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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:53 PM
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BREAKING: Kerry makes history


Kerry run the first PAC-donation-free senate race in the country's history

Kerry worked on the Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs

Kerry's report on Iran Contra.

Kerry's BCCI Investigation.

Kerry Amendments, also known as U.S. moneylaundering laws and sanctions.

Kerry worked to create the Cambodia tribunal to try members of the Khmer Rouge. His tribunal model have been used in other countries

Kerry wrote the original bill that became S-CHIP.

Kerry wrote the Duke Cunningham Act to hold members of Congress convicted of a felony accountable.

Kerry's famous question: How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake? Bruce Springsteen just wrote a song about it.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:58 PM
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1. And he even voted against the "let's have war with Iran" Kyl/Lieberman amendment.
Great post, Prosense.
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dickbearton Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 11:08 PM
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31. K&R.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:58 PM
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2. I will always proudly salute LT Kerry
and if I ever had to go back to a combat zone I'd want him by my side.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:11 PM
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10. Hey Boss
I am with you
Kerry is my choice all the way, and I wish he was running again
I know there are a few people that either blame him or dont like him here
but I dont care, he is awesome.
I met him in here in May 2004
:hi:


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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:14 PM
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11. I never had the pleasure to meet the Senator but he will always be my shipmate
something chickenhawks could not possibly comprehend.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 02:21 PM
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71. No higher praise.
n/t
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:20 PM
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87. indeed. n/t
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eagler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:21 PM
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88. amen
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:59 PM
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3. Bruce GETS the import of Kerry and his decades of effort for open government.
Thanks Boss.

Some efforts Dems have made to oppose the fascist machine are timeless.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:59 PM
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4. in my
world he is our president.

but we're living under occupation.

Great post-
recommended
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:03 PM
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5. Thank you again, ProSense,
for standing up for the reasons to be proud of John Kerry.

K&R.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:03 PM
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6. He also helped broker the first international agreement on acid rain
When he was Lt. Gov. of Massachusetts.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:06 PM
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9. His record on the environment is stellar! n/t
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:20 PM
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86. easily the best in the Senate
and a three-decades long track record to boot: he was endorsed, early, in fall 2003, by the League of Conservation Voters, an endorsement that was thoroughly earned, and most well-deserved. And he's still fighting for tne environment.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:11 AM
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95. Link for the acid rain information
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/editorials/articles/2004/10/17/kerry_for_president/

IN 1984, when he was still lieutenant governor of Massachusetts, John Kerry became interested in the emerging problem of acid rain. Some people mocked the idea of poisonous rain from the skies, but Kerry embarked on a fact-finding mission across Europe, where he saw the devastation of industrial pollution on the Black Forest in Germany and many historic buildings.
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He took the issue to a meeting of the six New England governors and the eastern Canadian premiers, resulting in the first international agreement on acid rain controls. The pact became a blueprint for the reauthorized Clean Air Act in 1990.


I meant to add this earlier but didn't get around to looking it up. Better late than never, though. :)
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:16 PM
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12. Started the country's first Rape Crisis center in the DA's office, too.
.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:19 PM
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13. Sent up first bill ever submitted in the senate specifically protecting gays.
Edited on Wed Sep-26-07 04:19 PM by blm
And testified publically for gays to be allowed to serve openly in the military in his efforts to STOP the Don't Ask, Don't Tell debacle.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:27 PM
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16. Co-sponsored Wellstone's Clean Campaign bill
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:30 PM
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17. Kerry wrote Clean Money, Clean Elections bill, and Wellstone joined him - surprisingly
only three other senators were even for that bill in 1997.

I wish it was resubmitted and done so in Wellstone's name.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:50 PM
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20. Good one:
The following year, a re-elected Kerry was in another lonely position as one of only five original sponsors of the Clean Money, Clean Elections Act, to provide for full public financing of Congressional elections. The measure would remove practically all special-interest money from House and Senate campaigns. (Kerry's colleagues were Wellstone, Leahy, John Glenn and Joe Biden--all Democrats.) "Kerry was totally into it," says Ellen Miller, former executive director of Public Campaign, a reform group pressing for the legislation. "He believes in this stuff."

