What Will You Do If Bush Attacks Iran

[Parche]

We have all been hearing the war calls lately, and now with this ignorant Kyl/Lieberman amendment
passing I have to ask this question to all DU'rs, What will you do if Bush/Cheney attacks Iran?

I know we went to the streets last time in 2003 when Bush illegally invaded Iraq
I dont know what to do anymore with this rogue administration, nothing seems to be working,
we can protest until we are blue in the face, we send letters and call our Senators and
Congressman, and look what we have with that.

SO WHAT DO WE DO?? :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :hi:




PS. I dont agree with Ahmadinijad either, I think he is a psycho, and I really dont agree
with the violations of human rights in Iran, especially to females,gays.
But that doesnt mean we should invade Iran, (Probably over false and doctored intelligence.)
We should work with them to try to stop their horrible human rights issues.

[gateley]

1. "Human Rights" is an oxymoron in Repug Speak nt

[Selatius]

2. I don't know.

Protesting didn't work for the last war, and they won't listen to letters to the editor either.

[acmavm]

3. Ahmadinijad is NOT Iran. He is not embodiment of the people

of Iran, and the mullahs are trying to get rid of his ass. So if we bomb Iran because of this looney nutcase than this country will have stepped over all bounds of humanity and decency because we know what a freakshow lying bunch of thugs are running our government. And we know what their true aim is, to get their hands on Iran's oil and gas, and make Israel's Olmert and Netanyahu happy campers.

edit: and we'll all be responsible because we know that bush** & Co. are lying murderous thugs and this is how they justified Iraq.

[Deja Q]

10. So let's help the mullahs and get rid of the twerp.

Ahamedaweeniehead has openly said a lot of comments that redefine "negativity" that doesn't do him any favors regarding this topic either.

[acmavm]

17. If we could do it without bombing innocent people I'd say hell

yes. But we don't have the skills or the contacts. And I'm sure that the mullahs would want to work with intelligence services from a country that has been threatening their destruction ever since they hijacked the 2000 election.

[nadinbrzezinski]

4. I will do what I need to do to live with myself

continue to agitate

but I know it is useless

There will be war... end of discusiton, so you will do what you need to do to as a moral person

Remember, you no longer live in a moral state

[Robbien]

5. There are only 27 true Democrats in the Senate. Just a small minority.

Warmongering is our new primary function.

[Johonny]

6. Kiss the

value of my American dollars good bye?

[Done]

39. I have a new product I've invented...

I'm trying to get a patent on it.

It is a neon sign that sits on top of a hardhat. There is a neon arrow that points down at the hardhat, and the words on the sign are..."I'm over here Jesus".

[Burma Jones]

7. Invest in Defense Contractors

and take the profit and give it to anti-war candidates.....

I don't think we're going to war with Iran. China would be really pissed if we did.

[nadinbrzezinski]

9. If we had a rational leadership I'd agree with you

but we have a bunch of nutjobs guided by ideology

We will be received with candy and flowers as liberators

It will not cost us a thing...

I could go on

They run their simms and it works in the computer, and then they are surprised that it does not go the way they planned it in real life

[mmonk]

8. I may try to get my kids to Canada to finish their educations.

Only problem is my oldest is 22 and might decide not to transfer to any university there. I still want better than this current country is for them.

[Deja Q]

11. Good luck.

I'd read up on all their immigration policies first.

[mmonk]

14. I have.

I'm looking to get them in another setup first. One of them wants to study abroad anyway.

[Dukkha]

12. nothing

Just sit back and watch America self destruct. After six years of watching this fucked up country of illiterate arrogant clueless morons give a free pass the worst president ever and the most evil corrupt administration ever, they deserve the fate that they will receive, particularly the pathetic weak cowards who turn their backs on those who put them on office to end all this and now they are in bed with the enemy. So go on and shop at Wal Mart, watch Faux News, and wave your little plastic flags.

[2rth2pwr]

13. I haven't heard anybody justifying military force because he's mean to gays

"We should work with them to try to stop their horrible human rights issues"-- How does that work? What does it mean exactly?

[Parche]

23. Diplomatic pressures

That is what our State Dept is for....but alas, we have the worst Secretree of State
ever in Condoloser Rice-A-Roni.

I didnt say that because he is mean to gays that we are invading Iran..........

:shrug: :hi:

[Kelly Rupert]

15. Say, "huh. Well,"

"hope the Iranians don't fuck up Iraq too badly."

