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american_typeculture (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 10:54 AM Original message |
Holocaust denial? This country need only look in the mirror. |
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MrModerate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
1. And is anybody denying this happened? n/t |
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ChenZhen (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. For the most part, we do not acknowledge it happened... |
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bryant69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:14 AM Response to Reply #7 |
17. How likely is that? |
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ChenZhen (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:27 AM Response to Reply #17 |
33. It is unlikely...unless the United Nations forced us to... |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #7 |
48. That's what should have been done in the first place |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 12:27 PM Response to Reply #48 |
69. my mother grew up and lived on that land |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 03:11 PM Response to Reply #69 |
88. My point is, we could have done much better by the natives than by giving them |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. The denial comes in the form of silence n/t |
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american_typeculture (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:04 AM Response to Reply #1 |
9. It's a denial. |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:13 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. some haven't heard of the Trail of Tears either |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:19 AM Response to Reply #15 |
22. Same folks that can't find Iraq on the map or know the capitol of Canada? |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 03:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
89. Trail of Tears opposed by Congress and Supreme Court |
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txaslftist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:14 AM Response to Reply #9 |
18. Well, in fairness, "most Americans" don't know an awful lot. |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:07 AM Response to Reply #1 |
10. How many even know about it |
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gaspee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:27 AM Response to Reply #10 |
32. What happened in the Philippine Islands |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 03:02 PM Response to Reply #32 |
86. I was in my late thirties when I found out about |
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mainegreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-27-07 07:30 AM Response to Reply #10 |
111. I think more than you might suspect know about it. |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:25 AM Response to Reply #1 |
28. How much of this did you learn in public school? |
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bunkerbuster1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:26 AM Response to Reply #1 |
30. not as such, but many Americans stop short of calling it what it was: Genocide. |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:45 AM Response to Reply #1 |
46. How much is it even discussed in history classes. So much of our history is dictated by wealthy |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 05:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
94. In one way or another |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
2. you nailed it |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
3. Yeah... |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 10:59 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. they already did that |
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MyNameGoesHere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 10:59 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. when they get lobbyist as powerful |
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txaslftist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:12 AM Response to Reply #3 |
14. Let's give them Burma. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:36 AM Response to Reply #14 |
42. Apples and oranges. |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 02:35 PM Response to Reply #42 |
85. Apples and apples |
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Poll_Blind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
6. And if Germany opened an American Indidan Holocaust museum, how... |
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distantearlywarning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
11. Great. America sucks. |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:14 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Ooohhh...thanks for that 'tu qoque' thing! n/t |
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distantearlywarning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 02:20 PM Response to Reply #16 |
83. You're quite welcome. |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:21 AM Response to Reply #11 |
25. Yes, thanks |
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american_typeculture (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:23 AM Response to Reply #11 |
27. Wow, thank the heavenly stars for wikipedia. |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:30 AM Response to Reply #27 |
37. Nooo....I think it is to the point. |
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distantearlywarning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 02:20 PM Response to Reply #37 |
82. Ding, ding, ding. |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 07:43 PM Response to Reply #82 |
96. The irony is palpable here. |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 07:51 PM Response to Reply #82 |
102. That last part wasn't for me, was it? |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 09:18 PM Response to Reply #27 |
107. Yeah, that's how it seems to me. |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 09:07 PM Response to Reply #11 |
106. Personally I don't think there's any question about that. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
12. K& R |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
13. So you so much for posting this |
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Sequoia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
19. Here's a documentary you might be interested in: |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
20. I love the grand hypocracy here in America |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
21. i SO agree with |
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gaspee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
23. Silly rabbit |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
24. This has NOTHING to do with Skinner's post. |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:27 AM Response to Reply #24 |
31. Thank you |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #24 |
47. It's not a matter of hating America. |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:53 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. So we can't ever criticize other nations? nt |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 12:03 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Sure we can - but we should be aware of how we do it to avoid |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. Maybe that's why Skinner was short and to the point. I saw nothing self-righteous... |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 12:39 PM Response to Reply #63 |
73. i acknowledge your |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 12:52 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. I can. Peace to you, too. nt |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 12:06 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. does it piss you off that Craig was so anti Gay? Does it piss you off that |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 12:12 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. I am talking about a simple statement that one man... |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