In introducing the legislation, Kerry said on the Senate floor, "Special interest money is moving and dictating and governing the agenda of American politics.... If we want to regain the respect and confidence of the American people, and if we want to reconnect to them and reconnect them to our democracy, we have to get the special interest money out of politics." He was also a backer of the better-known McCain-Feingold legislation, a more modest and (some might say) problematic approach to campaign reform. But over the years he's pointed to the Clean Money, Clean Elections Act as the real reform. "It is a tough position in Congress to be for dramatic change in financing elections," says Miller. "It's gutsy to go out and say, 'Let's provide a financially leveled playing field so there is more competition for incumbents.' Kerry and Wellstone were the leaders and took a giant step. It was remarkable."

link


The 81-page PDF here:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:57 PM
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21. And Joe Biden, hmmm n/t
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 05:00 PM
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22. Yep - Biden has always had his good moments.
I think he really believes in public financing, but gets tossed into the DLC crowd because of his state's dependence on banking industry.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:05 PM
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7. Thanks, Kerry is a wonderful Senator!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 01:02 PM
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59. We even elected him President. Oh, well.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:05 PM
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8. Thank you, ProSense
John Kerry is my president.
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nam78_two Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:21 PM
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14. Thanks I wish he was my senator.nt
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 03:10 AM
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36. Me too. We have David Vitter.
:eyes:

Vitter earmarks funds for religious group
Nonprofit supports creationist education
Sunday, September 23, 2007
By Bill Walsh

WASHINGTON -- Sen. David Vitter, R-La., earmarked $100,000 in a spending bill for a Louisiana Christian group that has challenged the teaching of Darwinian evolution in the public school system and to which he has political ties.

The money is included in the labor, health and education financing bill for fiscal 2008 and specifies payment to the Louisiana Family Forum "to develop a plan to promote better science education."

The earmark appears to be the latest salvo in a decades-long battle over science education in Louisiana, in which some Christian groups have opposed the teaching of evolution and, more recently, have pushed to have it prominently labeled as a theory with other alternatives presented. Educators and others have decried the movement as a backdoor effort to inject religious teachings into the classroom.

The nonprofit Louisiana Family Forum, launched in Baton Rouge in 1999 by former state Rep. Tony Perkins, has in recent years taken the lead in promoting "origins science," which includes the possibility of divine intervention in the creation of the universe.

The group's stated mission is to "persuasively present biblical principles in the centers of influence on issues affecting the family through research, communication and networking." Until recently, its Web site contained a "battle plan to combat evolution," which called the theory a "dangerous" concept that "has no place in the classroom." The document was removed after a reporter's inquiry.

(snip)

http://www.nola.com/timespic/stories/index.ssf?/base/news-9/1190529501310280.xml&coll=1




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BRB_TheFireball Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 10:53 AM
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48. What is the Louisiana Family Forum's stance on wearing diapers while snogging a hooker? n/t
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:25 PM
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15. His real record is outstanding, but all most know is the Swiftboating...
Fuck you, George W. Bush.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:32 PM
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18. The fascists didn't buy control of the broadcast media in the 80s and 90s so the public
could hear and learn the truth about ANYTHING.

Especially the truth about anyone from the anti-corruption, open government wing of the Democratic party.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 04:36 PM
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19. John Kerry is my President. I am so proud of him.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 07:01 PM
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25. Can you imagine...
Gore... then Kerry... the way it was supposed to be?

I'm getting dizzy just thinking...
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 07:21 PM
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26. I still get sick thinking about what should have been...
He is the one who should be occupying the WH.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 06:18 PM
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23. Please add Kerry's list of outstanding matters in BCCI - especially w/war in Iran and Chinese
Edited on Wed Sep-26-07 06:23 PM by blm
powerbrokers holding so much influence over our economy at this point.

Odd that Jackson Stephens, AQ Khan and Marc Rich all seem to pop up regularly over the last few decades.

It is PLAIN TO SEE That a 9-11 event never should have happened - these operations should have been fully exposed.

