Anyone ever been asked to leave a bar by a bouncer?

Harper_is_Bush

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Tue Sep-18-07 07:38 PM
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Anyone ever been asked to leave a bar by a bouncer?

Edited on Tue Sep-18-07 07:56 PM by Harper_is_Bush

This idea that people have absolute freedom of movement and speech on PRIVATE PROPERTY is false.

The little trouble-maker was asked essentially by the OWNERS of the property to leave.

When he refused, he was taken by the arms and guided to comply with the request.

When he resisted and strugled, HE was escalating it.

I've seen trouble-makers in the bar during my wasted youth who were approached by bouncers and told they needed to leave. When they refused, they were man-handled much more forcebly than that guy. Bouncers are essentially acting on behalf of the OWNERS of the bar, which is PRIVATE PROPERTY. They have a right to do what they do. These university police were no different.

There's a lot of melo-drama and outrage over the treatment this kid got...and false claims that it's an assault on free speech...but in the end it boild down to this:

He was asked to leave and he refused and then physically resisted when being made to leave.

He got what he asked for.

EDIT: Before responding to me, make sure to check out the police report:
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2007/images/09/18/offense.report.072274.pdf
As Senator Kerry was ending his speech, a man disrupted the senator by screaming, yelling,
and flailing his arms. The man moved his way down the aisle yelling, "Why don't you answer
my questions, I have been waiting and listening to you speak in circles for the last two hours."
"These officers are going to arrest me". I didn't see any officer directly next to him until I
noticed Officer Wise walking down trying to get his attention. The man was screaming and
yelling obscenities until Senator Kerry told him to calm down and that he would take his
question, but he needed to calm down. At that point, the man stated, "You will take my
question because I have been listening to your crap for two hours". The man at that point
turned to his friend and said, "Are you taping this? Do you have this? You ready?" The man
was talking to a woman who was there to film him. Before asking the question, I had a chance
to ask the man if he was a student and he stated, "I don't have to tell you." I the asked him if
he knew the rules to the student code of conduct and he said, "What?" I informed the man
that after he asked Senator Kerry the question that I needed to talk to him outside. After
asking the question, the man would not let Senator Kerry finish his statement and kept
badgering the senator about his beliefs, talking about "blow jobs", and yelling as loud as he
could as to sensationalize his presence.

At that moment the Accent Director, Max Tyroler, asked us to take him out of the auditorium
and had his microphone turned off stating, "He had said enough." Officer Wise and I
grabbed both of the man's arms and asked him to come with us out of the auditorium to
speak with us. The man then lifted me up and pushed Officer Wise to avoid being taken into
custody. As he pushed and kicked Officer Wise,....

You can read the rest here...
http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2007/images/09/18/offense.report.072274.pdf

Quite obviously a planned stunt by a troubled and naive young man. He's learned a lesson about the world I hope....he is not the center of it..and even in a free society you cannot do whatever you want.