Heads UP! C-SPAN 2...Senate is debating Habeas Corpus!

[in_cog_ni_to]

For those interested. :hi:

Link for those who don't have C-SPAN 2:

http://www.cspan.org/watch/cs_cspan2_wm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS2

[TwilightGardener]

1. Thanks.

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4. Jeff Sessions--I'd recognize that "Dukes of Hazzard" voice anywhere.

[madokie]

2. does sessions get on my nerves, yes he does

how in the hell can anyone vote for this dude is beyond me

To Add: Thanks

[ChairmanAgnostic]

3. many of the 28% live in his state

He exists precisely because he fits in with them

[librechik]

6. oh. my. god.

sound off!


shorter Sessions:
"(The Republican) Congress changed the law so it's all right now! Oh these over-reacting obstructionist DemocRats!Why can't they just leave perfection alone!"

[presspeal]

5. Debating it?

What to hell is there to debate?:argh:
How far back into the stone age do their intend to drag us?

[The Wielding Truth]

47. GOP trying to filibuster. I just called my Senators to support it.

Please email yours or call .

http://restore-habeas.org/

http://restore-habeas.org/whip/total.php?err=1

[mikelgb]

82. ya know? fer fucks sake

[zabet]

7. Thanks! n/t

:hi:

[swag]

8. Who ya gonna call?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1836487&mesg_id=1836487

[halobeam]

9. watching now...

thanks! Leahy up.

[in_cog_ni_to]

10. Pat Leahy is up. He's AWESOME. Arlen Specter, of all people, is supporting the renewal of Habeas

Corpus. I wonder how many others on the repuke side are?

[suffragette]

11. Leahy's talking now

[madokie]

12. What a good man Sen. Leahy is

I can't remember ever thinking otherwise

[suffragette]

14. Absolutely agree

[cali]

13. What did Leahy say?

I'm so worried about this vote. And bless Leahy for working his butt off on this.

[halobeam]

15. I can't imagine this being restored

only 16 signatures? oh brother.

I share your concern. There is ample reason for this worry, it's vital we stop our founding fathers' from the never ending rotisserie they are stuck on, in their graves.

[suffragette]

17. I had cspan going on the computer

at the same time with Stephanie on the radio for the start so missed much. Plus I'm just getting my morning coffee here.
I did hear him say, paraphrasing it, that by not allowing habeas corpus here for accused, that sent a message to the international community to ignore habeas for U.S. citizens. Basically, if we do that here, others will feel free to do it elsewhere. Absolutely agree with him.

[walldude]

16. Habeas Corpus? Pshaw...

I just don't have the time to worry about stupid little things like Habeas Corpus. I have TASERS to worry about!

[redqueen]

70. Well... some of us can chew gum and walk at the same time.

:hi:

[walldude]

77. Oh yeah?

When I try that the gum gets stuck to the bottom of my shoe. Then I get my taser mixed up with my habeas corpus and the next thing you know I'm zapping all the lawyers.

[redqueen]

78. ....

:rofl:

I'm sorry, I know not all lawyers are bad... but that just sounded so good!

[suffragette]

18. Is this the cloture vote already?

[halobeam]

19. How the HELL do these ppl vote no to restore Habeas Corpus?

It's truly another world.

[cali]

20. When is the vote?

and thanks for posting.

[suffragette]

22. Looks like they voting now

That was lightning fast.

[TwilightGardener]

21. Going to be a total party line vote--not even Coleman or Warner.

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23. Specter--aye. Good for him, the little weasel.

[cali]

24. Yep.

Are all the dems going to vote with Leahy and weasel Arlen?

[TwilightGardener]

25. Hope so--I think even Ben Nelson will vote for it, but it looks like

only Sununu and Specter and Hagel voting aye.

[cali]

33. Hopefully Tim Johnson is there

and will vote yes. We know Bernie will. What about that toad Lieberman? Maybe the Maine twins will vote with us. That would be something like 55. Looks like we lose..... again.

[TwilightGardener]

37. Yeah. Lieberman no. Color me SHOCKED!

[suffragette]

40. I heard an "aye" for Johnson

But it is mostly party lines with just a few Republicans crossing over to Aye.

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26. Hagel aye--thanks Chuck! You're going out with class!

[librechik]

27. we need 60 votes for cloture

sigh

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29. It's not looking good. Lugar aye, at least.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

31. I've missed most the vote

Any idea how close it is?

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34. I don't think it's going to pass cloture.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

39. You're kidding me

How in the hell can that many Senators have voted against habeas corpus?

We are one screwed up country.