Just read the 20 questions left unanswered, and it is apparent that had they been a priority for ANY administration, a 9-11 event would never have happened, and NO BUSH would ever be even allowed near the White House.


Matters For Further Investigation

There have been a number of matters which the Subcommittee has received some information on, but has not been able to investigate adequately, due such factors as lack of resources, lack of time, documents being withheld by foreign governments, and limited evidentiary sources or witnesses. Some of the main areas which deserve further investigation include:


1. The extent of BCCI's involvement in Pakistan's nuclear program. As set forth in the chapter on BCCI in foreign countries, there is good reason to conclude that BCCI did finance Pakistan's nuclear program through the BCCI Foundation in Pakistan, as well as through BCCI-Canada in the Parvez case. However, details on BCCI's involvement remain unavailable. Further investigation is needed to understand the extent to which BCCI and Pakistan were able to evade U.S. and international nuclear non-proliferation regimes to acquire nuclear technologies.


2. BCCI's manipulation of commodities and securities markets in Europe and Canada. The Subcommittee has received information that remains not fully substantiated that BCCI defrauded investors, as well as some major U.S. and European financial firms, through manipulating commodities and securities markets, especially in Canada, the Netherlands, and Luxembourg. This alleged fraud requires further investigation in those countries.


3. BCCI's activities in India, including its relationship with the business empire of the Hinduja family. The Subcommittee has not had access to BCCI records regarding India. The substantial lending by BCCI to the Indian industrialist family, the Hindujas, reported in press accounts, deserves further scrutiny, as do the press reports concerning alleged kick-backs and bribes to Indian officials.


4. BCCI's relationships with convicted Iraqi arms dealer Sarkis Soghanalian, Syrian drug trafficker, terrorist, and arms trafficker Monzer Al-Kassar, and other major arms dealers. Sarkenalian was a principal seller of arms to Iraq. Monzer Al-Kassar has been implicated in terrorist bombings in connection with terrorist organizations such as the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine. Other arms dealers, including some who provided machine guns and trained Medellin cartel death squads, also used BCCI. Tracing their assets through the bank would likely lead to important information concerning international terrorist and arms trafficker networks.


5. The use of BCCI by central figures in arms sales to Iran during the 1980's. The late Cyrus Hashemi, a key figure in allegations concerning an alleged deal involving the return of U.S. hostages from Iran in 1980, banked at BCCI London. His records have been withheld from disclosure to the Subcommittee by a British judge. Their release might aid in reaching judgments concerning Hashemi's activities in 1980, with the CIA under President Carter and allegedly with William Casey.


6. BCCI's activities with the Central Bank of Syria and with the Foreign Trade Mission of the Soviet Union in London. BCCI was used by both the Syrian and Soviet governments in the period in which each was involved in supporting activities hostile to the United States. Obtaining the records of those financial transactions would be critical to understanding what the Soviet Union under Brezhnev, Chernenko, and Andropov was doing in the West; and might document the nature and extent of Syria's support for international terrorism.


7. BCCI's involvement with foreign intelligence agencies. A British source has told the Bank of England and British investigators that BCCI was used by numerous foreign intelligence agencies in the United Kingdom. The British intelligence service, the MI-5, has sealed documents from BCCI's records in the UK which could shed light on this allegation.


8. The financial dealings of BCCI directors with Charles Keating and several Keating affiliates and front-companies, including the possibility that BCCI related entities may have laundered funds for Keating to move them outside the United States. The Subcommittee found numerous connections among Keating and BCCI-related persons and entities, such as BCCI director Alfred Hartman; CenTrust chief David Paul and CenTrust itself; Capcom front-man Lawrence Romrell; BCCI shipping affiliate, the Gokal group and the Gokal family; and possibly Ghaith Pharaon. The ties between BCCI and Keating's financial empire require further investigation.


9. BCCI's financing of commodities and other business dealings of international criminal financier Marc Rich. Marc Rich remains the most important figure in the international commodities markets, and remains a fugitive from the United States following his indictment on securities fraud. BCCI lending to Rich in the 1980's amounted to tens of millions of dollars. Moreover, Rich's commodities firms were used by BCCI in connection with BCCI's involving in U.S. guarantee programs through the Department of Agriculture. The nature and extent of Rich's relationship with BCCI requires further investigation.