[whistle]

16. Oh Jesus, you know how old those B-52 stratofortresses are?

...they were first flown by the U.S. airforce in 1954-55 as models A and B, some 53 years ago and the last which remain, the B-52H were commissioned in 1962 and used over Vietnam and Southeast Asia.

<snip>
The B-52A first flew in 1954, and the B model entered service in 1955. A total of 744 B-52s were built with the last, a B-52H, delivered in October 1962. Only the H model is still in the Air Force inventory and all are assigned to Air Combat Command.

The first of 102 B-52H's was delivered to Strategic Air Command in May 1961. The H model can carry up to 20 air launched cruise missiles. In addition, it can carry the conventional cruise missile which was launched from B-52G models during Desert Storm.

The B-52's electronic countermeasures suite is capable of protecting itself against a full range of air defense threat systems by using a combination of electronic detection, jamming and infrared countermeasures. The B-52 can also detect and counter missiles engaging the aircraft from the rear. These systems are undergoing continuous improvement in order to enable them to continue to counter emerging threat systems.

General Characteristics
Primary Function: Heavy bomber
Power Plant: Eight Pratt & Whitney engines TF33-P-3/103 turbofan
Thrust: Each engine up to 17,000 pounds
Length: 159 feet, 4 inches (48.5 meters)
Height: 40 feet, 8 inches (12.4 meters)
Wingspan: 185 feet (56.4 meters)
Speed: 650 miles per hour (Mach 0.86)
Ceiling: 50,000 feet (15,151.5 meters)
Weight: Approximately 185,000 pounds empty (83,250 kilograms)
Range: Unrefueled 8,800 miles (7,652 nautical miles)
Armament: Approximately 70,000 pounds (31,500 kilograms) mixed ordnance -- bombs, mines and missiles. (Modified to carry air-launched cruise missiles, Harpoon anti-ship and Have Nap missiles.)
Crew: Five (aircraft commander, pilot, radar navigator, navigator and electronic warfare officer)
Unit Cost: $30 million
Date Deployed: February 1955
Inventory: Active force, 85; ANG, 0; Reserve, 9

http://www.atomicarchive.com/Almanac/B52.shtml

[Parche]

B-52

Yes, I was in the AirForce in the 80's and they were OLD then!!!!

I dont know why we still have them, there has to be another bomber type out there
they could make?

:hi:

[Kelly Rupert]

33. Why get rid of them?

They work just fine, and they've all had their engines and electronics replaced numerous times.

[Parche]

44. B-52s

They are almost over 40-50 years old, their skin is really buckling.
:hi:

[american_typeculture]

18. Attacking Iran won't increase my level of rage enough to do anything.

Throw in a Senegal and an Ecuador, then get back to me.

[whistle]

47. What type of American are you?

[nightrider767]

19. Is it even possible?

Seems like we are stretched so thin in Iraq, the big draw-down that Bush touts is in reality troopers going home on a normal rotation.

What's the population of Iran,,, 5 times that of Iraq? Doesn't seem possible that we can go in there.

On the other hand the new French president was talking war.

The French in Iran?

6th Crusade?

[Vilis Veritas]

20. Remain steadfast and vote Democratic.

It is the only way we can regain the country. There is not a single Democratic Leader that is in bed with the RW machine, it just looks that way. CNP, PNAC...all RW'ers. And for those that missed it...the alligator metaphor...

It is not like you can walk into a den of alligators and start eating chicken. You have to plan carefully...to all the outsiders, it will look like you are appeasing the alligators...when in actuality you are just trying to survive the day...

The pendulum must swing back.

Stay focused on a Democratic Win across the board. Period...

Together, we are Invincible.

No Fear.

[derby378]

21. Not good enough...

Voting for any candidate with a "D" after his or her name isn't enough anymore. We need to make sure that candidate is a Democrat and not some boot-licking, spineless toadie.

And it's one, two, three
What are we fighting for?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn
We're off to bomb Iran
And it's five, six, seven
Open up the Pearly Gates
Well, there ain't no time to wonder why
Whoopee! We're all gonna die

[Vilis Veritas]

28. Your proposal for making sure we got that good D?

Besides just scouring the voting records, which not a whole lot of people will do...

But what if there is not someone running that you agree to? Do you vote republican? Do you not put a tick on the sheet and just refuse to vote? What would you do? For me the lesser of two evils is still the lessor evil...:shrug:

You do know that not one Democratic Leader is involved with the RW organizations that are responsible for all of the current mess? That, to me IS the issue. Who made the plans to do the deeds...

For me it is good enough, that to remain steadfast and have faith, that once the pendulum swings back, things will change.

