Hillary is classic Hermione, Bill is Harry, Chelsea is young Lily.

[pnwmom]

Cheney is Voldemort :evilfrown:,

which means W. is . . .

:evilgrin:

Wormtail!

Any other nominations?

[HereSince1628]

1. That's as nutty as squirrel poo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Which may have been the best line of the whole book!

[pnwmom]

2. Thank you hilly much!

I agree about that line, by the way.

[ORDagnabbit]

3. I dont believe Hermione would have voted for the war. n/t

[pnwmom]

5. I don't believe Hillary voted for the war.

With the compromise IWR, she actually voted to limit Bush's options, because the alternative bill the Republicans had proposed was even worse.

In October 2002 she voted for the compromise IWR that gave Bush authority to act in Iraq, and only in Iraq, IF Hussein failed to allow the weapons inspectors in. Bush then ignored the conditions. When Hillary and some other Democrats voted for this compromise IWR, they knew it was highly probable that the Repubs would be taking over Congress in January. If the compromise IWR wasn't passed in October, Bush's preferred version -- which Chuck Hagel says would have allowed Bush to attack Iran and anywhere else in the world! -- would have passed in January.

Bush would have been able to have his war in Iraq regardless of what the Democrats did in October. The Dems who helped to pass a compromise bill did so because the alternative bill would have been even worse.

[Marr]

31. I can't believe anyone buys that.

Seriously, it just amazes me. You've got to jump through some serious hypothetical hoops to make Hillary Clinton look like a populist.

[pnwmom]

41. What does that vote have to do with being a populist? Or not?

Voting for the compromise IWR instead of the worse Republican version is typical of the choices politicians are forced to make every day.

But it has nothing to do with being a populist.

[Marr]

43. Populist, as opposed to corporate servant.

Her vote for the IWR was a combination of cowardly political maneuvering and pandering to corporate America, which was just champing at the bit for the invasion and all the money it would bring. She was putting her career and her funding ahead of the public interest, and certainly ahead of morality.

Everyone knew exactly what was going on when that vote passed- and it certainly wasn't about *avoiding* war.

[pnwmom]

49. Spoken like another Naderite.

The group that helped hand the country over to 8 years of Bush.

You don't know anything about Hillary's motivations. But it is a fact that at the time she voted for the compromise IWR, the other version proposed by Bush was sitting in the hopper. And the Repub Congress would have been happy to pass it for him in January.

[Marr]

51. Spoken like a true DLCer.

I'm not a Naderite, thank you. But for the record, it was the DLC's Republican-lite attitude that handed the country to Bush-- and it was their triangulating "go along to get along" approach that allowed him to have everything he wanted without a struggle. The IWR is just one example.

I don't buy that weak excuse for the IWR for one second.

[pnwmom]

52. The majority of Americans voted for Gore in 2000,

and almost certainly -- if the votes had been counted -- for Kerry in 2000.

The DLC didn't have anything to do with Bush's ascension.

For that, we have to thank Katherine Harris and Nader (who drew away 97,000 gullible voters in Florida -- where the final margin was less than 600) in 2000, and Ken Blackwell and his thugs in 2004.

[Forkboy]

4. If you think I'm going to read seven novels to understand this thread you're crazy!

;)

[pnwmom]

6. Sorry, Forkboy, this is only for the kids among us. n/t

[Forkboy]

10. I have a Godzilla avatar.

What,am I too mature?

:)

[pnwmom]

16. Maybe you're at that in-between stage.

Too old too appreciate Harry Potter, until you're finally young enough again.

;)

[Forkboy]

32. Actually I think the books and movies look good.

But I do admit that I have an aversion to fantasy stories,or even sci-fi that's so far in the future it might as well be fantasy.I'm not sure why,but I've no doubt it makes me miss out on some good fiction.I still haven't watched Lord of the Rings yet either,making me one of only seven people worldwide that's able to claim that. :)

I'm working on a fantasy book now,George R.R. Martin's Game of Thrones,and it's giving me some trouble because of the fantasy aspects,but the writing is excellent,so maybe this one will open me up to more of the genre and help me to appreciate it more.

