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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 10:47 PM
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Great Americablog Post: Lesbian Exposes The Moral Bankrupcy Of The Unraveling 'Family Values' Crowd
http://www.americablog.com/2007/09/exposing-moral-bankruptcy-of-unraveling.html

Exposing the moral bankruptcy of the unraveling professional 'family values' crowd
by Pam Spaulding · 9/25/2007 11:39:00 PM ET

At the religious right's Family Impact Summit this past weekend, a brave woman took on the self-righteous, prevaricators at the event. Cathy James, a lesbian, who has a child and is in a committed relationship with a partner, stood up and politely challenged the anti-gay statements of the panelists and John Stemberger and Peter Sprigg were guffawing to address her.

Jim Burroway of Box Turtle Bulletin was there as she brilliantly framed her questions to the panel.

Hi. My names is Cathy James and I would like to challenge all of the individuals here listening today to really take a look at some of the rationale and some of the comments that speakers have given in regard to things such as ?why government gets involved with personal relationships, that is, for the procreation of children. I think as most of the attorneys will tell you, that civil marriage was created for one purpose only, and that was property and how to divide property.

And so I am a lesbian, I live in the Riverview area with my partner of thirteen years and our son who is seven. And I go to work Monday through Friday and attend church weekly, I volunteer at the school, I volunteer at the homeowners association. And what I have a hard time understanding is why you are interested in keeping a legal framework from us in being able to handle the same things as heterosexual couples and such things as visitation, and hospital?. And how to divide our property in the same way, and how to parent our child?

The stunned silence was amazing. John Stemberger thanked her for coming and tried to stammer out an answer. He said that some forms of discrimination are perfectly legitimate ("home ownership benefits society in the way renters do not.") and ended by saying, "marriage uniquely benefits society in the way same sex couples do not." But Cathy remained calm and firm:

But in what way? What's the difference in the benefit? How does your marriage benefit society more than my relationship with my same gender partner does not? Peter Sprigg jumped in to assert that "without question" the best family structure was headed by a man and a woman. But Cathy persisted:

"But now you're devaluing, what, over fifty percent of the children who live with one parent or that one parent as died or that they're divorced and now they're just living with one parent. You're devaluing them and that's not fair.

By now the panel was speechless, leaving Peter Sprigg to stumble around trying to get his footing.

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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 10:49 PM
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1. hoo raaa sing it k&r
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dickbearton Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 10:25 PM
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18. It's time we all stand by Cathy...
And confront these hatemongers.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 11:04 PM
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2. Bravo!
:applause:

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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 12:50 AM
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3. .
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:00 AM
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4. That's what's in our country NOW..
the way Cathy James was so strong and eloquent in her confrontation with questions that kept coming until it was obvious they had no idea how to defend their positions.

The way David Shuster confronted marsha blackburn yesterday on cable. We need someone like Cathy James to confront the warmongers..not cover up with Terra Terra Terra, Sabre Rattle, Sabre Rattle, Sabre Rattle.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 05:28 AM
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5. morning kick n/t
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 05:32 AM
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6. Beautiful.
Nominated.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 05:35 AM
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7. Geeez, where's Lynn Cheney when you really need her???
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 06:12 AM
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8. Moral bankruptcy....
...is exactly what it is. My congratulations for the courage of Cathy James to talk-down her detractors. :applause:

And Pam Spaulding is one of the greatest reporters out there. If you've never had the chance, check out http://www.pamshouseblend.com/frontPage.do">Pam's House Blend. :bounce:

K&R!!!
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 06:21 AM
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9. How can there be benefits in a morally bankrupted society? n/t
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 08:43 AM
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10. I applaud Cathy James. We should all speak truth to these bigots.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:19 PM
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11. afternoon kick n/t
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:10 PM
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12. awesome!
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 07:01 PM
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13. I think I'll kick again. n/t
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Twig Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 09:46 PM
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14. And a kick from me...
:kick: This was wonderful.

Twig
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pingzing58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 10:17 PM
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15. To challenge them with the truth is always the best path to take! Cudos to those who do.
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MedleyMisty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 10:21 PM
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16. I want to be her friend
She sounds like a really cool person.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 10:24 PM
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17. k&r. Thank you.
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NoGodsNoMasters Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 10:58 PM
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19. Sing it sister!!!
If I knew this lady I'd buy her a drink. just wish I'd seen it.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 11:26 PM
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20. Welcome to DU!
She sounds like a wonderful person to me, too.
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RushIsRot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 11:38 PM
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21. What a brilliant person! She did herself proud while showing up
the bigots for what they are.
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