10. The nature, extent and meaning of the ownership of shares of other U.S. financial institutions by Middle Eastern political figures. Political figures and members of the ruling family of various Middle Eastern countries have very substantial investments in the United States, in some cases, owning substantial shares of major U.S. banks. Given BCCI's routine use of nominees from the Middle East, and the pervasive practice of using nominees within the Middle East, further investigation may be warranted of Middle Eastern ownership of domestic U.S. financial institutions.


11. The nature, extent, and meaning of real estate and financial investments in the United States by major shareholders of BCCI. BCCI's shareholders and front-men have made substantial investments in real estate throughout the United States, owning major office buildings in such key cities as New York and Washington, D.C. Given BCCI's pervasiveness criminality, and the role of these shareholders and front-men in the BCCI affair, a complete review of their holdings in the United States is warranted.


12. BCCI's collusion in Savings & Loan fraud in the U.S. The Subcommittee found ties between BCCI and two failed Savings and Loan institutions, CenTrust, which BCCI came to have a controlling interest in, and Caprock Savings and Loan in Texas, and as noted above, the involvement of BCCI figures with Charles Keating and his business empire. In each case, BCCI's involvement cost the U. S. taxpayers money. A comprehensive review of BCCI's account holders in the U.S. and globally might well reveal additional such cases. In addition, the issue of whether David Paul and CenTrust's political relationships were used by Paul on behalf of BCCI merits further investigation.


13. The sale of BCCI affiliate Banque de Commerce et de Placements (BCP) in Geneva, to the Cukorova Group of Turkey, which owned an entity involved in the BNL Iraqi arms sales, among others. Given BNL's links to BCCI, and Cukorova Groups' involvement through its subsidiary, Entrade, with BNL in the sales to Iraq, the swift sale of BCP to Cukorova just weeks after BCCI's closure -- prior to due diligence being conducted -- raises questions as to whether a prior relationship existed between BCCI and Cukorova, and Cukorova's intentions in making the purchase. Within the past year, Cukorova also applied to purchase a New York bank. Cukorova's actions pertaining to BCP require further investigation in Switzerland by Swiss authorities, and by the Federal Reserve New York.


14. BCCI's role in China. As noted in the chapter on BCCI's activities in foreign countries, BCCI had extensive activity in China, and the Chinese government allegedly lost $500 million when BCCI closed, mostly from government accounts. While there have been allegations that bribes and pay-offs were involved, these allegations require further investigation and detail to determine what actually happened, and who was involved.


15. The relationship between Capcom and BCCI, between Capcom and the intelligence community, and between Capcom's shareholders and U.S. telecommunications industry figures. The Subcommittee was able to interview people and review documents concerning Capcom that no other investigators had to date interviewed or reviewed. Much more needs to be done to understand what Capcom was doing in the United States, the United Kingdom, Egypt, Oman, and the Middle East, including whether the firm was, as has been alleged but not proven, used by the intelligence community to move funds for intelligence operations; and whether any person involved with Capcom was seeking secretly to acquire interests in the U.S. telecommunications industry.


16. The relationship of important BCCI figures and important intelligence figures to the collapse of the Hong Kong Deposit and Guaranty Bank and Tetra Finance (HK) in 1983. The circumstances surrounding the collpase of these two Hong Kong banks; the Hong Kong banks' practices of using nominees, front-companies, and back-to-back financial transactions; the Hong Banks' directors having included several important BCCI figures, including Ghanim Al Mazrui, and a close associate of then CIA director William Casey; all raise the question of whether there was a relationship between these two institutions and BCCI-Hong Kong, and whether the two Hong Kong institutions were used for domestic or foreign intelligence operations.


17. BCCI's activities in Atlanta and its acquisition of the National Bank of Georgia through First American. Although the Justice Department indictments of Clark Clifford and Robert Altman cover portions of how BCCI acquired National Bank of Georgia, other important allegations regarding the possible involvement of political figures in Georgia in BCCI's activities there remain outside the indictment. These allegations, as well as the underlying facts regarding BCCI's activities in Georgia, require further investigation.