I have watched parts of the first movie to see Robbie Coltrane though (one of my all time faves from Blackadder,The Young Ones,and the BBC series Cracker).It looked like a fun movie,and I would have watched more but I had to leave.

And just to be clear,I'm in no way knocking anyone who does enjoy this stuff,and hope my first post didn't come across that way.If so,my apologies.

[pnwmom]

42. No worries, Forkboy,

I got your humor. And appreciated it.

I don't know if you have a philosophical bent at all, but my favorite fantasy series -- among my favorite books period -- is the trilogy called "His Dark Materials" by Philip Pullman. The first, The Golden Compass, is coming out in a movie in December and I can't wait.

[LWolf]

7. Sure.

Harry is Dennis Kucinich.

Ron is Garrison Keillor.

Hermoine is Medea Benjamin

Rita Skeeter is Ann Coulter

Umbridge: Rod Paige. Or, perhaps, Barbara Bush.

Pelosi: Fudge

Scrimgeour: Hillary

Percy: Obama

Hagrid: Gravel

Wormtail: GWB

Voldemort: 8 monolithic mega corporations, one for each bit of his soul

[Hell Hath No Fury]

8. You've got it!

MUCH better! :D

[pnwmom]

11. Why is it so hard to resist taking potshots at other Dems? n/t

[LWolf]

21. I don't know.

I didn't take any potshots; the dems in my list are not deatheaters. :shrug:

[pnwmom]

29. Uh-huh. That's called "damning with faint praise."

And it's still damning.

[LWolf]

33. I don't see it that way, obviously.

Harry is a misrepresented, isolated hero who works for people, not power.

Ron is loyal, brave, lovable, and comforting in his normalcy.

Hermoine is a rabble-rousing protester, and she's willing to buck tradition to fight for her cause. SPEW.

I think I did pretty well there, frankly.

Fudge is a politician who thinks he can maintain the status quo by "ignoring" the issues of the day.

Percy is too enamored of the system, and parrots too much propaganda, but still fights for the right side.

Scrimgour is smart and brave, and likes to keep conflict hidden under a surface veneer of normalcy.

Hagrid is lovable, incorruptible, and obviously walks to the beat of a different drummer.

I think I did pretty well there, too.

I really don't see any "damning" going on. :wtf:

[pnwmom]

44. Ahem. I was referring to you other comment.

About none of the Dems being death-eaters.

That sounds like extremely faint praise to me.

[LWolf]

48. Oh.

Well, they aren't "bad guys" either. Is there a level of praise required when comparing them to fictional characters?

[RedCappedBandit]

27. LOL, Nice.

Rita Skeeter : Ann Coulter.. I love it.

[Bitwit1234]

9. Bill Clinton quess what I was flipping channels

and lo and behold I caught Rachel Ray's talk show just as she was about to introduce da da da da BILL CLINTON. And she said President Bill Clinton. Would it were so......................

Guess I will continue to watch her on Food Network...I can't stand Emril after I found out he was a good buddy of Rush Limbaugh. A person who is republican or democratic can be friends with a person of the other party. But anybody - no matter - who he is -- if he is a buddy of that racist, hate spewing blow hard does not deserve even being seen on my TV.

[beastieboy]

12. John Kerry is Neville Longbottom

[pnwmom]

17. Good one. I can see that. n/t

[beastieboy]

13. Dennis Kucinich is Luna Lovegood

[pnwmom]

18. Great choice. She's a sweetheart, and very intelligent

but not very practical.

[LittleClarkie]

14. Who should be moaning Mabel?

?

[pnwmom]

19. Laura?

She can't be wearing that plastic smile ALL the time.

[monmouth]

22. Judy Giuliani???

[pnwmom]

24. Fred Thompson's wife has supposedly been making herself heard a lot

lately, too.

There are probably a number of good possibilities on that side of the aisle.

[RedCappedBandit]

15. I don't see it..

[pnwmom]

20. Maybe that cap is getting in your eyes? n/t

[RedCappedBandit]

25. Possible.. I just see hermione as more of a...

hm.. I dunno. I just don't see Hermione in hillary. :shrug:

[pnwmom]

28. Two goody-goody, bookish, loyal, smart girls.

I found those letters of Hillary's (from her college days) that were printed in the NYT this week to be very interesting.