26. Most American's knowledge of history is, "Yesterday I went shopping". |
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Tian Zhuangzhuang (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
29. Good lord half of American history was how we killed Indians, |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:28 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. really!? |
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Tian Zhuangzhuang (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:32 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. well the American Indian movement had just taken over Alcatraz |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 12:03 PM Response to Reply #38 |
57. Wow. Really? What happened? |
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american_typeculture (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:30 AM Response to Reply #29 |
36. By "good" do you mean "wealthy"? |
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Tian Zhuangzhuang (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:34 AM Response to Reply #36 |
41. I was being snarky will edit for clarity nt |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:38 AM Response to Reply #29 |
43. Half of the history of all modern countries is made of |
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Tian Zhuangzhuang (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:42 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Thank You I hate it when people use our past |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:52 AM Response to Reply #44 |
49. people use the past to justify everything- |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. it continues today |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 12:09 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. i completely agree with you, and |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. you are one of a few |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 08:33 PM Response to Reply #55 |
105. I give a s*** about people who get the short end of the stick |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 12:07 PM Response to Reply #49 |
59. I don't disagree with you, |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. at least we are discussing it |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 12:14 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. Yes, that's very true. |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 12:23 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. I wish it had been discussed |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. That's absolutely horrible, I'm so sorry. |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. it is gut wrenching |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 12:59 PM Response to Reply #72 |
79. That's so sad for your aunt to feel that way, |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 12:33 PM Response to Reply #61 |
71. i understand Seasonedblue and agree COV- we often |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 12:42 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Very wise words |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
35. "Chief Black Kettle" |
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american_typeculture (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:33 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. I just noticed that. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
40. Thank you. K&R nt |
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Th1onein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
45. Does anyone have a link on this Holocaust Denial thing? |
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Tian Zhuangzhuang (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:52 AM Response to Reply #45 |
50. Your kidding right.... |
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Th1onein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 04:13 PM Response to Reply #50 |
93. I'm sorry, but I'm not. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 07:54 PM Response to Reply #50 |
103. Do you have a link? |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:55 AM Response to Reply #45 |
52. dead horse- lets address the actions of America the land of the |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:59 AM Response to Reply #45 |
54. No he didn't but people wanting to kill Iranians said that he did. |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #45 |
62. First read this post |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 07:51 PM Response to Reply #45 |
100. He hosted a holocaust denial conference |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 07:51 PM Response to Reply #45 |
101. No, he has said several times that millions of Jews were killed by the Nazi's |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
53. Check out Leonard Peltier, Wounded Knee and the murders of so many in the American Indian Movement. |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
68. Nobody's denying this. Is this supposed to be defending Ahmadinejad? n/t |
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american_typeculture (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 12:40 PM Response to Reply #68 |
74. If you are American then you come from a culture that denies this fact. |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 12:55 PM Response to Reply #68 |
78. think hard about the concept of "denying it"--- |
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softwarevotingtrail (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
77. 1.5 million Vietnamese + 2 million Cambodians + 1 million Iraqis |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. However valid the topic, in itself, you are being jerked around by the neocons |
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ozone_man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 02:18 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. You might say we export a continual state of holocaust. |
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softwarevotingtrail (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 03:58 PM Response to Reply #81 |
92. Why We Fight is a great movie |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 03:53 PM Response to Reply #77 |
91. I agree with Kucinich...it's time for a "Department of Peace!" Hate & Killing need to stop... |
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ellie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
84. I've been there |
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RangerRK (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
87. Genocide Denial: We have killed over One Million Iraqis!! |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
90. Just like Eichmann. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-27-07 07:22 AM Response to Reply #90 |
110. It's worse |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
95. I'll go out on a limb here |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 07:45 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. Yeah, sounds like something Ahmadinejad would say. |
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KG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 07:48 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. well said. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 07:50 PM Response to Reply #95 |
99. There are still Jews alive in Europe, too |
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ozone_man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 08:01 PM Response to Reply #95 |
104. Genocide definition. |
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Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 09:21 PM Response to Reply #95 |
108. Well, I'm going out on a limb and post an immature cat macro |
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txwhitedove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 10:25 PM Response to Reply #95 |
109. Where have you been, where did you go to school, what do you read? |
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