[TwilightGardener]

43. We're a fearful country--too fearful to stand up for our own founding principles.

[librechik]

50. tthis is disgusting. I can't watch anymore

as we twirl slowly into the toilet. While those upholstered jackasses laugh and chat and clean their fucking glasses.

Farewell America.

[in_cog_ni_to]

28. The Webb Amendment will be voted on today too! I heard on Washington Journal this morning

that the Dems have enough repubs who will now vote for it and pass it! :thumbsup: His amendment is for allowing the troops as much time off at home as what they serve. 18 months deployment will equal 18 months home.

[rodeodance]

30. Sen Craig is on the fl again---says Nay

[TwilightGardener]

32. Good thing that fuckwad showed up, huh? What did the nation do without him?

:eyes:

[rodeodance]

35. What kink of a vote is this?

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36. Cloture vote on restoring Habeas Corpus.

[rodeodance]

41. thanks as I joined this late

[rodeodance]

45. Kerry and Byrd AYE

[rodeodance]

48. Murlowski NO-------I think I heard a NELSON as a NO earlier . anyone hear?

[suffragette]

51. I thought I heard two Ayes for the Nelsons

but I might not have heard it correctly

[TwilightGardener]

61. I don't know about Bill, but I figured Ben would be an AYE.

[rodeodance]

38. I am speculating that the Rupugs got Craig back for some of these close votes

[Lone_Star_Dem]

42. I agree

He's permitted to play so long as he votes accordingly.

[suffragette]

46. I think you're correct in that

[rodeodance]

55. Sucks!!

[suffragette]

80. Yeah, it does

It's so damn close in numbers in the Senate. They get to have it both ways by still having him there. They can say they don't support him, but know they have his vote.

[riqster]

44. Can someone provide a link to the vote totals when it's available?

[TwilightGardener]

Olympia Snowe--NO! I never liked her. Some moderate.

[rodeodance]

49. SNOWE--NO

[rodeodance]

53. ms COLLINS ---NO

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54. Susan Collins NO--looks like somebody needs RNC funding and support for re-election.

[KoKo]

52. Thanks for the Post & Thread....I didn't have the heart to watch it fearing

another let down. If they can't restore the right to habeaus ...what's the point anymore.

[TwilightGardener]

56. Snowe changes her vote--AYE--OK, I like her again. Rockefeller aye.

[rodeodance]

57. Rocky, yes,

[TwilightGardener]

58. Nope--it's done for. Didn't pass.

[halobeam]

63. Terrorists hate us for our freedoms? Stand aside, we'll hand them over to ya!

No need to fight us for them.

[suffragette]

59. 56 to 43

move to reconsider

[rodeodance]

60. dame -56-43

[rodeodance]

62. even those women---collins and Snowe saying NO. damm!

[rodeodance]

64. i just read a post upstream and its says Snowe changed her vote to Aye.

[LeftHander]

65. Why are Deomcrats so ineffective? Thanks DINOs...nt

[Lone_Star_Dem]

67. Which Dems voted no?

[TwilightGardener]

68. What are you talking about--I think all Dems voted aye.

[halobeam]

71. I don't have access to see if some didn't vote...

if all dems voted aye and we have five repubs.. wouldn't that have passed then? what am I missing?

[TwilightGardener]

75. No--we only got 56.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

79. I think Lieberman voted no

Which leaves us with 50 Democrats in the caucus.

We needed 60 votes.

[cali]

76. You are the problem

and you are full of it.

All the dems voted against the repuke filibuster except LIEberman, and he doesn't count as a dem.

[hedda_foil]

81. Snowe's last minute vote change from Nay to Aye

Snowe's last minute vote change from Nay to Aye is a standard ploy. If her vote had been needed to avoid cloture, you can damn betcha she would have stuck to her Nay vote. By changing it after she knew there were more than enough votes, she can tell her mad as hell constituents that she voted Aye. She didn't vote Nay by accident. The Aye vote was an election-year ploy.

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66. Only five Repubs to vote aye: Sununu, Lugar, Snowe, Specter, Hagel.

[suffragette]

69. Looks like Reid, Murray and a few others

are having an animated discussion.
Can anyone make out who all is in that group talking?

[TwilightGardener]

72. Absolutely shameful. If there's any doubt that Republicans are

the true enemy of freedom and democratic principles, this should wipe it away.

[halobeam]

73. 100% correct.

Talk about anti-American.

[TwilightGardener]

74. John McCain bloviating and sucking up free publicity.

Warner has a resolution? Must be why he won't support Webb's--what an old fuckwad.