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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:12 PM
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It's getting clearer how the Iran War may very well start...
Look for a few weeks or months of increasingly shrill demands that Iran get out of Iraq, then look for aggressive cross-border raids on the Revolutionary Guard IN IRAN.

From there, look for retaliations and who-knows-how-big false flag retaliations. Maybe a US aircraft carrier is attacked with a cruise missile. Then we attack Iranian nuclear sites. Then Iran attacks Israel. Then all hell breaks loose. Somewhere in the mix there well could be a US 'terra attack or two - certainly a lot of scares.

Bush gets the job of starting the ball rolling (everyone hates him anyhow), the next President will be the War President.

You know what is the only thing to stop the above scenario? Iraq signs the Oil Giveaway into law and Iran agrees to honor it. Then Big Oil will pull the plug on the war. Other than that...
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:19 PM
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1. And why would anyone in their right mind want to be the next president of the United States?
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:28 PM
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6. If Gore doesn't run....
You're right.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:37 PM
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9. Judging from the field of choices
it looks like no one in their right mind does.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:40 PM
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12. and clean up this arrogant POS mess.
this is going to be a generational clean up process.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:21 PM
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2. It has.....
already started
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 01:11 PM
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21. You're back!!!
Glad to see you back here. I heard you had taken the old dirt nap, as they say in cheap gangster movies, and this is the first post from your post-resurrection reincarnation that I've seen.

Still following the B-52s? There's some interested new information on that, but the source is apparently verboten around here. PM me if you want details, and welcome back.

wp
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:24 PM
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3. The ball has been thrown
we're waiting for it to hit the target. As for that Oil law, it would mean the end of the war, but the Iraqi's won't willingly sign away their lives.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:27 PM
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5. I don't see the Oil Law getting signed either...
I think the hope that it would be signed is what has been staying the hawks hand until now.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:30 PM
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7. Even their hand-picked puppet gov't wouldn't sign the oil over
So hell freezing over comes to mind
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:24 PM
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4. I had the strangest conversation with a right-wing religious
nut yesterday. He carefully explained to me the enabling and recovery act established through bush's executive order. Then he went on to say what if we started dropping bombs on Iran and bush declared a national emergency. He explained how this would start WW III, and how bush would take control of the country through this act, stopping elections and all civil rights along the way. He said he honestly didn't believe that Americans would fight back. I was amazed. I've had very similar thoughts but I never combined it with a World War.

I just hope America proves him wrong.

This amendment seems to be getting closer to his scenario.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:38 PM
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10. Americans won't fight back
Bush has tested those waters many times.

In my gut I don't believe he'll leave office either, but I don't' know how he'll stay.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:39 PM
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11. I now fully agree with your RWer
Americans will not fight back

In the end, the US will probably fall apart and not survive this. These are the last gasps of the empire though.

What we have in front of us are very hard years and many of us will not live to see the other side
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:05 PM
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15. The religious whackos always scare me with their assessments of the situation.
"Well, it was all fortold; it's all right there in the Bible..."

Not any Bible I've read, anyway... :scared:
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:33 PM
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8. oh and martial law, cancelled elections and
president for life

ugh
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:41 PM
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13. I don't think so...here's why:
Edited on Wed Sep-26-07 01:42 PM by Junkdrawer
As the War grows, there will need to be a draft, War Bonds, domestic sacrifice, you know, the things that Ken Burns thinks made WWII so special.

Now, would anybody do those things with Bush in charge? There's not enough lipstick in the world to dress up that pig.

Now, if there are pockets of resistance to the War, martial law IS possible...
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:02 PM
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14. You forgot Blackwater
Mercs don't desert unless the money runs out. The money won't run out as we seize assets all over the world in the name of "fighting terrorism."

God, I hate living in Nazi Germany 2.0
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:06 PM
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16. If you need a few hundred or a few thousand well trained mercs...
Edited on Wed Sep-26-07 02:56 PM by Junkdrawer
willing to do ANYTHING, Blackwater is great.

But if you need armies with hundreds of thousands or millions of boots-on-the-ground, you need a Draft.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:31 PM
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18. The draft would be tempting for them
but consider economic conditions here in the US. If I needed to eat, I would seriously consider working for someone like Blackwater. I doubt I'm the only one, either.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:11 PM
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17. I'm sure this is Cheney's pipe dream that Webb was talking about..
I'm hoping you're wrong, but it's definitely in the realm of possibility unfortunately. That's the way things are setting up at this point.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:56 PM
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19. And this is what the Lieberman-Kyl vote was all about...
The initial cross border raids by the US are provocative. Many will (correctly) point to the raids as the beginning of the war and ask "Why wasn't the Senate consulted?"

And Bush/Cheney will simply point to the Lieberman/Kyl vote.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 12:38 PM
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20. Looks like Gary Hart agrees....
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