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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 07:56 PM
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Local radio wingnut talkshow host spells out blueprint for trashing HRC
Edited on Tue Jan-23-07 08:12 PM by UTUSN
The wingnut ended one e-mail, gratuitously: "I wonder whether Hillary will be able to avoid hard questions during the campaign the way she has as senator?"

I replied:

Well, she can always use Shrub as a model, since HE got off Scot free throughout Campaign 2000 with his "Don't-mess-with-Texas" ploy, portraying himself as a SUCCESSFUL governor, while he was actually in a weak-governor system and his only "achievements" were his sweatheart deals for cronies and giving free rein to his polluting robber baron buds. You know, WRECKING California through his buds, arranging for the Arlington land deal and all.

Not even Molly IVINS could get the national media to examine his record. And he KNOWS how to "mess" with a governor-candidate's record, since he and ATWATER did their number on poor, pathetic DUKAKIS, both with DUKAKIS's achievements AND the Willie HORTON swiftbotting.

So his reply, a blueprint for the hammering of HRC:

*********QUOTE********

My take on Sen. Clinton is someone who wants to reign or rule and not govern. If Bush is that way, she is the female doppelganger (I hope that is the right use; I’ve always wanted to use it). She cannot abide being questioned because she knows best and can’t be bothered with the petty concerns of the muchadumbre. It is an aspect of her modern Social Gospel Methodism.

As for Bush not being investigated, why is that my problem to respond to? I kept waiting for the Rangers land deal because it is Achilles heel for some business conservatives, the use of government power for private gain. I don’t like it but I pick my battles, what few I fight.

Managing the message is just what politicians do.

Remember the FBI files, full of raw data that two flunkies showed up with? And that NO ONE in authority was ever held accountable for all that raw info floating around? Files received from the FBI on the request of some flunkies? You don’t believe that and neither do I. She or he or someone at their level did that deal and those two flunkies took the fall.

Finally, I’m a firm believer that iron sharpens iron, to quote the Bible. Bush as done himself NO favor avoiding contrary opinions and even antagonistic points of view and that is one of the things he is paying for now. So you should be in favor of all pols answering the questions and not erecting a wall between himself and the press.

********************UNQUOTE**********

Then later, there was Dick-"Toesucker"-MORRIS on the HANNITY freak show, detailing his latest parasitical money-grubbing scam he is running on the CLINTONs, making a "Michael MOORE type movie" targeting HRC for the coming primaries: That the movie will consist of clips of her "in various tones of voice, in different words catering to different groups, in different hair-do(s)--the only thing everything will have in common is that it is all lies." That he will deliver opening night speeches in the theaters the flick shows at. HANNITY promptly offered to make appearances at all of those openings. One of Toesucker's examples was that HRC is supposedly a profound believer of religious principles and therefore doesn't allow questioning of her positions or motives. Toesucker then did a RUMSFELD self-questioning, "Isn't this like (Shrub)?" His self-answer was that the difference was that HRC is "RUTHLESS" and Shrub is NOT!!1

Notice the similarity of the radio wingnut's drawing the SAME parallels between HRC and Shrub, yet, when it's about Shrub it goes by fleetingly and without consequence, but when it's about HRC it is a PROFOUND history-trashing character defect.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 08:03 PM
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1. K & R. I wish I could bookmark to folders because this would go "talking points".
This is as Rovian a tactic as I've ever seen. Offering up a way to shrug off Bush as one accuses HRC of the exact things he did.

MKJ
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:00 PM
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2. My e-ltr to the local radio talkshow wingnut, my pet wingnut/whipping-boy
The basic theme that both you and Dick "Toesucker" MORRIS set overall is to point out traits in HRC that you label as being historically horrific, yet you immediately note that Shrub has exhibited the SAME traits, AND YET you somehow dismiss the negativity with regards to Shrub.

#1: "someone who wants to reign" - both HRC (supposedly) and Shrub.

#2: "cannot abide being questioned" - both HRC and Shrub.

#3: "Social Gospel" - both HRC and (supposedly) Shrub.

#4: "Managing the message is just what politicians do" - both, and everybody else.


As for your own mea non-culpas ------ "Bush not being investigated, why is that my problem" ----- this is your usual hedging. Not that I expect YOU to do the investigating, you are ONLY a reporter and media professional. Why, if you got into some IMPORTANT original reporting with stories LOCALLY AVAILABLE TO YOU, you might even get national exposure, and we wouldn't want THAT, now would we!! (HEAVY SARCASM) But seriously, when you are throwing out judgments about OTHER people, why shouldn't your inconsistency vis a vis YOUR man be an issue?

Mea culpa #2: ---- "I pick my battles" ------ Which would THOSE be? You were waiting for WHO to bring up the Arlington story? As I recall a few months ago, you hadn't even heard of it, like you hadn't heard of the PNAC/NeoCons back then when I gave you the links and info. So, you wanted SOMEBODY ELSE to investigate the Arlington/TX Rangers deal, and THEN what? You would watch the dirty details unfold like an HBO mini-series? For your entertainment, YOU as SPECTATOR? Or what?

Your mea culpa #3: --------- "you should be in favor of all pols answering" - I fail to "get" this bit of preaching against ME. I simply pointed out your inconsistency in shafting HRC about not facing the questions and IGNORING Shrub's doing the same and worse. I would DEARLY love for Shrub to face some tough questions without his shoulder-shrugging, "joking" and evading, and arrogant dismissals. What does your point have to do with ME???

Below your quoted message is my summary of Dick "Toesucker" MORRIS on the HANNITY freak show from this afternoon, basically following your same technique regarding HRC. She and OBAMA must really SCARE you guys. Hmmmmm.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 09:51 AM
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3. The wingnut replied: "I have been saying she's messianic for years" n/t
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