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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 08:27 AM Original message |
Tasers=Torture |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
1. What would you propose as an alternative? |
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reality based (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 08:32 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. You mean "deadly force" was an alternative for that student in Florida that was |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 08:36 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. What would you have had the police do? |
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reality based (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 08:44 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. I will answer after you answer the first question. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 08:57 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. I think the student did nothing wrong and should have been left alone |
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reality based (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:30 AM Response to Reply #17 |
69. I'm still thinking about the premise that a taser is to be used as an alternative to deadly |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #69 |
107. Apparently he thinks that guns are a better solution |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 11:58 AM Response to Reply #8 |
94. Grab the guy and drag him off the premises |
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mark414 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:52 PM Response to Reply #8 |
129. they had the situation under control |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
132. #1. the asshole was ranting not asking questions #2. Kerry tried to answer #3. the asshole |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 08:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. That is NOT, NOT, NOT the purpose of a taser. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 08:35 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Why don't you answer my question? |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 08:50 AM Response to Reply #6 |
14. What is the purpose of a taser? nt |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:03 AM Response to Reply #14 |
22. The purpose of a taser is to bring an evidently violent person under control |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:05 AM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Well if you gave that idiot enough time |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:12 AM Response to Reply #28 |
43. Torture for safety |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:13 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Your attempt at cop-bashing falls short of a tour de force |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:15 AM Response to Reply #46 |
51. I couldn't care less how impressed you are |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:16 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Another appeal to isness |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:18 AM Response to Reply #53 |
57. I gave you some avenues of research |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:21 AM Response to Reply #57 |
60. All you've given is your poorly supported opinions and vague generalizations |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:17 AM Response to Reply #43 |
54. He chose to be tased |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:19 AM Response to Reply #54 |
58. Thank you for insulting me. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:22 AM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Apologizing for the snark |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 10:24 AM Response to Reply #62 |
81. I understand your point |
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mark414 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #28 |
128. he had 5 cops on top of him pinning him down! |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 02:22 PM Response to Reply #28 |
136. That guy was not going to hurt anyone. He might have been an idiot, but not a dangerous idiot. |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #6 |
86. Why didn't the cops use cattle prods before? |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 08:39 AM Response to Reply #1 |
9. Did cops get their job done before tasers? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 08:42 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Yes, they also used batons, billies, saps, fists, boots, etc. |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 10:14 AM Response to Reply #10 |
76. I have my grandfather's billie club.. |
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Netbeavis (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 08:59 AM Response to Reply #9 |
18. they also hit people with batons and used mace |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:04 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. And some people who were taserd fucking died. nt |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:06 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. As have some people who have been beaten or unlawfully shot |
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Netbeavis (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:21 AM Response to Reply #29 |
61. and had the cops had a taser handy....they would not have needed to shoot them either |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:07 AM Response to Reply #24 |
33. And a lot more who were kicked, punched, and choked |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:11 AM Response to Reply #33 |
40. You're right, cops shouldn't risk harming themselve when they feel |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:12 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. That's right |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:12 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. You seem to ignore the fact that |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:13 AM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Let's see some facts to back up your assertion that they are (never) fired for misconduct |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:16 AM Response to Reply #47 |
52. Rodney King anyone? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:20 AM Response to Reply #52 |
59. How many of those officers are still serving on the LAPD? |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 11:58 AM Original message |
True, and it only took the LA riots to do it. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:12 AM Response to Reply #40 |
45. You believe the cops on that video |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:17 AM Response to Reply #45 |
55. No, it was a deliberate exageration in this case, and a metaphore for taser use |
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nebenaube (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:08 AM Response to Reply #18 |
36. bullshit... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:11 AM Response to Reply #36 |
41. How about "sometimes gets misused"? |
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Mike Daniels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:06 AM Response to Reply #9 |
30. And people have been killed through the use of submission holds |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
2. I think given the fact taht most criminals are degenerates cops should just blow them away |
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Connie_Corleone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
3. Some police officers can misuse tasers by using them on people |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
4. Getting shot hurts too |
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Crabby Appleton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 11:41 AM Response to Reply #4 |
83. So does a PR-24 |
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madinmaryland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
12. You have the pre 9-11 mentality. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
13. I Think Tasers Are A Great Addition To Law Enforcement And Extremely Beneficial. |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:01 AM Response to Reply #13 |
21. The problem is that police has demonstrated that |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:05 AM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Oh Please. |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:07 AM Response to Reply #25 |
32. Perhaps you should reserach it a little bit. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:08 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Well, there you have it! |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:14 AM Response to Reply #35 |
48. You can check out the one where the cop tasers a pregnant woman |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:15 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Post a link and explain how you would have handled the situation |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:10 AM Response to Reply #32 |
39. So, So, Narrow Minded. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:05 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Police "has" used them responsibly on many occasions |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:07 AM Response to Reply #26 |
34. Yes they should |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:14 AM Response to Reply #34 |
49. More appeals to isness without hard information to back them up |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:51 AM Response to Reply #34 |