18. The relationship between BCCI and the Banca Nazionale del Lavoro. BCCI and the Atlanta Branch of BNL had an extensive relationship in the United States, with the Atlanta Branch of BNL having a substantial number of accounts in BCCI's Miami offices. BNL was, according to federal indictments, a significant financial conduit for weapons to Iraq. BCCI also made loans to Iraq, although of a substantially smaller nature. Given the criminality of both institutions, and their interlocking activities, further investigation of the relationship could produce further understanding of Saddam Hussein's international network for acquiring weapons, and how Iraq evaded governmental restrictions on such weapons acquisitions.


19. The alleged relationship between the late CIA director William Casey and BCCI. As set forth in the chapter on intelligence, numerous trails lead from BCCI to Casey, and from Casey to BCCI, and the investigation has been unable to follow any of them to the end to determine whether there was indeed a relationship, and if there was, its nature and extent. If any such relationship existed, it could have a significant impact on the findings and conclusions concerning the CIA and BCCI's role in U.S. foreign policy and intelligence operations during the Casey era. The investigation's work detailing the ties of BCCI to the intelligence community generally also remains far from complete, and much about these ties remains obscure and in need of further investigation.


20. Money laundering by other major international banks. Numerous BCCI officials told the Subcommittee that BCCI's money laundering was no different from activities they observed at other international banks, and provided the names of a number of prominent U.S. and European banks which they alleged engaged in money laundering. There is no question that BCCI's laundering of drug money, while pervading the institution, constituted a small component of the total money laundering taking place in international banking. Further investigation to determine which international banks are soliciting and handling drug money should be undertaken.




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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 06:58 PM
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24. I've grown to love John Kerry, and I can't wait to hear the Bruce song.
:hi:
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 07:22 PM
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27. K & R.
My vote for John Kerry was the proudest of my life. I'd do it again in a heartbeat if given the chance.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:24 PM
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89. Same here -
and I first voted for McGovern. Gary Hart was the only other person I was as convinced could be an exceptional President. I had gotten used to voting for people, whose obvious flaws I could see. It hurts not to be as impressed this time.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 07:36 PM
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28. K&R
:kick:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 09:37 PM
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29. Kick!
Thanks for the nice comments and recs!
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 11:07 PM
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30. Thanks for putting this together! n/t
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NoGodsNoMasters Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 11:20 PM
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32. Very nice...
I'm still amazed that the republicans were able to smear Kerry's military history while supporting a draft dodger. Well, we all know they're crazy...
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losthills Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 12:12 AM
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33. He should be running for president....
Because our party is going to lose in '08 if Hilary is the nominee.
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Goat52a Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 02:43 AM
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34. again who cares
Past is past. No one supported John... The Democrats seem so weak now it makes my heart burst...
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dlawbailey Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 02:58 AM
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35. And Kerry Is No Longer A War Hero. "No-Combat" Petraues Is.

Figure that out.

Here's a guy who has the Bronze Star for Valor and the much-higher and rarer Silver Star for valor in combat, and his combat valor is trashed.

Meanhile, Petraeus who entered combat for the first time as a 54-year-old Major General who never fired his weapon at the enemy (except maybe for "fun") and had BODYGUARDS - this guy they give a Bronze Star for Valor to.

It's an absolute outrage.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/9/19/22357/9565

Bastards.
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bananarepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:12 AM
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41. ''Betrayus'' got his Purple Heart from a paper cut! n/t
Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 06:13 AM by bananarepublican
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 10:21 AM
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47. Hi dlawbailey...
Great first post.

Welcome to DU. :hi:
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 05:37 PM
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81. Excuse me
It is not and he is no better then the idiots who wore purple band-aids at the RNC. Go tell Dennis Kucinich what a great post it was, I'm sure he would vehemently disagree.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 05:48 PM
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84. What... you think I worship Kucinich and wish to emulate everything he does?
Are you for real?

Fine... you don't like his post... respond to him about it, not me. Fucksake...
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 07:08 PM
Response to Reply #84
90. Whatever
You agreed to it, that in itself deserved a response. EOM
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 10:07 AM
Response to Reply #90
94. Yup... "whatever" is the right answer!
Goes for me too!

