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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 11:09 PM
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Krugman: Gore Derangement Syndrome
On the day after Al Gore shared the Nobel Peace Prize, The Wall Street Journal’s editors couldn’t even bring themselves to mention Mr. Gore’s name. Instead, they devoted their editorial to a long list of people they thought deserved the prize more.

And at National Review Online, Iain Murray suggested that the prize should have been shared with “that well-known peace campaigner Osama bin Laden, who implicitly endorsed Gore’s stance.” You see, bin Laden once said something about climate change — therefore, anyone who talks about climate change is a friend of the terrorists.

What is it about Mr. Gore that drives right-wingers insane?

Partly it’s a reaction to what happened in 2000, when the American people chose Mr. Gore but his opponent somehow ended up in the White House. Both the personality cult the right tried to build around President Bush and the often hysterical denigration of Mr. Gore were, I believe, largely motivated by the desire to expunge the stain of illegitimacy from the Bush administration.

And now that Mr. Bush has proved himself utterly the wrong man for the job — to be, in fact, the best president Al Qaeda’s recruiters could have hoped for — the symptoms of Gore derangement syndrome have grown even more extreme.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/15/opinion/15krugman.html?hp
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 11:16 PM
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1. Gotta Love That Last Part !!!
<snip>

So if science says that we have a big problem that can’t be solved with tax cuts or bombs — well, the science must be rejected, and the scientists must be slimed. For example, Investor’s Business Daily recently declared that the prominence of James Hansen, the NASA researcher who first made climate change a national issue two decades ago, is actually due to the nefarious schemes of — who else? — George Soros.

Which brings us to the biggest reason the right hates Mr. Gore: in his case the smear campaign has failed. He’s taken everything they could throw at him, and emerged more respected, and more credible, than ever. And it drives them crazy.

<snip>

Link: same article

:bounce::rofl::bounce:

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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 11:29 PM
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8. Meanwhile, * Took Everything He Could And Emerged
more ignorant and less intelligible than ever. And he wouldn't even let them have that beer with him.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 08:22 AM
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20. That last paragraph stuck in my head as well. Gotta love anyone who "drives them crazy".
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FREEWILL56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 10:42 PM
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55. The truth drives them crazy
and he just reminds them of the truth.
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eyepaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 11:18 AM
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33. I read the column before I checked your response
and yes, I could tell which part you were talking about.

Touche' Mr (Dr?) Krugman! :)
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frebrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 11:16 PM
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2. K&R n/m
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 11:17 PM
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3. Bravo to Mr. Krugman! He got it absolutely right. NT
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simpleone Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 10:21 PM
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54. I agree
My aunt mabus and uncle Admiral Loinpresser said to say :hi:
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 11:18 PM
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4. Which brings us to the biggest reason the right hates Mr. Gore ...
"Which brings us to the biggest reason the right hates Mr. Gore: in his case the smear campaign has failed. He’s taken everything they could throw at him, and emerged more respected, and more credible, than ever. And it drives them crazy."

:rofl::rofl::rofl:



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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 11:19 PM
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5. It's Guilt, Remorse, and Fear of Retribution
Edited on Sun Oct-14-07 11:25 PM by Demeter
Their little "gentlemen's agreement" is now openly discussed on the Internet, if not yet the MSM, their little "gentlemen's clubs" are being laid waste as corruption and influence peddlers go to jail, their little "gentlemen's contracts" are turning out to be dry wells that will eat up all their ill-gotten goods as the mortgage fraud melts away like the Polar ice cap, and hedge funds and the dollar itself crumble to dust.

It's not a good time to be a bad guy, not any more. The limits have been reached. There is nothing left to steal, and no one to steal it from, except the crooks and their stolen wealth.


Upon further reflection:

Krugman explains the entire faith-based fallacy of the GOP in one sentence:

"So if science says that we have a big problem that can’t be solved with tax cuts or bombs — well, the science must be rejected, and the scientists must be slimed."

That's what happens when one is sold on a solution that doesn't line up with the problem, from women's need to control their fertility, to climate change. Science starts with observation and works to a model and makes conclusions from it.

Idiots start with a gut feeling, and try to bend the world to fit.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 11:21 PM
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6. Shhhh. The NSA is listening ! Gotta run. Hide the Almanacs ...
Edited on Sun Oct-14-07 11:23 PM by EVDebs
POTENTIAL TERRORIST USE OF ALMANACS
http://cryptome.org/fbi-almanacs.htm

They have lost their minds and shredded the Constitution.
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lolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 11:29 PM
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7. Explains their hatred for Clinton, too
Actually, of both Bill and Hillary

They all thought they'd beaten him into submission when they found that silly blue dress.

