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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 06:41 AM
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'the Clinton plan is about as socialistic as a Ronald Reagan corporate tax cut'
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/09/18/3919/

Clinton’s Prescription for Another Heath Care Reform Failure

by John Nichols


Of course, the ridiculous Mitt Romney decries the Clinton campaign proposal as “European-style socialized medicine.”

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The reality is that the Clinton plan is about as socialistic as a Ronald Reagan corporate tax cut.

The Clinton plan maintains the current system of for-profit, insurance-industry defined health care delivery. The only real change is that, in return for minimal requirements regarding coverage of those with preexisting conditions, the government would pump hundreds of billions in federal dollars into the accounts of some of the country’s wealthiest corporations. The plan’s tax credit scheme would buy some more coverage for low-income families, which is good, but it would do so at a cost so immense that, ultimately, Clinton’s plan will be as tough a sell as the failed 1993 “Hillarycare” proposal.

America is ready for health care reform.

But it is not ready for more bureaucracy, more expense and more revenue for insurance companies.

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Clinton could have proposed such a system. Indeed, she could have modeled it on the plan she and other members of Congress now enjoy.

Instead, she chose to propose a scheme defined not by the needs or desires of the American people but by the demands of existing insurance firms and a dysfunctional for-profit health care industry.



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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 06:45 AM
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1. It seems to me that Ms. Clinton is more like Margaret Thatcher than Ronald Reagan
Just saying ...
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 06:52 AM
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2. Philisophically There Wasn't Much Space Between Them
BTW, Rudy calls Hillary's plan "Hillary-Michael Moore Car"

That's ironic because Moore isn't fond of private health insurance at all...
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 06:59 AM
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4. Just proves how stupid modern "conservatives" are
I'm sure Rudy doesn't believe this, but his base does.

Any real Goldwater conservatives would love Hillary, but that just shows how many think for themselves.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 12:20 PM
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7. Shows ya fucking rudy doesn't
know what he's talking..one of his speech writers probably came up with that without actually reading the corporatewellfare plan.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 06:53 AM
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3. I think her plan PROVES that she has been bought.
Her plan seems like the same thing Bush was pushing. Tax credits for people who can already afford to pay for insurance. No reduction of the ridiculous overhead expenses incurred by the for-profit companies.

I won't even CONSIDER Hillary as our party's candidate based upon this plan. I hope the other Dem candidates ream her for her sellout of the American people.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 07:28 AM
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5. it sure does
and Big Pharma and the Insurance Lobby are practically gloating over it.....


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20822145/site/newsweek


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We support all of that,” says Karen Ignagni, CEO of American Health Insurance Plans, the health-insurance industry trade group. This year AHIP, whose lobbyists are in constant contact with Clinton’s staff, put forward its own plan for universal coverage, which Ignagni says got a positive response from the senator’s office.


She’s made nice with the pharmaceutical industry, too. Big Pharma’s lobbyists are constantly engaged with her staff, as they are with other members of Congress. “Hillary recognizes the important role of employer-provided health insurance and the important role of private markets in insuring the people in the country,” says Billy Tauzin, the president of PhRMA (the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America, a trade group for the industry), who voted against her first plan when he was a member of Congress. “I take comfort in that.”
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 12:22 PM
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8. I'm a little more than surprised she
can't see the Proof right there for herself. Does that mean she thinks we Americans are too dense and obtuse to get this? Oh My!
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 08:40 AM
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6. And this be our motto:
"Root, hog, or die."



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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-19-07 12:27 PM
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9. I googled it ..not having heard
it before. I thought I knew but wanted to make sure..yeah, personally I don't have insurance, I take care of my own health but that's just me and I've been fortunate I haven't broken any limbs since 1980..knock on wood!

But, I know that's not the American way and some people need health care for their kids and lots of situations so I tend to stay out of it.

I know they made my son buy health insurance for him and his wife who is applying for a green card.

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