Peace.

:hi:
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #35
63. Sorry but your post has no place in this thread.
We don't question the medals of those in the military for political reasons. I told you on Kos, and I'm telling you now. Two wrongs don't make a right.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 04:23 AM
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37. First Senator to marry not just one, but two millionaires
Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 04:33 AM by Apollo11
First Senator to continue answering a question while the person who asked the question was being tasered at the back of the room.

Maybe they should put Kerry's face on Mount Rushmore? :eyes:

PS - My point is - nobody's perfect. But seriously - good luck to the guy.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 12:36 PM
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52. Two BEAUTIFUL and NICE millionaires.
Hmmm, that they would both find something to love in a guy with "blue blood" heritage but very little in actual material assets.

Also interesting that the first wife and her family remained friends with Kerry, and she even stuck up for him against the Swift Liars, despite their split.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 05:33 AM
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38. He is the outstanding best and the last of a breed. We've lost our way as a party and a country.
Recommend.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 05:57 AM
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39. After seeing that last debate, he is sounding good again.
I am thinking of moving back to a write-in candidate.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:02 AM
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40. Many 9/11 Truthers repeat the Swiftboat lies about Kerry. Alex Jones even called Kerry a "traitor."
Edited on Thu Sep-27-07 06:03 AM by Perry Logan
Just to let you know that the "Truthers" are not our friends.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 07:02 AM
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42. This is definitely worthy of greatest thread status
Thank you Mr elected President .
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Pawel K Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 08:42 AM
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43. Great guy. K&R
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 08:46 AM
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44. Heh. All in a day's work for JK. K&R.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 08:49 AM
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45. Wonderful compilation
and especially wonderful guy! Thanks.
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 09:48 AM
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46. IMHO, he's my president too.
Thanks for putting together this compilation
of his achievements.

It's nice to hear the positives, for a change.

:hi:

K&R
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 11:19 AM
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49. Kerry was one of the 1st to propose Timetables in late 2005
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 11:37 AM
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50. k&r!
I can't believe some of the silliness I've seen on DU this week. Thank you for this excellent OP!
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Unbowed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 12:32 PM
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51. Kerry is tops in my book
Always has been.

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Forrest Greene Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 12:43 PM
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53. But He Lay Down & Died
...when they stole the election from him.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 12:55 PM
Response to Reply #53
57. You too,
pay the facts a visit.
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iilana X Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 12:55 PM
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58. He looks pretty alive to me...especially when viewed in contrast to those other senators who cave in
to republicans every week. Nah,Kerry didn't lay down or die. All he conceeded was an office that there was no chance of claiming despite the frauds. He's never conceeded the fight. That's what I like about him. In January of 2007, Kerry was in Iraq to assess the situation for himself. He's been fighting to end the war ever since. Comments like yours do nothing to help anyone or anything.

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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 01:31 PM
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62. He's been kickin' a**
Much more than Gore did.

And if you mean the choice to concede - there was a huge difference in the situations; in 2000 it was obviously, provably stolen - but the SC decision trumped the proof - then when called to protest the death of democracy in America, VERY few Americans did. (I did, and was blown away by the apathy. That's another page long rant though.)

Fast forward to 2004, with Kerry losing the popular vote, (Gore won popular vote, remember), behind in the pivotal state, Ohio, by over 120,000 votes, and not nearly enough provisionals to make it up. If the fraud allegations had panned out the concession speech wouldn't have mattered, and KE04's lawyers stayed involved, trying to get somewhere with the evidence of fraud.

So to say Kerry "lay down and died" is just wrong. And anyway, America proved in 2000 that we would lay down and accept whatever undemocratic thing happened anyway. Gore couldn't lead out of that apathy - and after the SC decision he didn't even try - and now he is lionized here. I don't understand why people bash Kerry - he did the best he could with a lousy deal.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 12:43 PM
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54. Ahh...ProSense and his sisyphean task of trying to shore up a boring loser.
Kerry should stay in the Senate where he can perform these "great works" and not SCREW-UP and capitulate another Presidential election.

