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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 10:58 AM Original message |
Vaccine center issues warning on new cervical cancer vaccine Gardasil |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
1. What do we know about this Nat'l Vaccine Info Center? |
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iconoclastic cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 11:06 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Yeah, the BS detector is redlining. nt |
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sharp_stick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 11:40 AM Response to Reply #2 |
21. It should be red lining, this whole thing is crap |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
52. Yeah, especially since they don't even give numbers - how many "adverse reactions" have there been? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 02:28 PM Response to Reply #52 |
84. The NVIC reported numbers, they just weren't included |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 11:07 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I know internationally the vaccine has been regarded as totally safe |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 12:30 PM Response to Reply #3 |
34. Internationally, a drug called Thalidomide was once regarded as totally safe, |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #34 |
66. NEVER IN THE USA! |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 02:29 PM Response to Reply #66 |
85. Right. The few American victims got it in Canada or Europe. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 02:07 PM Response to Reply #34 |
70. The vaccine has undergone years of testing. NO WAY it suddenly |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 02:32 PM Response to Reply #70 |
87. No, it's the position of the American Academy of Pediatricians, |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:30 PM Response to Reply #87 |
107. Actually, that is incorrect. |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 11:09 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. I checked it out on Wiki and a few other sites |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 11:47 AM Response to Reply #1 |
23. The Wiki entry on them is flattering |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #23 |
37. This is exactly the sort of Article where Wiki is unreliable. |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:32 PM Response to Reply #23 |
54. They probably wrote their own wiki article. |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:30 PM Response to Reply #54 |
106. Not all articles are unreliable. But look at the History. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 04:02 PM Response to Reply #23 |
111. Are Vaccines Medical Genocide??? |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #111 |
113. HAHAHA!! Thanks! I'd like to tell the good doctor |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 06:20 PM Response to Reply #113 |
118. I remember polio |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 11:55 AM Response to Reply #1 |
26. It's a group that pushed for a safer pertussis vaccine |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-06-07 11:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
122. NVIC are the good guys |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
4. Note that this is from a (dubious) organization |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Here's their complete Press Release |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 11:17 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. NOTE: why the hell dont we wait for results instead of trusting govt and drug co. |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 11:29 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. I wonder... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 11:33 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. or drug co. and repugs will be thrilled dems will blindly embrace without |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-06-07 08:29 AM Response to Reply #15 |
121. I notice you didn't answer my question about riding in cars. (NT) |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 12:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
32. "Whackjobs" like the NVIC? Do you really know anything about them |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:31 PM Response to Reply #32 |
108. Uh-huh. |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 11:30 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. I haven't seen the actual legislation |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 11:49 AM Response to Reply #7 |
24. Ya know, I was a little kid when mandatory TB & Polio vaccines |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #24 |
68. I had polio when I was two and was one of the first groups |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:04 PM Response to Reply #68 |
99. Actually, we're closing in on eliminating Polio worldwide. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 12:09 PM Response to Reply #7 |
28. I completely agree. The finally stage of drug testing is not complete |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 02:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
71. Results of testing showed it was safe and effective. So the FDA |
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diamidue (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 02:22 PM Response to Reply #71 |
80. RW Propaganda? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:00 PM Response to Reply #80 |
98. That kind of logic kills me, and I see it so often. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 02:34 PM Response to Reply #71 |
88. The American Academy of Pediatrics is urging a "go slow" approach |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 02:51 PM Response to Reply #88 |
95. Smart. They've been burned before. |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 05:59 PM Response to Reply #95 |
115. The vaccine is improved and being used widely now |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 08:45 PM Response to Reply #115 |
120. True, but the FDA does have some disclaimers itself. |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 05:58 PM Response to Reply #88 |
114. Debunked. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 12:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
27. No, it was formed by people concerned about the risks of |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
8. I never trust anything like this that the |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 11:53 AM Response to Reply #8 |
25. I have a daughter and she is past the age ... |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 12:55 PM Response to Reply #25 |
41. When people took the swine flu shot quite a few died. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
29. So do I. Two days after I got my shot, there were several cases of |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
9. The Washington Times???? The Moonie Times???? Egads. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 11:27 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. just an egads!!! or a maybe we oughta make sure this vaccination is safe n/t |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 02:12 PM Response to Reply #9 |
73. Greetings from another long-time "fainter"!!! |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 02:21 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. God, isn't it awful??? I actually pass out when my son gets needles. -eom |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 02:27 PM Response to Reply #78 |
83. I managed to get over it enough to practice vet medicine, lol, |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 02:36 PM Response to Reply #83 |
89. One of my docs does something very effective, he has his nurse |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 06:35 PM Response to Reply #89 |
119. "...lightly scratch and pat my skin on the opposite arm...." |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
11. Considering how hard these fundie conservatives fought to keep this off the market |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
14. Not a credible organization, and not a credible newspaper. n/t |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 12:12 PM Response to Reply #14 |
30. It is a credible organization. Thanks to its efforts, we now |
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diamidue (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #14 |
63. Read what the Association of American Physicians & Surgeons |
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michaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