Peace.

[derby378]

35. And how long do you think it'll take for the pendulum to swing back?

We are rapidly running out of time, thanks to the Lieberman-Kyl amendment.

And my take on Democrats is evolving to the point that if a candidate doesn't earn my vote, he doesn't get it. Howard Dean earned my vote in the 2004 primaries. Had either Russ Feingold or Al Gore decided to run in 2008, either would have earned my vote.

[Vilis Veritas]

42. I think time is the only thing we do have left...

I grew up with WAR (Vietnam). Long one with lots of dead Americans. I began protesting when I was 10 years old. Less than two years later Nixon began withdrawal.

I do not think this war will be over any time soon...it saddens me to even say that. I am concerned that the war will still be raging when my 8 year old son comes of age.

But, know this - I will never back down and give up on the Democratic Party. I vote for those who give me hope, alligators and all. To not vote is to GIVE UP and by not voting, the Right Wing Machine wins.

Democrats are not a part of the PLANNING arm of the current Right Wing Extreme Machine. That fact alone EARNS EVERY Democratic Candidate my vote.

No Fear

And peace to you, I hope that you can see your way to voting - the only other options are :scared:

edited to correct a timeline error...

[Cleita]

22. The real reason why we have to attack Iran is the same reason

we can't leave Iraq. It's because the Royal House of Saud has ordered it. From my reading this is the ony conclusion I can come up to. The Wahabi house of Saud knows that the Iranian Shia will help the Iraqi Shia to win a civil war in Iraq if we leave. The Saudis can't abide by that.

I think we need to send a new directive to Congress to investigate just how badly Saudi Arabia has infiltrated our government's policies in the Middle East through the Bush administration and it's sycophants. We need to demand no more Saudis influence in our government even if it means kicking our their whole delegation and sending them back to King Abdullah with a message. You may own the Bushistas but you don't own America.

[Vilis Veritas]

30. I believe the investigations will happen, once shrub is gone.

JMO...

No Fear.

[nightrider767]

31. Another Reason

Don't forget that one of the pinnacles of the neo-conservative ideology is to totally remap and change the balance of power in the Middle East. So for them, Iran would be the next logical step. Or maybe more likely, the next step in a plan that hatched, even before "W" took office.

[Cleita]

41. Syria's in their gunsights too if they are following the PNAC plan. n/t

[Swamp Rat]

24. Work on OUR horrible human rights issues.

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

25. Hide??? I really don't know.

I do not know. There is no use in doing the same things I have been doing, writing/calling/protesting/educating, because the outcome will be no different.

So, I just can't say what I'd do next.

[Traveling_Home]

26. What Will You Do If The French Attack Iran? eom

[Parche]

45. Piss My Pants We We

Why would the French attack Iran?

They cant even speak without it sounding like they have mashed potatoes stuck in their throats......:rofl: :rofl:



:hi:

[OHdem10]

27. As long as our elected leaders confirm Bush's actions

there is not much we can do.

Activist should start checking out people and get their
specific positions on issues before donating to campaigns.
It will take some time. Do not expect any great changes
even if Dems win in 2008.

[shadowknows69]

29. "...no more running"

"I aim to misbehave"
-Mal

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

32. After the "I told you so's"?

Probably just hunker down, protest, and try to stay alive.

[eyepaddle]

34. Riot. eom

[sniffa]

36. bLame DUers

the bLood is on your hands.

[and-justice-for-all]

37. They can not have a war if nobody shows! nt

[nashville_brook]

38. what ya'll need to do is read The Authoritarians -- your handbook to the next decade

recommended by John Dean -- used in his Conservatives Without Conscience book.


http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey

[La Lioness Priyanka]

40. cry

[HughBeaumont]

43. Storm the White House and evict these assholes.

Yeah, good luck with that. The world's societies, governments, markets and economies would be thrown into chaos. DC would be a bloodbath due to the heavily-armed police and Blackwater protecting the Crawford Caligula and Idi Dick Cheney Dada from the furious citizens.

Or stop electing Revelation-Rapture-following whack-a-moles like Reagan and the Bewshes.

But since that's never going to happen because Americans in general don't really like or want change, I say hide, wait for the shockwaves and hope we get it right after the fallout.

[EFerrari]

46. Strike and march. I just know these mofos

are going to make it necessary to go protest on the steps of the Federal Building. It's not in a safe neighborhood and there's all these Homeland Security thugs there now that scare me more than the illegal gangs of thugs. I don't know what else to do.