congress will block those

under treasonous acts ya think Congress would let him get away with Pardons

[bdamomma]

112. this is just great, John Dean had said something a few weeks

ago, about impeaching bush, that this won't work, but to go after someone small (Libby) and watch it go up the ladder, John Dean what a smart and insightful man!!! he was right.

[seafan]

144. John Dean: "Refocusing the Impeachment Movement"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=3016754

[Matariki]

117. Now to get the general public to understand HOW and WHY this is TREASON

Why it's serious, beyond endangering a couple CIA agents - BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY WERE WORKING ON AT THE TIME.

[mvd]

130. I see a Cheney resignation coming soon

That will just be the start! :bounce: :bounce:

[Homer Wells]

132. 3:30 PM here in the East

and not a single peep from CNN regarding this.

The "most trusted name in NEWS", indeed
:wow: (NOT)

[DuaneBidoux]

138. Where is the link for this headline?

[seafan]

147. Prosecutor: Cheney 'Deeply Involved' In CIA Leak

As usual, Big Media is about 3 years late to this party....


Prosecutor: Cheney 'Deeply Involved' In CIA Leak

12:34 pm EST January 23, 2007

MSNBC reports the special prosecutor in Valerie Plame case says Vice President Dick Cheney was "deeply involved" in the CIA leak about Plame.
NBC's David Schuster says prosecutors believe "Cheney wrote out what (aid Scooter) Libby should say in a conversation with New York Times reporter Matt Cooper."
In that conversation between Libby, who was Cheney's chief of staff, and Cooper, Libby reportedly brought up Plame's name.

Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald used his opening statement in the CIA leak trial Tuesday to describe a tumultuous week early in the Iraq war, when he said the White House was "under direct attack" and pushed back against criticism by former ambassador Joseph Wilson, Plame's husband.
Fitzgerald said Cheney told Libby, in 2003 that Wilson's wife worked for the CIA and Libby spread that information to reporters. When that information got out, it triggered a federal investigation.
"But when the FBI and grand jury asked about what the defendant did," Fitzgerald said, "he made up a story."

I. Lewis Libby is charged with perjury and obstruction. He told investigators he was surprised to learn Wilson's wife's identity from NBC News reporter Tim Russert, not from the vice president. But Fitzgerald told jurors that was clearly a lie because Libby had already been discussing the matter inside and outside of the White House.

.....more

[SoCalDem]

142. Yep.. and all the news-chicklets seem sooo surprised.

They've got the vapors NOW. It's odd that WE knew this stuff BEFORE the '04 election, and the "SCN" (so-called news) people were out-of-the-loop or deliberately avoiding any bad press that might make Kerry president.

[BigBadJohnny]

145. Prescott Bush, Bush Family History -shocking!

If Americans knew the Bush family history, they would be shocked.
Here is a link:
http://www.xomba.com/bush_family_facts_you_may_be_shocked
BigBadJohnny
John Lake

[Rex]

149. Good! Best news I've heard in days!

I hope they get Cheney on all kinds of charges!

[Pharaoh]

153. AARRGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

This is the best thread ever!!!

[lala_rawraw]

154. Why is this news? We all know this

Good god... are they really this behind the curve?

[mmonk]

158. Yep.

They aren't like you. They show little interest in the truth.

[AzDar]

160. I fear they are. 'Willfully ignorant' is an appropriate phrase, I think.

The traitorous acts of the entire Administration have been so outrageous, it IS almost unbelievable when one thinks about it.
Maybe, just maybe, someone is finally going to stop them.

[symbolman]

159. For anyone who's watched my film "Rove's War"

where I spent a year on researching all this, and collected tons of footage, which I edited all down so that it would be more easily digested, you'll notice that I played up Cheney's ROLE VERY Heavily.

So much so that on many occasions I have the red rimmed EYE OF CHENEY filling the whole screen :)

Ask me anything :)

[in_cog_ni_to]

164. Great film! You should provide a link so people can buy a copy. Are you still selling

it?

[madrchsod]

168. well i`m glad they are right on top of that!

never to late to say you are sorry.....

[LibertyorDeath]

171. Mr. Fitzgerald's is Ruthless.... in a good way

Cheney is Fucked! IMO

He better Up his Nitro

[Catfight]

180. We on DU could have cracked this case two years ago. We know

the fact will come out that dumbya knew about the leak, okayed the leak and encouraged the leak as punishment when he was telling the press he will fire anyone associated with the leak in his administration. The real news about this outcome will be, will America uphold the death penalty for treason since this all happened during a war in Afghanistan?