J
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 12:53 PM
Response to Reply #54
55. I'm so glad the majority here don't see it that way.
;-)
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 12:55 PM
Response to Reply #54
56. Here,
some facts for you. I even kicked the thread so you couldn't miss it.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 01:09 PM
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60. The screw up was Terry McAuliffe and his stewardship of the sit-on-hands DNC
that refused to secure the election process.

Kerry WON his matchups. RNC had to steal it for Bush. DNC let them do it.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 02:08 PM
Response to Reply #54
69. Looks like no one on DU agrees with you, thank God
I'll take John Kerry - an American HERO who has been fighting the good fight for 40 years - over an internet loser making drive by posts in his underwear.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 05:39 PM
Response to Reply #69
82. Spot on n/t
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 10:33 PM
Response to Reply #69
93. LOL! Well said n/t
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 01:17 PM
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61. Wow! Excellent post ProSense.
Thanks for reminding us of just some of the things JK has done for us.

Congratulations! You truly live up to your handle. Unfortunately, there are always going to be one or two folks who are sadly immune to sense. You are to be lauded for continuing to reach the obtuse and the unknowledgeable, but alas, not everyone can think as clearly as you can write.


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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 01:38 PM
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64. I was hoping he'd admitted he'd given the election away on purpose
:shrug:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 01:41 PM
Response to Reply #64
65. Wrong thread!
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 01:51 PM
Response to Reply #65
67. In your opinion.
:shrug:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 01:58 PM
Response to Reply #67
68. I gave you a link to a thread about the election. Why are you afraid of it? n/t
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 02:18 PM
Response to Reply #68
70. Is that a taser in your pocket or are you just glad to see me?
He gave the election away. Nothing in any of those links prove otherwise. He won and still walked away without even TRYING to fight.

:shrug:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 02:54 PM
Response to Reply #70
73. Taser?
I see you have issues unrelated to this thread or the election!

Still refusing to post in the thread relating to the election, huh?
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 04:36 PM
Response to Reply #73
80. These issues apparently revolve around disruption and thread-hijacking.
It's a shame. Your post on the election had too many facts to dispute. It's so much easier complain than read. :sarcasm:

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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 01:46 PM
Response to Reply #64
66. Why would you hope for him to lie like that?
Thankfully, instead he's busy trying to use his voice and vote to help people:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/9/27/125917/038
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 02:50 PM
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72. Yeah and Kerry didn't verify EVERY vote like he promised to do.
No recommendation here from me.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 02:55 PM
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74. Here's a recommendation from me:
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 03:00 PM
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76. k&r
:kick:
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 04:07 PM
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79. For the record, I gave him every chance until I finally realized it was game over when he condeded.
And I'm talking several months after the fact.
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Dystopian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 02:59 PM
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75. Fantastic post, thank you so very much..... k&r
I love John Kerry, and am so thankful that he's my senator...
I knew he was going to win when I voted...
The stolen election was the great American tradgedy...


peace~

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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 03:16 PM
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77. Yes he is a good, if not great senator.
and I have so far voted for him every time he has run for anything, but sadly now will only vote for him in future runs for the senate and he can count on that. He is my senator and I am proud of him.
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hibiscus Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 03:56 PM
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78. Good thread. K & R
I still wish I can have him as my President Kerry!

:patriot:
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MODemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 05:46 PM
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83. John Kerry is a great American, and a wonderful human being
I wanted him to be my President so badly, it was really a downer when the election was handed to Bush
for the second time; and John Kerry didn't get to occupy the office he was elected for. He's been a
good Senator IMHO.:thumbsup: :loveya:
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 06:14 PM
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85. yeah, you said it! And thanks for the OP, Prosense n/t
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 07:32 PM
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91. Wonderful post! It is about integrity, honesty and being true to the public and yourself.
Senator Kerry is someone to look up to and emulate.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-27-07 10:13 PM
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92. kick n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 12:46 PM
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96. Kick!
Thanks for all the recs and comments!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-28-07 06:55 PM
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97. Kick! n/t
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-29-07 04:49 PM
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98. kick n/t
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