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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 11:27 PM
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Al Gore and the peace prize
Personally, I was very pleased to learn that Gore won the Nobel Peace Prize. B/c I'm a big Gore fan, I naturally supported his win.

But at work today, I talked to 2 very liberal friends who actually expressed skepticism about him winning the prize. One even said, "If the panel had any balls, they'd have nominated Green Peace".

I'm not sure if this has been discussed here. And in no way am I bashing Gore. It just made me think a little. And the guy I talked to, an athiest, likes Jimmy Carter so much that he considered visiting his Church just to hear him talk.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 11:35 PM
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1. backlash, I think.
So many people have invested in the Second Coming of Al Gore, our saviour from neo-con fascism that the realization that he is not coming, not going to run is painfully disappointing.

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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 11:40 PM
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2. I concur.
After 7 years of Bush's swindle hanging over our heads, he's finally no longer the underdog.

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ruiner4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-14-07 11:44 PM
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3. I actually have a few questions...
and am a little weary of expressing them cause I dont want to cause some massive flame war, or catch any snarky ire...

and ill give the 'i love al gore and am very happy for him disclaimer'..

However.. I understand this is the peace prize, yes? Is the Nobel committees idea that his spearheading the climate change movement and "inconvenient truth" are ways to mitigate potential future resource mayhem and wars? If thats it then I suppose I answered my own question..

Im not trying to second quess a group of people who are alot smarter than I am.. I guess I just would like to understand the criteria that he accomplished in order to win it..
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johnnypneumatic Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 12:58 AM
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4. here is what climate change has to do with peace
http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/2007/press.html
The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2007 is to be shared, in two equal parts, between the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and Albert Arnold (Al) Gore Jr. for their efforts to build up and disseminate greater knowledge about man-made climate change, and to lay the foundations for the measures that are needed to counteract such change.

Al gets half the peace prize, the IPCC gets the other half. Here is the part that has to do with peace:

Indications of changes in the earth's future climate must be treated with the utmost seriousness, and with the precautionary principle uppermost in our minds. Extensive climate changes may alter and threaten the living conditions of much of mankind. They may induce large-scale migration and lead to greater competition for the earth's resources. Such changes will place particularly heavy burdens on the world's most vulnerable countries. There may be increased danger of violent conflicts and wars, within and between states.

So people who want peace have to plan ahead to prevent war, and to prevent the major probable causes of war.
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ruiner4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 01:06 AM
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5. Thank you...
thank you for taking the time to link that to me, i appreciate it...

ya answered my question.. im glad he was part of winning that...

:)
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 06:39 AM
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11. Thanks for posting this info, johnnypneumatic.
It's going to come in handy, and I really appreciate it! :hi:
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 01:51 AM
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6. If you go to Wiki (link below)
Edited on Mon Oct-15-07 01:51 AM by wlucinda
and scroll down to the Promoting environmental awareness heading you'll see a breakdown of his efforts. An Inconvienient Truth is only a part of what he has done. It's quite extensive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_gore

Also the GLOBE program link is informative
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GLOBE_program
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 02:21 AM
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7. please ask your "liberal" friend
whey they think male body parts are required for courage
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 03:14 AM
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8. I have never understand the concept of
balls = courage.

The 1st thing most young women learn, is if trouble, kick them in the balls.

If a woman could bring them to their knees so easily, how does that make balls courageous?

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 03:39 AM
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9. it is extreme sexist bullshit
even more despicable when a "liberal" expresses such crap - and I have seen it many times here on the DU, sometimes from WOMEN :puke:
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 05:21 AM
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10. considering that a mass murderer like Henry Kissinger won the peace prize
your and your freinds confusion of just what winning it means isn't unwarranted.
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