72. Some law enforcement officers misuse their guns also |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:04 PM Response to Reply #13 |
96. Try googling "taser death" |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:23 PM Response to Reply #13 |
101. Would you agree that they should be used in dangerous situations only? |
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Netbeavis (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
15. a taser, when legally justifiable, is a solid tool in the use of force continuum |
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NYVet (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
16. When I was on Active duty as an MP |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
19. The problem with your post, Bonobo, is you focus on the tool rather than its misuse |
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Netbeavis (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:24 AM Response to Reply #19 |
64. Yes. You can question "were the cops justified" but not the methodology of the arrest |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
20. Agreed |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:03 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Most police officers "is" capable of using them responsibly |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:05 AM Response to Reply #23 |
27. That may be true, but it is evident that a good portion of them are not capable. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:07 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Could you possibly make your broad-brush condemnation any more vague? |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:09 AM Response to Reply #31 |
37. I guess you believe it's ok to taser a diabetic person |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:10 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. If the person is combatant and a threat to the officer or others, perhaps so |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:25 AM Response to Reply #38 |
67. And yet it still happened. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:50 AM Response to Reply #67 |
71. You should learn how to formulate and write out a coherent thought |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 10:23 AM Response to Reply #71 |
80. Deleted message |
slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 11:50 AM Response to Reply #80 |
87. Your English is fine, your logic is deficient |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 11:53 AM Response to Reply #87 |
88. The problem is how readily they are accepted even when misused. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #88 |
97. I do not accept their misuse, and again you haven't quantified the level of acceptance |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:23 PM Response to Reply #97 |
100. At least we have arrived at the crux of the matter. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #100 |
104. There you go again with vague, emotion-based, non-scalar terminology |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #104 |
106. You don't believe that a taser inflicts massive pain? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #106 |
109. Massive has no specific meaning in this context |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #109 |
122. Well, then if you choose to ignore what exactly tasers do |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:45 PM Response to Reply #122 |
123. Straw Man fallacy |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:45 PM Response to Reply #123 |
125. No but you readily ignore it when assessing it's use. nt |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #125 |
126. Another useless emotionally charged adjective |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:33 PM Response to Reply #104 |
112. I am not talking about a posed threat. I am talking about gaining compliance |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:37 PM Response to Reply #112 |
116. Convenience is probably not a good reason |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:41 PM Response to Reply #116 |
118. Agreed. |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:45 PM Response to Reply #116 |
124. Agreed |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 11:55 AM Response to Reply #87 |
90. They are used as a compliance device all the time |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:20 PM Response to Reply #90 |
98. What would you have the police do to obtain compliance from a dangerous suspect? |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:24 PM Response to Reply #98 |
102. He said he would get up and walk out rather clearly. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #102 |
105. Let's be clear - If you are talking about the dude in Florida, then I agree with you |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #98 |
103. Yes God forbid they should handcuff them first |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #103 |
108. It depends on the situation |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #108 |
110. That's true enough, |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:32 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. You seem to be flipping back and forth from this one case to Taser use in general |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #111 |
114. I'm not flipping back and forth |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #114 |
115. Please provide some facts and figures to supplement your anecdotes |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:42 PM Response to Reply #115 |
119. For facts you can follow some of the links have provided |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #119 |
121. Another emotionally charged non-scalar term |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #121 |
127. And you'll probably learn not to be flippant and arrogant over time. |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:29 AM Response to Reply #37 |
68. ok to taser a diabetic person |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 11:57 AM Response to Reply #68 |
91. Like this one? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:35 PM Response to Reply #91 |
113. That's one case of dumb cops who should be fired and prosecuted |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:40 PM Response to Reply #113 |
117. And this one too I guess? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #117 |
120. I don't need to watch all those, I will take your word that they are inappropriate uses |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:53 PM Response to Reply #120 |
130. Much more often I'm sure, |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #130 |
131. Would a rash of drunk-driver videos on YouTube constitute a drunk driving crisis? |
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Bassic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #131 |
133. So how much brutality is too much brutality? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 02:15 PM Response to Reply #133 |
134. One incident is too much, but one incident doesn't define a crisis |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 10:53 AM Response to Reply #91 |
137. Unable to determine. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
56. "Tasers=Torture" = Hyperbole |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:24 AM Response to Reply #56 |
65. Here's the point, ok: |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:54 AM Response to Reply #65 |
73. Hyperbole. |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
63. I saw the video...There appeared to be several officers there... |
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Neecy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 10:14 AM Response to Reply #63 |
77. that's what I thought, too |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
66. Tasers = portable electric torture devices. |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:32 AM Response to Reply #66 |
70. And those are? |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
74. Oh, please. It's a tool, and a good one. Any tool can be misused. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
75. No. They are not "equal to" torture |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 10:17 AM Response to Reply #75 |
78. Headlines are limited in space and I was making a point. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 11:12 AM Response to Reply #78 |
82. Your evidence that they "are being used" as torture devices consists of anecdotes you saw on TV |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
79. Kerry better not mention Abu Ghraib again... that's for sure |
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Bodhi BloodWave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 11:54 AM Response to Reply #79 |
89. i disagree with that |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:21 PM Response to Reply #79 |
99. Oh, please.... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
84. What are handcuffs? S&M sexual bondage? |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
85. Tasers > Rubber bullets. |
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RangerRK (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 11:58 AM Response to Reply #85 |
92. Before tasers, this student would have been shot? |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:00 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. This student represents, at worst, an inappropriate usage of tasers. |
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snooper2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
93. I wouldn't say so.... |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
135. Sometimes. |
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