Getting Cheney on the Stand will be a fishing expedition for Perjury

[JCMach1]

I have thought this all along. It is an open and shut case if Fitzgerald plays the trap in the right way.




This is BIG news!

What do you think?

ON EDIT: I should have said 'duck hunt'

[tridim]

1. I think BushCo let this thing get out of control

There's nothing they can do to stop it now.

The snowball is still rolling down the hill, and it's about 1000 feet in diameter already.

[JCMach1]

5. Can Cheney 'get out' of a subpoena?

-Executive privilege?
-National Security?

And then what?

[Frustratedlady]

8. And then the public outcry will be so loud, they won't be able to shut it up.

They can only pull the wool over our eyes so many times before we catch on. I think we caught on several years ago, but we have been waiting for the wheels of justice to work as it should. Go, Fitz!

[DoYouEverWonder]

12. It will be much harder for him

since he's already said publicly that he would testify.

[Wizard777]

14. I don't think so. Remember Ken Starr? Have those documents in my office on mon. or be in jail tue.

[RaleighNCDUer]

24. A well-timed international crisis, like an Iranian missile attack on

a US carrier, would give him an out.

[Botany]

2. Cheney has 2 choices

Come clean and admit that they went after Wilson / Plame for political reasons
(outing a C.I.A. agent is a big time crime).

Lie his ass off and face perjury charges.

Fitz went after the mob in NYC and started with a few indictments and wound up with
about 100.

[EstimatedProphet]

3. Didn't you hear? Cheney won't go

He said before the election that if he were called in investigations, he'd probably just not go.

Apparently the Vice President is able to turn down legal summons at will.

[JCMach1]

9. Hatch would vote to impeach then.... LOL

"The only person who can really answer the questions is the president. And he has an obligation to do that," Hatch said. "And I think he will, if push comes to shove."

But Hatch said if Clinton were to fight the subpoena to the U.S. Supreme Court, ultimately lose and then still refuse to testify, it would create a "constitutional crisis" that could lead to impeachment.

"I think the fact that he would ignore and violate a subpoena would certainly be grounds to file articles of impeachment," Hatch said. "If Kenneth Starr does have additional information, I think it could snowball into a real impeachment problem for the president. I personally hope that doesn't happen."... http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/07/26/clinton.subpoena.02/

[Kolesar]

20. Cheney will just borrow some Putey-poison and kill one of our senators

"What Democratic majority? The governor of Nebraska just appointed a republican to the Senate."

[coalition_unwilling]

16. That's why you need to send a posse of federal marshalls

to roust his ass out of the Naval Observatory and drag him to the court in chains.

[Wizard777]

17. No this is a court subpeona not Congressional. Yes Congress can Compell his attendence.

They'll send a Federal Marshal to bring him in in cuffs if need be!

[JCMach1]

19. Jones vs. Clinton...

the Supremes ruled on that case... Clinton testified...

[Wizard777]

22. I still can't understand the 9/11 commissions accepting their silly assertion about the oath.

[EstimatedProphet]

27. You need to tell him that though

[Benhurst]

23. The Supreme Court did not let Clinton off the hook with Paula Jones'

civil suit and made him, as a sitting president, testify.

Of course the Supreme Court is corrupt as hell, but it still might force Cheney to testify.

If it doesn't, it will be an obvious the fix is in.

[Connie_Corleone]

4. All of a sudden, the movie A Few Good Men comes to mind.

[watrwefitinfor]

6. Unless he takes the 5th. LOL

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

at the very thought of it!

Wat

[soothsayer]

7. I really hope this will amount to something, and not just fizzle away

[Uben]

10. I don't think so

I think Fitzgerald has specific questions for Cheney to answer. As long as he answers them as Fitzgerald suspects, he will walk. But, if CHeney gets the bighead and thinks he can lie to Fitzgerald, he could hang himself. I really don't see that happening. Fitz has had a long time to prepare his questioning and wording. He is building a case against Libby, not Cheney, so I don't see him laying traps, rather painting a picture of events as they occurred.

[Quixote1818]

15. I think Fitz decided to go after just one at a time. More indictments may come

after this case is over, then Cheney and others will be boxed in by the answers they gave in this case.

Fitz is brilliant.

[JCMach1]

18. He has a Win/Win for himself

He doesn't look like an idiot if he prosecuted Cheney and didn't get a conviction.

Perjury is much more cut and dry... that is how he will do it...

Worse case scenario, you at least got Scooter.

[RaleighNCDUer]

25. "...I don't see him laying traps..."

A good prosecutor, and he definitely is one, will not let his case be undercut by a lying witness. He will not ask Cheney any questions without knowing exactly what the correct answer is, and if he gets anything but the correct answer he'll be able to impeach Cheney's testimony with other, corroborating evidence, thus getting Cheney on perjury. It's not a matter of setting traps. It's a matter of seeing if Cheney is arrogant enought to attempt to lie.

[madrchsod]

11. i followed his trial of the trial of george ryan here in illinois.

ryan was methodically chased down by fitzgerald and convicted. he was never charged with any monetary gain, he was convicted on the concept of a climate of corruption. i think over 50 people were tried and convicted during the investigation.

[JCMach1]

13. Jones vs. Clinton may come back to haunt the Repugs!

http://www.lectlaw.com/files/cas97.htm

[nashville_brook]

21. Cheney's testimony: "you want the TRUTH? you can't handle the TRUTH!"

[Bobbie Jo]

26. I think he'll take the 5th

I have no doubt that sneer and his gang have been prepared for this for quite some time.