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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:17 PM
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My Sad Prediction
And I hope I am wrong.

Polls will indicate that the majority of Americans will support aggression toward Iran, however it is served up.

Bush & Co. prey upon our fears and prejudices; they obfuscate, exaggerate, inflate and denigrate.

People fall for it every time. The masses will fall for it, again.

I hope I am wrong.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:20 PM
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1. It's all falling into line. Even the Democrats in congress support war against Iran.
Bush has the Kyl/Lieberman amendment to prove it...
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:21 PM
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2. You're not wrong
I couldn't believe it when I saw people buying the same lies Bush used before, but it's happening all the same.

The mess at Columbia U. was a clear sign who runs the country- and it ain't us.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:32 PM
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8. word.
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againes654 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:22 PM
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3. Unfortunatly, you are correct
:nuke: :hide: :nuke:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:22 PM
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4. I'm afraid I wouldn't wager against that prediction n/t
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:25 PM
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5. The propaganda has gone into full throttle..
sadly, I think you're right.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:25 PM
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6. What's equally appalling is that they are using EXACTLY the same
tactics, lies, fear-mongering as was done in the run-up to the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq and, still, people are falling for it in increasing numbers.

Goebbels' strategy still works as well as it did when he used it in the 30's/40's.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:27 PM
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7. Erect bogeyman, wave flag, look somber, send in the bombers to "save" us.
Works every time.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 10:47 PM
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24. An age-old recipe. n/t
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nightrider767 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:33 PM
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9. Democrat aren't helping
If the Democrats in Congress could finally agree to take a stand on the war and not authorize another dime, America's mindset might change.

Illegal wire-tapping program? "Ahh, well we're against that, but since you ask,,, I guess,,, we say YES."

US troops in Iraq. "Well of course we're against the war,, you know,,, but we have to keep the funding coming"

The Democrats should be sending a strong message that everything Bush is doing that makes you feel safer is actually making you way more unsafe. And that they are fully ready to put not only their reputations, but careers on the line to promote a completely new course.

I think America is fully ready to turn away from the lies and the hypocrisy of this administration.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:29 PM
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17. Welcome to DU, nightrider767
:hi:
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nightrider767 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 12:41 AM
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26. Hey Thanks Man.
Nice to see some honest and fair political debate.

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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:34 PM
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10. I'm afraid you are spot-on. I hope to God we are both proven wrong. nt
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:35 PM
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11. Amazing how one small segment of US continuosly
holds the rest of the country hostage based on Nationalism
and Religion.

Your predictions is probably correct.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:35 PM
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12. Isn't Russert hosting a debate tonight? Hope so and that he asks
the candidates about this!!! One of the debates, no, I don't remember which one, all the candidates seemed like they could, if the circumstances were right for them individually, go into Iran...maybe, not Kucinich though. There's so much going on I'm sorry I can't keep my mind in any type of order!
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 01:43 PM
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13. The real capper happens when they get a trigger aka false flag incident.
wait for it. It will come in the form of something major at one of the bases in Iraq.

Perhaps like a 1 kiloton bomb. It's small enough to cause a mess, but not large enough to cause major damage.

And this will give moron* several things the first one being, the great, "I told you so", moment and the other the excuse he needs to use nukes, "they used them on us, I will use nukes on them!", then get all eye for an eye biblical on us.

before you can say, "oh my god" or "holy shit" or "we're fucked", Iran will be glowing.

all this could be solved by reasonable people, but we seem to be in short supply of those these days, let alone it would be nice to have a strong congress. You know like the ones who claimed to "drain the cesspool". sigh.

we don't live in a normal world anymore. damn straight things changed after 9/11, before that day, we had reasonable people willing see the big picture and understand the larger gray areas of the world, now we are run by a bunch of 3rd rate hack actors whose only virtue is their ability to convince the mouth breathers of this country that under every bed is a terrorist waiting for his chance to strike and take away our "freedoms". Yet, without another "terrorist" strike our freedoms have been taken away by the very people who pleaded to protect us.

Through the looking glass.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:03 PM
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14. It's a 'double or nothing' . . . .
. . . bet to save Bush's legacy.
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BonnieJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:04 PM
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15. This vote more than anything else
should alert everyone to Hillary. She said if she "knew then what I know now," she would never have given * the authority to invade Iraq. Well, she now knows, and she just gave * authority to wipe Iran off the map.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 02:33 PM
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16. Bad dream revisited.
Recurring nightmares are so upleasant.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:37 PM
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18. The message sent by we, the people last November has been ignored.
Woe.

IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 09:24 PM
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23. Ignored? Rejected with prejudice.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:56 PM
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19. Then I imagine those people will be signing on to the military
or encouraging there children to do so.

How else can an invasion of Iran be conducted?
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:58 PM
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20. My concern is they'll sign MY children up to do so. n/t
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:06 PM
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21. The Propaganda
has been especially hyped-up as of late. I fear you are correct.
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:11 PM
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22. Those polls are going to have to move a lot from 9/7
As of 9/7, support for war in Iran had steadily gone down.

http://www.pollingreport.com/iran.htm

I will be interested to see what polls say next week.
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ronnie624 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 12:05 AM
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25. With a major 'terrorist' incident in the US
Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 12:12 AM by ronnie624
or against US soldiers in Iraq, a furious barrage of propaganda could turn those numbers around with ease.

The percentages of 'should' answers are rather high (NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll) to the questions about whether the US should initiate military action against Iran, if they are "close to developing a nuclear weapon" or "if Iran is responsible for providing insurgents with technology being used in roadside bombs", 47% and 55%, respectively.

With the most powerful corporate entities in the US guaranteed to make huge profits off of war, and propaganda outlets owned by military contractors, my confidence in avoiding an attack is quite low. Add to that mix a populace that is easily manipulated by propaganda, and a congress that has already virtually granted permission to launch attacks against Iran, I think my pessimism is on firm footing.

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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 12:42 AM
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27. Poll numbers? Dude...
Why would they bother? Another big incident and this shit's on lockdown.

So.
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ronnie624 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 01:17 AM
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28. Your point eludes me.
Of course this "shit" would be "on lockdown" if there was another major incident.

Have you been posting under the influence again?
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 01:22 AM
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29. Yeah. Half a beer and a long day's work.
If the point eludes you, maybe you should study up...or drink more. Or something.

Posse Comitatus suspended.

Habeas Corpus suspended.

Red Alert...also called martial law.

Not much room for elections with all that.

Ergo, not much need for polls. Or politics.

'K?
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ronnie624 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 01:27 AM
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30. You have told me nothing
I don't already know, and I study plenty.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 07:37 PM
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31. ! Scary prediction. n/t
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 07:41 PM
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32. unfortunately,I agree,in a way
they need to keep feeding the fire,and Iran is the only way they "Might" be able to justify a draft.there's tons of money to be made over there yet y'know.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 08:17 PM
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33. And that scares the heck out of me, w8liftinglady
I've got 3 kids -- one coming up on draft age and the others a bit further behind. I think one of the reasons I started seeking out more info on Bush & Co. and what they might have in store for us stems from a horrible premonition that my kids will be sent off to war in their future.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-01-07 12:18 PM
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34. gotta support your team
facepainters unite!
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