All the networks were predicting he'd resign within the week. He was done, he could never stay in the presidency--they were all sooooo sure they'd won

But he stayed in and ended with fabulous approval ratings--their hatred exploded exponentially at that point.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 06:38 AM
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15. And by staying in the Presidency, he *ASSURED* that we'd have...
And by staying in the Presidency, he *ASSURED* that
we'd have President Bush and *NOT* President Gore.

We'd have been far better off if he'd resigned.

Tesha
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 08:31 AM
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21. So, the "blue dress" should have been the path to succession of a Gore presidency?
I don't think so.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 08:41 AM
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23. It would have been better than handing the keys to the White House...
Edited on Mon Oct-15-07 09:14 AM by Tesha
It would have been better than handing the keys
to the White House to the Republicans on a silver
campaign issue.

Tesha
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 08:51 AM
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25. the 2000 race was *not* decided by the ejaculate-electorate ... eom
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:15 AM
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27. An incumbent Al Gore would have been unbeatable. (NT)
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:45 AM
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28. He "met you halfway" by putting Joe Lieberman on the ticket
How did that work out?
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:55 AM
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31. Again, I ask, "Who do you think I am?"
> He "met you halfway" by putting Joe Lieberman on the ticket

Again, I ask, "Who do you think I am?"

I despise Joe Lieberman and didn't think very kindly
of him in 2000, either!

Tesha
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dickbearton Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 06:59 PM
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50. Tesha, you are confused...
The keys were not handed to the Criminal Bush, the keys were
stolen by the Criminal Republican Party.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 08:43 AM
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24. That's Speculation, Not Fact
And if history is anything to go on (Nixon/Ford) it's also incorrect.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:56 AM
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32. The Nixon saga was quite different. Actual laws were broken. (NT)
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 12:17 PM
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36. Oh, Well That's Different, Then
PS - Al Gore Jr. *won* the 2000 election - without Bill Clinton stepping down.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 01:19 PM
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41. He won it by a small-enough margin to steal it right back.
This factoid (that Gore won) seems pretty damned irrelevant
seven years out. And if he really did win it, why was *NO
DEMOCRATIC SENATOR* willingto stand in the well of Senate
and support that concept when the Congressional Black Caucus
came calling?

Tesha
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 11:30 PM
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9. cause their little scum bag murderer is hated worldwide..more so than Osama..
and Al Gore is loved and respected world wide..

haters live to hate..and they are pathetic haters!!

they are small sniveling losers..just like little lord pissy pants is..they know damn well he had to steal 2 elections..in order to fuck up the USA and the world!!

fly
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 11:40 PM
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10. They wouldn't be deranged if Al wasn't a potent force
S'all good. Derange away -- their blood pressure, not mine.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 01:04 AM
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11. "drives right-wingers insane?" That's not a drive. Not even a short putt.
It's a gimme. :shrug:
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dickbearton Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 07:20 PM
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51. Exactly, you can't drive them insane, they are already insane. Right-wing nuts all.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 01:54 AM
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12. Krugman gets it. So does Somerby
Hopefully this spreads to the Washington press corps someday. Kit Seelye and Ceci Connelly will never understand, I'd wager.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 02:45 PM
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43. I just read Somerby and he is complaining about Krugman
Okay, then I read Krugman and Weintraub and Gitlin before coming to DU.

I can see Somerby's complaint. Krugman claims that the hatred of Gore comes from "wanting to make Bush more legitimate as President" and he also claims it is partisan - Republican hatred of Gore.

What that misses is the war that started on Gore in 1999, and it was waged by alot of people, who supposedly are not even Republicans. It was waged by the So-Called Liberal Media - the New York Times, The Boston Globe, the Washington Post. It was even abetted by "The Nation". The motherfu$%ing Nation!!! Of all magazines! :wtf:

Alexander Cockburn wrote a piece sliming Gore in October of 2000, and Katrina waved it into print. Cockburn was still doing it about three months ago, when he trashed not only Gore, who he said was owned by the TVA, but also the very idea of global warming which he compared a fundamentalist religion.

As Somerby points out today and a month ago, even Bob Herbert, who is usually excellent and reliably liberal, took a turn at bashing Gore in October of 2000. So did our darling Arianna Huffington. Although she has switched sides, she still glosses over her own conduct in election 2000. Kit and Ceci will never "understand" because they are decorated veterans of the war on Gore. As that war was engaged in by a Confederacy of A$$holes, Kit and Ceci were probably awarded Medals of Honor by that Confederacy.
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road2000 Donating Member (995 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 04:26 PM
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45. Bob Herbert Link?
Do you have a link to a Bob Herbert column bashing Gore? I don't recall that. I hate to think Herbert participated in the pile-on.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 05:53 PM
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48. check today's Daily Howler. Somerby quotes it extensively
Edited on Mon Oct-15-07 05:55 PM by hfojvt
http://www.dailyhowler.com/

edit: okay, I guess you need the http
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 02:46 AM
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13. They fear Gore will run for president.
They know he would beat Hillary in the primaries and destroy the repuke candidate in the general election.