Funny, self-deprecating, intelligent -- a person I would have enjoyed knowing.

[RedCappedBandit]

30. I don't think Hermione would be ..

so "in the pocket" of corporations like your general politician, I guess. But I know your thread wasn't about my opinion on Hillary. so i'll just shut up. :hi:




I missed those articles btw, did you happen to have a link handy? That'd be a pretty interesting read.

[pnwmom]

40. Of course Hermione

is only 17 at the end of the books, so it is hard to know exactly what she'd be capable of as an adult.

As for Hillary, I'm happy to provide you with the link. Here 'tis.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/29/us/politics/29letter.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

[HuffleClaw]

23. Hillary is Luna !

[pnwmom]

26. To me, Hillary seems much more earthbound and by-the-book than

dreamy Luna.

What did you have in mind?

[HuffleClaw]

34. i could have said umbridge!

but i thought luna was funnier

[kwyjibo]

35. Harriet Miers = Dolores Umbridge

[pnwmom]

45. I like that one!

[annarbor]

36. "Not my country you Bitch!"

I hope you all read book seven, othewise that comment will be lost on most....

Ann Arbor

[Batgirl]

37. Ann Coulter is Bellatrix Lestrange

what with her fanatical devotion to Dark Lord Cheney, a devotion which has sometimes seemed to border on the creepily sexual:

""Cheney is my ideal man. Because he's solid. He's funny. He's very handsome. He was a football player. People don't think about him as the glamour type because he's a serious person, he wears glasses, he's lost his hair. But he's a very handsome man. And you cannot imagine him losing his temper, which I find extremely sexy. Men who get upset and lose their tempers and claim to be sensitive males: talk about girly boys. No, there's a reason hurricanes are named after women and homosexual men, it's one of our little methods of social control. We're supposed to fly off the handle."

Tucker Carlson = Professor Lockhart. His evilness seems to lack an edge -- but he's got the hair and if Lockhart were a professional rightwing pundit I think he'd definitely be rockin' the bowtie.

I doubt anyone can be designated as the Harry character although we could sure as hell use one.
Even a Dobby-the-house-elf would be welcome.

I guess it's common for people to long for a savior type during exceptionally troubled times. Apparently that's why the character of Superman, and a host of other superheroes, became so popular during the years prior to WWII. (Yep, I recently finished "The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & Clay.")

Could be a similar dynamic underlying some of Harry Potter's appeal.

[pnwmom]

47. Considering that Rowling conceived and outlined the whole thing

ten or twelve years ago, it seems amazingly topical to me.

That Coulter quote you provided is making me nauseous. But it certainly explains a lot. Cheney/Coulter: what a creepy combination!

[MrSlayer]

38. Lieberman is Lucious Malfoy.

Wes Clark is Kingsley Shacklebolt.

[fishwax]

50. I think Lieberman is more like pettigrew

though he probably sees himself as Severus Snape :eyes:

[KiraBS]

39. Eww no (Spoilers here)

Harry and Ginny get married remember, so Bill and Chelsea Clinton can not be
Harry and Ginny. I think the Clintons would be Ravenclaws, especially Chelsea.

Al Gore is Harry, brave and fighting for the world, Elizabeth Edwards maybe Hermione who
wants to make a difference and John Edward is Ron, who is not as brilliant as Clinton or as popular as Gore among people here but he wants to fight so he can help his country and wants to defeat the evil shadow over America.

Pettigrew - John McCain or Joe Liebermann

The Bush Family are the Malfoy's and the Black's, pure blood matters, even if it makes them insane: Dubya is Draco all show and no guts surrounded by thugs and Laura Bush is Pansy Parkinson who idealises him. And is blind to the wrong he has done.

[pnwmom]

46. No, I said Chelsea was young Lily. (Another spoiler follows)

Remember Harry's daughter at the end?

I like Laura as Pansy Parkinson, so maybe Dubya is Draco. Draco? Wormtail? A tough choice.