16. This vaccine has not been out long enough to know. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 11:34 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. well now you gotta. cause govt says so. and screw the repercussions to |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 11:36 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Not true at all. You can OPT OUT. Please don't spread disinformation. -eom |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 12:26 PM Response to Reply #16 |
33. You'd think some of these people have never heard of drug recalls. |
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demrabble (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
17. The Moonie Times |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:36 PM Response to Reply #17 |
56. Here are some facts from a non Moonie source. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 04:10 PM Response to Reply #56 |
112. for the love of mike, that's not "a source" |
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Vektor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
20. Yet no evidence of this in clinical trials? I don't buy it. If it were that common, |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 12:15 PM Response to Reply #20 |
31. Why do you think we hear about so many drug recalls, with all this |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-06-07 11:45 AM Response to Reply #31 |
123. Yep, our children are the unwitting test subjects |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 12:52 PM Response to Reply #20 |
38. Yup. What you said. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 02:36 PM Response to Reply #38 |
90. There haven't been any larger scale studies, according to |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #90 |
96. Why does it always come down to this? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #96 |
100. I didn't accuse anyone of being a Bush supporter. |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
22. Mostly pain and rash at injection site. Only multiple vaccinations |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
35. Why on earth would any DU'er trust Bush's FDA? |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 02:15 PM Response to Reply #35 |
74. I guarantee you most of the REAL SCIENTISTS at the FDA are not |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 02:38 PM Response to Reply #74 |
91. I guarantee you that the real scientists at the FDA |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
36. On the view Rosie Pointed out that Rick Perry's former |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
39. I wish you'd specified Washington Times in the title |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 02:41 PM Response to Reply #39 |
92. You could have read the same thing in many other sources. |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #92 |
116. Why are you spreading this disinformation? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
40. This topic brings out the kooks. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. No drug that has JUST been released can be regarded as completely safe. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:18 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Blah blah blah. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:37 PM Response to Reply #46 |
58. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. A broken clock... |
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diamidue (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
42. Will require 3 pregnancy tests |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
43. Question for the anti-cervical cancer vaccine folks: Are your kids vaccinated against Hepatitis B? |
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laundry_queen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:17 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Well, my kids don't have it. |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:21 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. I see you are in Canada. In the USA, all states besides S Dakota & Alabama require it. |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:23 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. I'm not anti vaccine...I'm anti forced anti vaccine for the profit of big |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:27 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. You know if it is not "mandatory", insurance cos & Medicaid will not pay for it. |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Bingo. And that's what I plan to do. But, the red tape will be heavy |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:35 PM Response to Reply #48 |
55. I see your point, but you can't leave children open to risk and exposure just to spite the pharms. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 02:47 PM Response to Reply #55 |
94. The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends that the vaccine |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:33 PM Response to Reply #94 |
109. Not true. They recently recommended that the vaccine be included in |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. You're right about the Hepatitis vaccine. But it was tested for years |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:32 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. I heard all the same objections (including the "it's too new") about HepB. |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #53 |
60. Not the same group here that you're talking to. My son was vaccinated |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Just curious - your doc advised you NOT to let your daughter be vaccinated? |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. My daughter is 17. Both her pediatrician and our family doctor have |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. So, your daughter can decide for herself next year? |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 02:11 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Ummm...the typical pediatrician (at least here in MI) sees children |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 02:20 PM Response to Reply #72 |
77. Here is why I even mentioned it.... |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 02:25 PM Response to Reply #77 |
82. Again, I disagree. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #53 |
62. Here's my historical rationality. |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. There will always be anecdotal stories of harm from everything. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 02:17 PM Response to Reply #67 |
75. That's a nice, compassionate response. |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 02:19 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Thank you. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 02:21 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. I think you meant to reply to someone else, Mrs. Grumpy. |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:21 PM Response to Reply #79 |
104. No. I meant to reply to you pnwmom. |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 02:24 PM Response to Reply #75 |
81. Sorry you feel slighted. I was trying to make this germaine to more than 1 person. |
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Katherine Brengle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
57. Big red flags. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #57 |
65. The Moonie Times wasn't the only one to publish this information. |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
86. judging from their website |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 02:45 PM Response to Reply #86 |
93. They don't oppose all vaccines, but they do support |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:20 PM Response to Reply #93 |
103. again, judging from their website, |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
97. I live in Texas and my Daughter is the age required |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:15 PM Response to Reply #97 |
101. And the American Academy of Pediatrics agrees with you, |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 06:02 PM Response to Reply #101 |
117. NO THEY DO NOT! |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:20 PM Response to Reply #97 |
102. that is how i feel dogday. and to have people on here suggesting you arent parent |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:26 PM Response to Reply #102 |
105. and don't forget...it makes you an idiot too...when you vote wrong |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-05-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #105 |
110. lol lol |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-06-07 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
124. Whether the vaccine is Safe, or Not Safe isn't the point, |
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125. PLEASE READ THIS POST IF YOU ARE AT ALL INFORMED ON THIS! |
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