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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 03:36 AM
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14. And I fear he won't
run. It is looking less likely every day. I hope I am wrong.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 08:52 AM
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26. I agree.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 12:56 PM
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40. Gore is "The One"
No kidding either. :P

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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 06:45 AM
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16. Krugman nails it again!
Thanks for posting!
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 11:43 AM
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35. the OBL comparison works about everywhere else for the Neo-fascists
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 07:19 AM
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17. i live in tn. and the letters to the editor show how fucking ignorant some tennesseans are
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 07:23 AM
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18. I Was Out of Town When the News Came Down About the Nobel
Got back late last night, and this morning did a Google news search on 'al gore.'

Results came up with about a 9:1 ratio of anti-Gore editorials to news articles about the win.

What the fuck?

"Gore Derangement Syndrome," indeed.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 07:37 AM
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19. Gore speaks about responsibility and humanity
Two words that drive any good Corporatist into a frenzy. The mere idea of being responsible for one's actions is enough to do the job. But to add humanity into the mix going too far. Surely that is clear to any uncaring profit driven sociopath.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 08:40 AM
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22. A terrific column
And while I don't think Gore drives these people nuts just by being correct, the Right just goes nuts as a matter of course. Krugman's depiction of Gore as the anti-Bush is spot on. Seven years after the Supreme Court stole the election of the president and handed the White House to the Republicans on the dubious legal premise that the constitutional right of paper ballots to equal treatment trumped voters' rights to have their votes counted, it's become clear that this was a disastrous slope, and our country has been slipping away ever since. The oligarchs truly fear the citizenry, and if we ever took to the streets as we should, they'd use up all their bullets eliminating their enemies, only to be overwhelmed in the end anyway.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:46 AM
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29. Like I always say, moron* is the anti-Gore. nt
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:51 AM
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30. Great article. Thank you for posting it.
Cheers
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 11:39 AM
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34. I LOVE the last paragraph of the article:
Which brings us to the biggest reason the right hates Mr. Gore: in his case the smear campaign has failed. He’s taken everything they could throw at him, and emerged more respected, and more credible, than ever. And it drives them crazy.

RUN, GORE, RUN! Drive them completely INSANE!:bounce:
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Iwillnevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 12:19 PM
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37. Yesterday I was reflecting on
how many people are so comfortable stating somewhat angrily, "Gore won't run." A friend and I were collecting petition signatures to get his name on the California primary ballot. We reminded them that Al Gore himself has not stated as such, and that we were trying to demonstrate to him that he has legions of supporters who would work for him, send him money and vote for him. Some said "O.K., I'll sign," others said, "No way." My friend and I wrote them off as Republicans.
And we'll keep on keepin' on!
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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 12:20 PM
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38. K&R for KRugman
Damn, he cuts right to the heart of it!
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 12:33 PM
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39. Krugman nailed the gore-haters. This is EXACTLY what's going on.
:kick:
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 01:45 PM
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42. K & R
:kick:
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dogindia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 03:05 PM
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44. ray AL ray.
ray ray ray of hope. is that hurrraaayyyyy?
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codjh9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 04:43 PM
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46. He is SO correct, and the nuts are SO f-ing NUTS! n/t
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 05:21 PM
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47. why does the right have such insane hatred of President Gore
who has humbled their bastard child bush?
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sweetladybug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 06:38 PM
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49. samsingh, the answer is simple. The right can not control Al Gore
Gore 2008!!!!!!!!
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Cronopio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 07:32 PM
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52. Reality drives right-wingers insane.
Gore speaks for reality and benefits from doing so in the long run, totally confounding their self-serving "our slime rules the universe" theory.

Right-wingers can't do anything about reality because it's too big for them, so they attack the spokesman out of spite.

Too bad for them.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:45 PM
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53. it`s driving who ever runs "hillary is 44" nuts also...
http://www.hillaryis44.org/?p=286
Hillary Is 44 » Blog Archive » Hillary Clinton Al Gore Syndrome

http://www.hillaryis44.org/?p=282
Hillary Is 44 » Blog Archive » Al Gore’s Great Prize

"Krugman utterly failed in this latest column to tackle PINOs, Naderites, Big Blogs, and Big Media. He also failed to take on his fellow New York Times columnist Frank Rich. Recall Frank Rich’s recent column Is Hillary Clinton the New Old Al Gore?

http://www.hillaryis44.org/?p=286
Hillary Is 44 » Blog Archive » Hillary Clinton Al Gore Syndrome
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 11:51 PM
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56. kickin' it
"The Shrill One" ;-) nails it again, per usual.
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