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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 07:30 AM
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Cancer Death Rates Dropping Fast
WASHINGTON (AP) - Good news on the cancer front: Death rates are dropping faster than ever, thanks to new progress against colorectal cancer.

A turning point came in 2002, scientists conclude Monday in the annual "Report to the Nation" on cancer. Between 2002 and 2004, death rates dropped by an average of 2.1 percent a year.

That may not sound like much, but between 1993 and 2001, deaths rates dropped on average 1.1 percent a year.

The big change was a two-pronged gain against colorectal cancer.
http://www.wtop.com/?nid=106&sid=1268043
Around here it seems like we are always hearing bad news about health and medicine so I thought it would be nice to post something nice, for once.
Oh and for those who want to whine that "Big Pharma is suppressing cancer cures" let me just say that since cancer DOES NOT have one root cause and is very complex the idea that there is ONE thing that is going to cure all cancers is highly unlikely . Personally I think better prevention and better treatments, making cancer not so big a killer is a VERY good thing...:toast: to all the people who work hard to fight this deadly set of diseases!
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 08:52 AM
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1. Big pharma does nothing to encourage alternative cures,
But thanks for the information just the same. That is good news for sure.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 08:56 AM
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2. How is it that this is more acceptable than "intelligent design"?
Really, we don't trust science?
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:08 AM
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5. I'm nor sure what you are getting at.
I am not against science. I am just aware that politics and backstabbing are
as embedded in medicine and science as any other field. Maybe even more so.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:13 AM
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9. most alternative medicine
is not based in sound scientific principle.
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:21 AM
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13. True, but we shouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater
or however the expression goes.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:14 AM
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10. Well, chemo just tries to kill the cancer before it kills all your healthy cells (and you!)
Edited on Mon Oct-15-07 09:37 AM by soothsayer
so to me, we still don't have cures for cancer. Science knows how to do three things to cancer: surgery, radiation, and chemo. None of those treat the underlying causes, which is prolly why approximately 84% of the patients who are treated with these methods have a repeat cancer of one kind or another within five years. Good to see the drop in death rates, but I'd love to see a healthier and more focused prevention/treatment/cure.



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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:07 AM
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4. Alternative "medicine is quackery.
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:10 AM
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6. Ok. Two-time Nobel Laurette Pauling was a quack. n/t
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:12 AM
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8. All that Vitamin C didn't stop him from dying of cancer
Sometimes scientists can be quacks outside of their specialties. I wouldn't take medical advice from a climate specialist on global warming, would you?
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:20 AM
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12. He died at 93 lol.
We should all be so fortunate.
By the way, he forty-year old theories about Vitamin c were validated two years ago.

http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=fbab2e56-d6c2-4238-8b39-e1f19ea7cf54
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:16 AM
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11. Sigh. Remember how long it took science to acknowledge vitamins?
Science is a real a-hole most of the time (and slowwwwwww! and they're proud of how slow they are, btw).
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 03:07 PM
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14. Right, and all the megadoses of vitamins the quacks promote are harmless?
:sarcasm:

Science is SUPPOSED to be slow because it's supposed to be careful, especially when it come to the things we eat.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:11 AM
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7. Pharmaceutical companies
go with things that have shown scientific potential. Most "alternatives" have not (and yes there have been plenty of studies that show which herbs and alternative treatments are effective- and some of these altie "methods" are toxic too- ie laetrile which contains CYANIDE).
Remember that aspirin/salicylic acid is a derivative of willow bark. Many "drugs" are derived from the most active ingredient found in certain natural plants-purified and concentrated...
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:01 AM
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3. Removing TCE from water might help too.
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CGowen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 03:14 PM
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15. Why do they have this picture and don't talk about it?
Edited on Mon Oct-15-07 03:19 PM by CGowen




What is it, genetics? Nutrition? Or other factors?


Only this paragraph is mentioning it


The report includes a special focus on cancer among American Indians and Alaskan natives. Overall, cancer incidence is lower among those populations than among white Americans, except for cancers of the stomach, liver, kidney, gallbladder and cervix.

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